WikiWins Seeks Affiliates

[Vivabonus]

@wikiwins Thanks for your response! I did not have any intension to trigger this type of discussion here. I already wrote to affiliates(at)wikiaffiliates.com on 24.07. but so far did here back. Thus, posted my question here. Anyways, let's continue our discussion separately via mail and thanks in advance for contacting me !

 

[Biti]

I do not agree with playing immediately the racism card here.

Yes, many of the technology comes from TLV and many of the bigger players are having its origin there. But last years also many poor and dodgy operators come from TLV, like Aff Power/GameTech/GameScale or whatever might be their name, Winner, BetFashion and all those binary brands.

Concluding that has nothing to do with racism.

 

[casinonewbie]

Concluding that has nothing to do with racism

Exactly my thoughts, wikiwins is just playing the "race card" it's just a bullshit smoke screen. Israel is just a great place to base yourself to either rip off players and/or affiliates or do other cyber crimes.

Oh....Lets not forget Gery Shalon, Joshua Aaron and Ziv Orenstein from Affactive and Revenuejet, just love those olden days https://calvinayre.com/2017/06/28/b...e-gambling-exec-pay-403m-resolve-fed-charges/

 

[DaftDog]

So AussieDave points out that there are many dodgy online casinos operating out of Israel and you flash the race-card? AussieDave is avaluable member of this forum and I do not believe him to be a racist.

 

[AussieDave]

@wikiwins - the reason I added the following is because I was pretty sure you'd call me a racist.

my comments are NOT fueled by anti semitism.

Furthermore, Rabbi Jill Jacobs is the Executive Director of T'ruah (a Jewish Organisation) dedicated to protecting human rights in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories, states, "I know it's possible to criticize Israel without veering into anti-Semitism. I do it every day."

Or are you going to call a Rabbi anti-Semitic (errr racist) because you don't agree with his factual criticism

 

[bonustreak]

I did not see any racial slurs made. I think he suggested that the company could be from Isreal and to be careful, new affiliates should consider the terms carefully before signing up with the program. Sorry if you feel as if I missed any racial slurs, I have read the post several times and trying to figure out where you were personally attacked.

I agree it is not fair to judge a company based on location, but unfortunately, it is a fact that some very shady operations have come from Isreal. This is no different from a casino bonus banning players living in known bonus abusing countries.

 

[wikiwins]

You guys seem to miss the point here together, but it's obvious you're going to come to the defense of your colleagues - which is fine. I wrote that AussieDave's comments have no place in this post - and I stick by that comment for these reasons.

First of all WikiWins is not an Israeli company, nor do we have offices in Israel, so let's get that straight. Secondly, what you affiliate gurus seem to miss (or dismiss) either purposefully or by ignorance (and by ignorance I mean no disrespect) is fact that, had the discussion topic been about dishonest (or dodgy) gaming companies, then maybe @AussieDave's comments wouldn't be out of place. And Daftdog , had AussieDave wanted to have a discussion about "dodgy casinos "then why not open a new thread - certainly there are dodgy casinos out of eastern Europe as well, right - and what about all those casino that take US Players, too. Nonetheless, the fact that he totally misinterpreted the member's comment, jumped altogether to a different topic by prejudging WikiWins and then went on to make a comment which was so far off base. You got to wonder where the hell he pulled that out of? I didn't call AussieDave a "racist", I said his remarks have racist implications. By going off topic and making an assumption about this company and making a direct connection to Israel with negative generalizations and connotations would cause most reasonable people to wonder what the hell he was thinking about. But unfortunately, instead of discussing the members issue we digressed into this one. Good day.

 

[xecutable]

Hello Michael,

"We may, at any time for any reason whatsoever, at our sole discretion, modify any portion of this Agreement, by posting a new version of this Agreement on the Website. Whilst We will endeavor to advise You when any such changes to this Agreement are made, it remains Your sole responsibility to periodically and regularly check this Agreement, and the version number hereof , to take account of such changes. Modifications may include, but are not necessarily limited to, changes to Commission calculation and payment processes."

Does this mean that if I sign up today and accept the terms, tomorrow they can be changed retroactively for me? I see there's NCO as well.

Number of *qualifying players: 1 to 9 players 25%, 10 to 39 players - 35%, 40 to 99 players - 40% and 100+ 50%
*Tiers are based on new acquisitions within the month.

Shouldn't the terms be 0-9 players, or if not, what happens if I have failed to get a new player for a given month? Would my commission be 25%, or something different.

May I ask what's your primary target country/ies? I see USA and UK banned, nearly half of Europe too.

 

[AussieDave]

AGD will review your terms and conditions until then I would consider this program not trustworthy.

I wrote that AussieDave's comments have no place in this post - and I stick by that comment for these reasons.

Your reasons are all moot points. FYI, no program is permitted to recruit affiliates at AGD without being certified/approved. Because your program is not AGD certified, this thread should not exist.

This is my last comment on this thread...

 

[wikiwins]

Your reasons are all moot points. FYI, no program is permitted to recruit affiliates at AGD without being certified/approved. Because your program is not AGD certified, this thread should not exist.

This is my last comment on this thread...

Again another unrelated comment and off subject and a lame attempt on your part to divert attention from yourself. And where do you see I'm trying to recruit anyone here? @xecutable has asked a question and you interject putting blame on me for recruiting affiliates. @xecutable feel free to contact me via our affiliate website to discuss and I'll fill you in and answer your questions. Unfortunately, @AussieDave and we have you to thank, we've been talking about how your 'moot' post comments have no relevance and if any comment shouldn't exist on this thread, it is yours. In fact your latest comment is evidence of that. I suggest you stop chiming in with unrelated and unrelated comments, because it is your comments that are infecting this thread most. Your negativity is so unfortunate and disgusting and you don't represent this forum very well, I don't care how long you've been here. And that it my last word for any of your misplaced and childish like comments.

 

[Webzcas]

I joined this forum not long ago in order to understand better the affiliate side of things as a casino operator, but this forum has too many smart ass members disguising themselves as professional affiliate gurus and it's unfortunate that you caused me to have to answer you this way, because I don't know you personally @AussieDave , but feel I must.

@AussieDave before jumping in on a thread looking for any opportunity to interject your awesomeness as a member of this community, did you even take the time to read what @Vivabonus is asking before making such uninformed generalizations of gaming companies that may have began from that region (Israel) - and just so you know most of the best gaming companies and technology come from there. Whoa how you jumped from misreading a post from an a new affiliate member to making racists remarks - where the hell did that come from? Nevertheless, you didn't even read what @Vivabonus was asking? He is an affiliate not a player! Seems your knee-jerk responses piggybacking on other member's threads just for the sake of making some inane and uneducated comments is a habit-- I've encoutnered this before reading the crap you spew here in the capacity as a professional. More importantly, do you really think by trying to end your comment with "BTW, my comments are NOT fueled by anti semitism" , changes your generalization about Israelis (jews) or companies. Really?! what are they fueled by @AussieDave? I expect you to come back and with some lame response to my comment to offset somehow your insensitive comment, but you let the cat out of the bag - you're comments have implications of xenophobia and racism, and have no place in any forum, and I'm surprised that AGD did not delete it?

Back to @Vivabonus's question , which unfortunately for some reason you felt you needed to address the issue of 127.00 euros in this forum. Nevertheless we are here, and if for whatever reason you did not get paid, there may (or may not be) a valid reason why but I promise I will provide you an answer. We don't intentionally not pay our affiliates which we value. I will get back to you on the email we have on record when you signed up. Thanks for bringing it to my attention, but next time please do so via email.

Call me what you want, I do not care. But I would just to like to point out, that whilst a lot of good for the industry comes from Israel. Most of the crap, such as hacked websites, negative seo, pirated games, shitty affiliate programs etc etc all hails from Israel. Hence why Israel is one of a few countries I block from my sites.

 

[The Stone]

@wikiwins I haven't made my mind up yet.I'll take my time to decide if I want to promote you though as I've been stung by Israeli and UK affiliate networks

 

[wikiwins]

@The Stone , thanks for keeping the door open , if even just slightly.

@Webzcas , your entitled to your opinion and yes, had this thread been solely about fraud emanating from there , no doubt your comments have validity, IMO.

 

[natshalovesfs]

Well alright. one of my cuzn is a bit freaky about casino stuff. Will tell him about wikiwins

 

[wikiwins]

@natshalovesfs - Thank you..

 

[jopaa]

Because your program is not AGD certified, this thread should not exist.

It seems that you're wrong here. The old AGD was the place where no affiliate program could open new threads like this one before being certified.
These days I see lots of similar threads ... unfortunately.

When Andy was running AGD I could sign up to a program just by seeing their banner on the forums without thinking that the program can be a "not recommended" one.
These days I will spend a day to make my research, read the terms and conditions at least a couple of times and even chat with other affiliates and ask questions about the program I want to sign up to.

 

[AussieDave]

It seems that you're wrong here. The old AGD was the place where no affiliate program could open new threads like this one before being certified.

No I'm not wrong... Nothing has changed per se. As bonustreak's post states:

AGD will review your terms and conditions until then I would consider this program not trustworthy.

There's no way of stopping a program from signing up to AGD, and then for them to commence a thread like this one. Same goes for a "spammer", or anyone with a hidden agenda/ulterior motives.

Mods/Admin do the best they can to jump on content that's not allowed, quickly. But sometimes things just slip thru the cracks. Even when Andy ran the place, the same issues were prevalent.

When I'm on and I see stuff that's inappropriate, then I'll Mod it, if need be. The same goes for other Mod's and Admin here too.

AGD members can also help, by using the "report" link displayed in the bottom left of every post.

If you see something that doesn't look right, or shouldn't be on the forum, then report it. That makes everyone's job easier.

Taking proactive actions like this, helps keep the AGD forum threads/posts bona fide for all

 

[BetReels]

I don't see a "report" button/link anywhere.

 

[KasinoKing]

I don't see a "report" button/link anywhere.

You don't see this link below each post?

 

[xecutable]

Maybe it's the mobile version in which case you have a burger menu on the bottom left.