Change of terms - new quotas

[Sidney]

My first post here. Hi.

Just got an email from Sky - AffiliateHub - about new NDP quotas being enforced. Less than 6 new depositors per month and you go to 5%.

 

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[KasinoKing]

Oh great - stabbed in the back AGAIN!!!

KK

 

[Engineer]

This is retroactive on the entire player base, too. What BULLSHIT!

 

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[Guard Dog]

Wow. complete crap by these guys Hopefully Sarah or Pete can come in and clear things up soon - both were notified of this post!

 

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[RyanWeb]

I just paid for a few reviews on them to add to my UK sites.. If that's the case I won't start promoting them now..

 

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[Guard Dog]

FYI - apparently Sarah and Pete are not getting emails Both email addresses bounch now Anyone have a contact?

 

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[jopaa]

Less than 6 new depositors per month and you go to 5%.

This is worst than AFFUTD's "1 minimum depositing player or you only get 5%"

 

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[TheGooner]

FYI - apparently Sarah and Pete are not getting emails Both email addresses bounch now Anyone have a contact?

This is the email that they want to use for "discussion" ... affiliatehub@bskyb.com (spammers - please feel free to harvest and sent viagra emails to it).

 

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[KasinoKing]

Just looked at my stats for the last 12 months:
Average Sign-Ups per Month: 7
Average New Depositors per Month: 0.5
Total Deposits for the Year: £41,000
Casino Net Revenue for Year: £11,700

So I have absolutely NO chance of meeting their quota - and that's how much they value £41K in deposits...?

KK

 

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[CaseyM]

Sadly this doesn't surprise me

 

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A reminder is sent to all affiliate managers.

 

[gamingaffiliatesguide]

Updated Gaffg review of Affiliate Hub to warn affiliates of the 5% commission reduction.

 

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[LandofOz]

They never converted for me. I removed their listings several months ago.

 

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[Roosh]

This is a huge shame. I thought affiliatehub were a decent program until this.

I have read the email and it seems to say that the point of this change is to encourage affiliates to get more players and reward them for this. Not to penalise existing players.

However I'm pretty sure the vast majority of affiliates are not hitting over 5 players a month. For me Sky products convert to a depositing player at about 1 in 200 to targetted traffic.

So to meet the quota you need around 1000 clicks a month. As many affiliates manage multiple programs this only seems possible if you are a super affiliate or sky is your top program.

I can't help but feeling that rather than encourage affiliates to get more players, this will simply be a mass exodus of small/medium affiliates. I doubt super affiliates will warm to this either, I mean what's to stop another higher quota being applied? Or their commission being reduced?

For a company like Sky this is strange, they are usually the sort of company who invests heavily in its staff and products and has long term strategies. This seems like effectively stealing from existing affiliates while masquerading as trying to improve affiliate performance all to simply make a fast buck.

I'm not even sure why they are going to the Berlin Affiliate Conference. Who in their right mind would promote a company with these quotas? I don't envy the affiliate executives turning up at that conference.

With sky owning major sporting portals like oddschecker and sportinglife and with sky television I doubt they even need affiliates. This move certainly seems like a complete lack of respect for the affiliate community. Which let's not forget are just normal people with families, bills to pay etc who simply want to do an honest job for a company on the terms they agreed to when they signed up.

 

[ScottB]

Is this not reason enough to instantly rogue this program ??

I imagine they have just screwed over around 90%+ of their affiliates.
Totally unethical behaviour.

With this move, it seems pretty obvious they are winding down and will close the Sky affiliate program in the near future. They don't really need affiliates.

As Roosh says above, why would larger affiliates stick around ?
They are also likely to lose all their players at some point in the future.
Better to take the hit now, than lose even more later.

 

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[KasinoKing]

Rogued at Casinomeister today: http://www.casinomeister.com/rogue/affiliatehub.php

Ironic that just a few days before this happened I was communicating with Matt Price and he was saying how keen they were to be Accredited at CM again! (They lost this status in September - purely due to not having an active rep on the forum).

To really rub slat in the wounds, Affy Hub sent out this e-mail to their affiliates just yesterday:

Why aren't you in Sky Vegas?

From the start of October 2015 - if you haven't seen it already - Sky Vegas is forging ahead with its ambition to become the UK’s market-leading online casino with our new rock 'n' roll Vegas advertising campaign, designed to grab players' attention in this increasingly crowded marketplace.

Our new Sky Vegas campaign accompanies our new website redesign, which in turn facilitates more sophisticated and user-friendly promotions and delivers a brand new visual identity.

Our new ads are completely different from our competitors’ and give us a very distinct character, with which players can better identify. You'll note the humour and swagger that all convey the clear message that; "if you’re not playing casino at Sky Vegas then you’re missing out.”

The revamped Vegas platform and advertising campaign will be boosted by a nine-week promotion this autumn, giving your players the chance to win a share of daily jackpots, and a free-to-enter competition to win £24,000 to spend in 24 hours in Las Vegas.

To grab your new banners simply rock on over to the Affiliate Hub

My reply?​

"Fuck off you thieving bastards!"

KK

 

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[Roulette Zeitung]

Quotas are nothing but mental blackmailing.
You have to fear about the money all the time.
Programs, who are using such prehistoric terms, are not respectful toward small webmaster.
They say "Yes", but this is a lie.
Quotas are hanging like a Sword of Damocles over the small webmaster, and this is no nice cooperation.

Leopold

 

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[bobby sand]

That's pretty shocking, don't know how they expect to stay competitive if that's their deal. Could imagine they'll quite quickly change tact once they see the impact!

 

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