Negative feedback on the experience of working with Ultra Partners

Jerome-UltraPartners

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@Vakuz, your accusations are not in place, your BIG winner is actually very small, and Yes, in a non active account it affects your commission, there is nothing we can do about this.
 

Vakuz

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@Vakuz, your accusations are not in place, your BIG winner is actually very small, and Yes, in a non active account it affects your commission, there is nothing we can do about this.

Jerome!​

Your excuses for manipulation are not in place. Your manager Jean constantly lies in correspondence. You are already blacklisted in some community webmasters. Good luck!
 

Laila Fidelen

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Hi there, I’m here to confirm what you say. I worked with Jean for years, and they are serious thieves. I caught them several times hiding from me and removing me from the Cpa without reason and when I come back to ask them the reason they always come up with some stupid excuses. I have a YouTube channel and I play for players against half. I often have access to everything, deposit email and everything. My client makes the deposit, I can even see it by accessing his account. The registration still appears but not the deposit, so unpaid. Imagine with me about 10 players coming to me to play for them (at roulette), only 2 3 appear in the account. You thieves, nothing else.

At the end I had two players. The second I saw the cpa with my own eyes and an hour later she disappeared. I ask Jean how it is done he tells me, no there is only one Cpa, a few minutes later the second Cpa appears again.

When I told him, that given what I’ve just seen, I won’t send you any more players, he blocked my account and he blocked my payment so they supposedly found fraud, and they’re checking it out. As you can guess, it comes back to me saying that the second deposit is fraud, player connected by proxy (excuses shit) not to pay €150.

Now he answers me more by email, he blocked my account, blocked me on Skype and they refuse to pay me even the first Cpa.

Stay away from these unscrupulous thieves, I will blow them and the casinos. This message is only the beginning of their end.

(I'm not the alone to see them cheating I have others friend webmasters and they all stopped collaboring with the thieves of Ultrapartners, so stay away it's advice for you).

Fr Version :

Je suis là pour confirmer ce que vous dites. J'ai travaillé avec Jean pendant des années et ils sont graves des voleurs. Je les ai chopé plusieurs fois à me cacher et me supprimer des Cpa sans raison et quand je reviens leur demander la raison ils me sortent toujours des excuses à la con. J'ai une chaine Youtube et je joue pour les joueurs contre la moitié. J'ai souvent accès à tout, le dépot l'email et tout. Mon client fait le dépôt, je peux même le voir en accédant à son compte. L'inscription apparait toujours mais pas le dépôt, donc impayé. Imaginez avec moi sur 10 joueurs qui vient vers moi pour que je joue pour eux (à la roulette), seul 2 3 apparaissent dans le compte. Bandes de voleurs, rien d'autre.

à la fin, j'avais deux joueurs. Le deuxième j'ai vu la cpa avec mes propres yeux et une heure plus tard elle a disparu. Je demande à Jean comment ça se fait il me dit, non il n'y a qu'une seule Cpa, quelques minutes plus tard la deuxième Cpa apparait à nouveau.

Quand je lui ai dit, que vu ce que je viens de voir je ne vous enverrai plus de joueurs il m'a bloqué le compte et il a bloqué mon paiement aussi soi-disant ils ont trouvé de la fraude et ils vérifie ça. Comme vous pouvez deviner, il revient vers moi en disant que le deuxième dépôt, c'est de la fraude, joueur connecté par proxy (excuses de merde) pour ne pas payer 150 €.

Maintenant, il me répond plus par mail, il m'a bloqué le compte, bloqué sur Skype et ils refusent de me payer même la première Cpa.

Restez loin de ces voleurs sans scrupules, moi je vais les exploser eux et les casinos. Ce message n'est que le début de leur fin.

D'ailleurs je ne suis pas le seul à avoir remarqué de la tricherie chez Ultrapartners, J'ai des amis webmasters et ils confirment tous que beaucoup de chose inhabituels se passent et ils ont tous cesser de collaborer avec ces voleurs malhonnêtes).

Moi en tous cas je ne vais pas le lâcher et je vais leur faire payer le prix cher.
 

Laila Fidelen

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@Vakuz, your accusations are not in place, your BIG winner is actually very small, and Yes, in a non active account it affects your commission, there is nothing we can do about this.
You are just thieves of the shit, I know you more than anyone here. More than two years I said you more than 20 times stop cheating, but you are big thieves and can't be serious. I will take care of your case. I'm your men, you will see. The end of your reputation it's with me, and you are already blacklisted in some forums.
 

Laila Fidelen

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Jerome!​

Your excuses for manipulation are not in place. Your manager Jean constantly lies in correspondence. You are already blacklisted in some community webmasters. Good luck!

Fitters, thieves and cheaters, I confirm. They stole from me several times and I warned them several times and asked them to stop, but the thieves remain thieves, there is nothing to do.
 

Laila Fidelen

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Ultrapartners - Super Player comes and takes your earnings!
Ultrapartners (brands: VegasPlus, Uniquecasino, Machance)

If the Net Gaming is more than 3000, a Super Player comes and takes your earnings.

Super Player! Always wins! Always plays without deposits! Always plays at the end of the month! Always plays only after other players win! Never wins more than your earnings! Registered on March 31, 2021 and immediately won without a deposit of 2300!

We informed the manager that the statistics are very strange. We talked about a strange Super Player who always wins at the end of the month without deposits. Now the Super Player has become more careful. Now he takes your earnings not at the end of the month, but when other players win. Previously, a Super Player was like a human, now he looks like an automatic bot.

We showed the manager Jean these statistics. The manager couldn't answer anything.


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Ultrapartners are thieves and have to be black listed and not certified affiliation.
 

Laila Fidelen

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Ultrapartners - Super Player comes and takes your earnings!
Ultrapartners (brands: VegasPlus, Uniquecasino, Machance)

If the Net Gaming is more than 3000, a Super Player comes and takes your earnings.

Super Player! Always wins! Always plays without deposits! Always plays at the end of the month! Always plays only after other players win! Never wins more than your earnings! Registered on March 31, 2021 and immediately won without a deposit of 2300!

We informed the manager that the statistics are very strange. We talked about a strange Super Player who always wins at the end of the month without deposits. Now the Super Player has become more careful. Now he takes your earnings not at the end of the month, but when other players win. Previously, a Super Player was like a human, now he looks like an automatic bot.

We showed the manager Jean these statistics. The manager couldn't answer anything.


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It was the same for me I said them this many times, no deposits but withdrawals and big wins and always at the end of the month. Band of thieves those Ultrathieves not ultrapartners.
 

Jetman

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Completely agree with Vakuz and others. I had exactly the same happen to me. Avoid this program at all costs.
 

AussieDave

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@bonustreak - It's not only a couple of new members voicing theft allegations BUT also respected long time AGD members too. both here and on this thread also.


Maybe this can be raised with the certification team.

If these allegations are true, then surely a program acting like this, should be kicked to the Doghouse...
 

MissExposé

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Update on Laila Fidelens' complaint, specifics that Ultra Partners representatives have sent us, prove that this affiliate breached the terms of the initial agreement they had.
 

Tupee

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I have also raised my voice earlier about strange stats at this casino as well in connection with a suspicious player. It was the only player ever registering on my default tracker that I never used to advertise, registered well before the problems started, never deposited, but started taking the money when my earnings skyrocketed on other trackers that I used over the years. I think this photo tells all (ultrastat...jpg).

And I also noticed this scheme that the superplayer takes the winnings earned before in the same month. Check the attachment (strange_amount.jpg). The only member on the default tracker that never deposited takes almost the identical amount that was earned on the other tracker from real depositing players.

Moreover, these people also lie on chat when addressing complaints. Earlier, years ago I already had a different problem with them: non payment, my earnings were not paid out. I don't know what their recent terms are, but back then, they offered lifetime revenue, and there were no restricting clauses (you can check at archive.org). When I mentioned the non payment on chat, the operator replied I got no payment, because I had not been an active affiliate for a while, that means I was earning from previously referred players only, and at the time of the payout I had no active banner from them. Okay, but isn't it what lifetime revenue is about? You earn after what you referred. And as there were no other special restricting clauses in their terms in connection with this (like inactivity restrictions, etc.), this is not a legit reason. When I directed their attention to this fact in the chat, and mentioned that this way I will not raise my complaint to the operator but will share the problems on forums instead, their attitude changed right away and paid. See the transcript attached, too. And this happened back in the days when they were platinum members here. Platinum members, but lying about the terms and not paying, ehh?
 

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Insider

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The suspicion of manipulation of statistics in this business has existed for many years. That's nothing new and we will never be able to prevent it. So we only get what they want to leave us.
 

Tupee

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The suspicion of manipulation of statistics in this business has existed for many years. That's nothing new and we will never be able to prevent it. So we only get what they want to leave us.

There are levels in suspicioning as well. When you get a player registering on an unused tracker link, never depositing but winning, and the amounts it wins equal to your recent earnings all the time, now that is a bit more than a suspicion. How can anyone register through a link that you never shared??? And that is the link where the problem player is attached to, and no other player during the years on that link, only that single player who causes the problems. Why not on the links that you used? Why not more players on the unused link, only 1 person, the problem player.

I think what we are dealing with here is that these guys learnt from previous experiences, where there is a problem with the affiliate: for example the affiliate is not paid due to certain secret reasons, yet after an ordeal the affiliate has the program to pay. Then, right away from next month, earnings vanish, previously constant depositing players stop depositing. This is a kind of situation that is just too transparent. We all know how a detagging looks in the stats. So instead of detagging, these guys at Ultrapartners figured out it is better to utilize a fantom player, and manipulate the statistics with that. Sometimes they let some payment through, to make you believe that your players are still attached to your account, the software is still counting your earnings, but there are others playing too, and the summary at the end of month reflects this mix. The problem comes only when someone like me never uses the default link to propagate the casino, and by accident, the fantom player is put on that link. Then this kind of manipulation becomes transparent too.

Now add repeated no payment practices to this, amounts disappearing from the payment order at the beginning of the month. I cannot think of situations where this mess doesn't ring the bells.
 

Insider

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There are levels in suspicioning as well. When you get a player registering on an unused tracker link, never depositing but winning, and the amounts it wins equal to your recent earnings all the time, now that is a bit more than a suspicion.
I meant generally not only alone at Ultra. In case of Ultra Partners it's of course more than suspicion, it's apparently.
 
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