Unibet Affiliates - Predatory Terms

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    Guard Dog

    Guard Dog Guard Dog Staff Member

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    Unibet - Unibet Affiliate Site

    [badterm]MINIMUM PLAYER RULE[/badterm]
    [newterm][newtermtitle]Minimum Player Rule[/newtermtitle]
    Unibet has the right to set limits for a minimum level of activity on affiliate accounts. Such minimum activity will be continuously reviewed and Unibet reserves the right to terminate any agreement not reaching the limit. Such limit shall reflect the intention of avoiding accounts where the revenue does not cover Unibet’s internal costs for maintaining the account and the payout procedure. In such an eventuality, the provision of Clause 12(d) shall apply mutatis mutandis. [/newterm]



    [goodterm] SPAM AGREEMENT[/goodterm]


    [newterm][newtermtitle] Spam Terms [/newtermtitle]
    use any form of spam (including search engine spamming or spamdexing) or unsolicited mail in its attempts to refer New Depositors to the Unibet Site.
    If Unibet determines, in its sole discretion, that the Affiliate has engaged in any of the foregoing activities, it may (without limiting any other rights or remedies available to it) withhold any monies otherwise payable to the Affiliate under this Agreement and/or terminate this Agreement. [/newterm]


    [goodterm] COMMISSIONS[/goodterm]


    [newterm][newtermtitle] Payment Date [/newtermtitle]
    For the avoidance of doubt, all payments shall be made inclusive of VAT, if applicable.
    h) Subject to clause 6 (c) at the end of a calendar month, the Affiliate may raise an invoice for the relevant Revenue Share payable by Unibet to the Affiliate, which shall be paid within 30 days of receipt by Unibet of such invoice. [/newterm]


    [newterm][newtermtitle] Chargeback Policy [/newtermtitle] “Net Profit” means the total sum of the following six (6) components:
    (i) on sportsbook activities, all gross monies received by us in respect of all settled bets made by New Depositors after deducting; (i) monies paid out to New Depositors as winnings; (ii) monies paid in the form of betting duties or taxes (or reasonable provisions in respect thereof) (iii) bad debts; (iv) fraud; (v) returned stakes; (vi) transactions which are reversed by instruction from the card-holder's bank (commonly referred to as charge-backs); and (vii) voids and bet/deposit bonuses.
    (ii) on casino activities, the value of opening balance with the addition of funds transferred in less (i) funds transferred out (ii) closing balance (iii) credits made to users (iv) licensing fees (v) charge-backs (vi) bad debts and (vii) fraud.
    (iii) on poker activity, the gross rake less (i) licensing fees, (ii) poker chips bonus, (iii) charge-backs, (iv) bad debts and (v) fraud.
    (iii) on games activity, the gross stake, less (i) voids, (ii) returns (iii) betting duty, (iv) licensing fees, (v) credits made to users, (vi) bonuses (vii) charge-backs, (viii) bad debts and (ix) fraud.[/newterm]


    [newterm][newtermtitle] Commissions Structure [/newtermtitle]
    The Affiliate in the Unibet Affiliate Network shall be entitled to receive, on a monthly basis, a 30 % “commission” of Net Profit (“Commission”). [/newterm]

    [newterm][newtermtitle] Sub-Affiliate Revenue Sharing [/newtermtitle]
    None Found [/newterm]


    [newterm][newtermtitle] Minimum Payment [/newtermtitle]
    If a Revenue Share does not exceed 5.000 GBP, Unibet shall be entitled to withhold and carry forward such sum until the end of the first calendar month in which the Revenue Share (including such carried forward sum) exceeds 5.000 GBP, at which time the Affiliate shall be entitled to raise an invoice in accordance with Clause 6 (h).[/newterm]


    [warning]NO NEGATIVE CARRYOVER INFORMATION FOUND[/warning]
    [newterm][newtermtitle] Negative Carryover [/newtermtitle]
    None Found[/newterm]

    [goodterm]TERMINATION[/goodterm]


    [newterm][newtermtitle] Termination [/newtermtitle]
    Affiliate shall be entitled to receive the Commission for each New Depositor for a lifetime value from the date of the first deposit made by the New Depositors, except in the event of a termination of the Agreement. In the event of the termination of the Agreement, the payment of the Commission shall end after a period of 6 months following the date of the effective termination of the Agreement.[/newterm]
     
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    Guard Dog

    Guard Dog Guard Dog Staff Member

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    This is a strange one.....

    We contacted Sebastian Gorecki, initially, on 9/17/2006 and received a reply that he was interested in hearing our issues with Unibet's Terms and Conditions on 9/18/2006.

    We followed up with the issues list several times after that and have not received a response. They have had enough time to respond, so we must mark them as predatory due to the implementation of the MINIMUM PLAYER RULE.

    Thank You.
     
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    johnski

    johnski Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    I am presently an affiliate with Unibet and I'm still awaiting commission for January. I have e-mailed them on numerous occasions and keep getting the reply that they are sorry there is a delay and it will be paid shortly. The last 2 e-mails I have sent them have not been acknowledged at all.

    Anyone else having the same problems?
     
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    Guard Dog

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    That is one of the main reasons we have them marked as predatory. Besides their 'Minimum Player Rule', they do not acknowledge emails.

    Very poor affiliate program, IMO.
     
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    aksana

    aksana Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    I talked to Stephen Banks, he asked me to promote Unibet through IncomeAccess, but I didn't agree with Unibet's T&Cs, then he told me that Unibet changed its T&Cs for me (of course, I told him, that it was not for me, it was for all affiliates :) ).

    Unibet removed a Minimum Player Rule, and also changed the minimum payment from GBP5000 to GBP50.

    Maybe there were other changes but their T&Cs seem good.
     
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    Guard Dog

    Guard Dog Guard Dog Staff Member

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    Hey Aksana,

    Thanks for that! I checked the Terms Alert System this morning and noticed the change. When was the change made? I'm surprised I got it over the weekend. We tried very hard to get this change implemented, but were met with silence. I'm very happy you were able to get this change done!

    We will re-review their entire terms again and, if applicable, certify their program.

    Thank you!
     
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    aksana

    aksana Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    He sent me the following email on May,8th
    Btw, who are already an affiliate of Unibet? I don't understand how to work with them directly. I respect IncomeAccess but don't want to promote Unibet through a 3d party program. I see Unibet affiliate program is still under construction.
     
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    Thanks for this. They should be thanking you too because I was a heartbeat away from dropping this program.

    Why is it still on the predatory list?
     
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    hogar

    hogar Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Hi!

    I just found out about this site, and it made me a little worry, because I'm an affiliate with Unibet. But I checked their T&C and found no minimum player rule.
    Can anyone tell me why they are predatory or is it OK to promote them.
    Did anyone have problems with them?
     
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    bonustreak

    bonustreak Administrator Staff Member

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    We are in talks right now with them and yes they do have a min player rule btw but that will be changing very soon!
     
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    hogar

    hogar Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    I hope they'll change it. I would hate to leave them because they are probably the best gaming site for people from my country.
     
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    any news on the this ?

    have several sites to sign up with them, but the T&C dont seem to have changed. like their product but under this condition not.

    are there any news if and when they will change that ?

    r:)
     
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    bonustreak

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    Still have not been notified of the change they agreed to make after my last meeting with them way way back in London(Jan). Then I get this mail today and I am thinking to myself why can't they see the term they have in there is what is holding them back they don't need a survey to figure that much out!! Maybe if enough affiliates email them and suggest this change they will do so!

    <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=660 align=center border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD align=middle bgColor=#ffffff><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=600 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Dear Affiliate,

    We are looking to improve our affiliate program at Unibet and we would appreciate your feedback. Please participate in the survey and let us know how we can improve our collaboration and become more effective!

    The survey will take approximately 5 minutes to complete and all your answers are confidential.
    Click here to start the survey.


    We thank you in advance for your cooperation. All your comments and suggestions will be taken into consideration.

    You will have until the 21st of May to answer the Survey.



    </TD></TR><TR><TD align=left><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=600 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top width=90></TD><TD width=20></TD><TD vAlign=top align=left width=490></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=left height=35>Faithfully,
    </TD></TR><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=600 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=bottom align=left width=550>[​IMG]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]email: unibetpartners@unibet.com[/FONT]

    </TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=middle width=50></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>​
     
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    abscident

    abscident Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    I really don't understand why some affiliate programs try to keep this kind of stupid terms and pretend they don't understand it is predatory.

    It is bad reputation and nothing else.
     
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    bonustreak

    bonustreak Administrator Staff Member

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    What is worse is that other affiliate programs see this as something that is acceptable and follow suit!
     
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    baldidiot

    baldidiot Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Has this term been removed now? I scanned the T&C's and couldn't find any mention :confused:
     
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    bonustreak

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    I was not informed of that being removed but I can re-read the terms really fast and get back to you.
     
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    baldidiot

    baldidiot Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Cools, thanks :)
     
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    bonustreak

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    Seems like they have updated the terms and added in the no negative carry over, I do not see the min player rule either so what I think what needs to happen is we totally re -review the terms to be voted on again by the team.
    Also we were not alerted to the changes because they have a totally different URL with the new terms now.
     
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    I think they already had no negative carry over, the problem was that negative sport or casino destroyed poker ernings
     

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