You gotta be kidding me...

[lots0]

Would anyone from the 400 group or Rival care to explain this...


May, 2010
SummaryTotal Direct Commission: 73.95
Total Referral Commission: 0.00
Progressive carryover 2010-04: -33.83
Grand Total Commission: 40.12


Now I quit promoting these guys several months ago, so these figures are just from one existingt account.

What about this Progressive Carry Over?

Anyone care to explain?
Because it sure looks to me like the 400 group is stealing a few pennys from me...

 

[abscident]

That's weird. I know they don't carry over negative balances, so i guess you should address this directly to them. I'm sure you will get this sorted out.

 

[KasinoKing]

What about this Progressive Carry Over?

Anyone care to explain?

Where've you been the last 3 months - under a rock?

https:// www. affiliateguarddog. com/forums/rival-programs-progressive-good-bad-list-t2401.html

KK

 

[slotplayer]

Anyone picking up new players with this group?

 

[Guard Dog]

I haven't picked up a new player since May with this group. Picked up a ton who haven't deposited, but no depositers. 40% of my depositers were banned, though, as usual - no surprise there.

Everyone has different stats, but those are mine. My last real conversion worth anything was January with this group.

 

[KasinoKing]

Anyone picking up new players with this group?

This is Vegas is one of the biggest wastes of web space ever!
Last player registration there was May 2009!

The others are not much better. Last 6-months:
Da Vinci; 7 sign-ups - none of them deposited.
Cocoa; 10 sign-ups - none of them deposited.
Paradise8; 1 sign-up - they didn't deposit.

Great....

KK

 

[slotplayer]

I guess feb 7th was my last new depositing player.

Not seeing any growth in this industry anymore.

 

[tryme1]

We're in that period right now where, for the US facing part of the industry, it's not looking good. But, to say there's no growth, is just wrong. I have more to add but this maybe should be spun off into a new thread.

 

[WCD Admin]

RIVAL UP-CLOSE AND PERSONAL:

2 new players this year from 400affs: one this month and one in January but my revenue was still more than double what we got from:

Slots of Fortune, who got twice the traffic, landed 8x the players but still made less than 1/2 the revenue.

Pantasia was worse - got more traffic than Slots of Fortune but only earned 1/4th of 400affs!

Of course that's nothing compared to Lion Slots who got the most traffic of all my Rivals (outside of Superior) and managed to make me the least revenue.

With those programs, the more traffic I sent, the less I made! Superior Casino has been the lone exception for me.

Superior Share got less than 1/2 the total traffic of all my Rival programs put together but made me more than double the other programs put together.(1/2 as much traffic, 2x more money)

I made good money back when Rakesh was around with Lion Slots - no Rakesh, no money. So it goes to stand that how the W.L. is operated and who owns it has a direct effect on the outcome.

Slot-O-Cash did okay for us, too. Non-white label, and if it wasn't for me including them in my above math it would have made the other casinos look a LOT worse. Plus they have a great A.M.



HOW RIVAL COMPARES TO THE REST OF THE BRANDS (FOR ME)

My top Rival program got a little less than 1/2 the traffic of my top VT program - but my top VT program made me FIVE TIMES the amount of my top Rival program.

But then I'd have to point out that my top MGS program made me nearly 2/3rds of the revenue I got from my top VT program and they did it on a fraction (1/6th the traffic.)

And then there is RTG - my top RTG program got about 20% MORE traffic than my top VT program and earned me only 1/5th the revenue.

----Hard to follow?

1. Give MGS a boost if you have non-USA traffic too
2. Vegas Tech kicks Rival in the nuts and RTG, too, for that matter (love'm or hate'm)
3. I'd rather promote a good Rival than any RTG that I have listed right now.
4. Superior casino is the best Rival in my book.

been burned to many times by Playtech... who knows though... too much burning on one end of the boat, I may run back to the other side to see if its any less hot. Playtech used to be my top earner. This industry is best suited for people who can keep up with such mess. My income would probably quadruple if I could track and make changes fast enough.

 

[Guard Dog]

That was phenomenal and very interesting information!

I agree that Superior appears to be one of the better Rivals. I have recently placed them into a prime position on one of my Rival websites and converted near-immediately. I would like to see even higher conversions - but that is more Rival's fault (IMO) than any particular casino.

Superior also has one of the best AM's among the Rival group.

 

[WCD Admin]

Thanks I had a good time writing it. Was informative to me, too. Now I just need to go follow my own advice.

 

[inspiration]

90%-95% collapse since March 2010.

Still seeing players signup but do not deposit or we do not see this.....very fishy IMO.

Either :

-Rivals have the worst processors in the industry.
-Rivals have found a way to...........
-Always Vegas retagged players what about the rest ?
-Flash links carry different cookie codes.
-Players do not like them because of bad reputation.
-One or more of these above.

Weird:
-They seem to survive these harsh times with regard to all above and webmasters lowering exposure.
-No affiliate manager bothers to clarify why players do not deposit and play.
-Tradition Casino has the win palace download.

Watch out :
-Bonne Chance took over a lot of white labels and will take more : this questionable company has acquired lot of power.

 

[inspiration]

Oh and one thing :

Do not bother to audit the casinos with 50 bucks IYKWIM.

 

[bb1webs]

I think they have yet to feel the full force of a loss in confidence but I think that will happen soon enough.

I know i have sat and sat and sat on the fence about them. And admittedly I did make/get paid a little money from Pantatsia, and do every month, but when I start reading players complaining ... I'm much quicker to act than if the only person standing to get shafted is myself.

 

[bonustreak]

If it was me I would change this thread title to get the thread more focus from affiliates and get it in the serps