How are your earnings with RA?

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    slots777

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    I'm looking for new Microgaming mobile casinos to promote, but I don't know if I can trust Rewards Affiliates. How are your earnings this year with this program if you have to choose one of the qualifications below? Thanks :)

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    CaseyM

    CaseyM Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    slots777

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    Thanks for the advice, what's the best converting casino of Starpartner in your experience?
     
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    KasinoKing

    KasinoKing Player turned affiliate.

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    Good.
    I know CR get a lot of bad press around the forums, but I honestly don't believe they are as bad as some people make out.
    The main complaints seem to be about "spamming" and non-linked cross-promotion between their 32 brands. However, their rep has explained to me exactly what their policy on e-mail marketing is and I personally believe what they say and that it is fair on the affiliates.

    I am on a Wager-Share deal with them which means I earn something every month - I can never have a negative month (which is a LOT better than with most other programs I promote).
    OK, this does mean if a whale comes in and blows a fortune with a small number of bets I wouldn't earn much from it - but how many whales are there these days anyway?

    KK
     
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    slotplayer

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    technically they're one of the few programs that actually has it together.
    I think I have more players there than any other program but earning aren't great.
     
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    byebyebaby

    byebyebaby Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Starpartner never did anything for me, neither did 32red. Rewards Affiliates earns me cash from time to time, so I like them. I also promote GoWild, for me does ok, not great. Microgaming, for me, has been a tough brand. NetEnt does a lot more for me somehow.
     
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    AussieDave

    AussieDave 17 years & still going!

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    Before NetEnt and others started pushing out excellent video slots, Microgaming was the bees knees. Here's a quote from MGS CEO (5/6/2014):
    I don't know which game suite Roger is testing to state this but since moving to the WideScreen setup (coincided with the release of HellBoy), their platform is buggy and riff with javascript errors. Numerous times I've hit the spin button and slot machines close or worse the platform freezes. Reinstalls do nothing, except waste another 10gig of bandwidth.

    Edit: Identical issue present themselves on my desktop (win7 64 bit) and my new laptop (win7 64bit). It's definately not my PC's.

    With so many other great casino software available today, MGS have dropped the ball. They need to lose the attitude and start listening to feedback. Albeit the new Terminator 2 slot is out but apart from some nice eye candy, nothing great there; just another 243/1024 payway video slot.

    My point to all this... I've promoted MGS for years and they were my best performers. Not these days though, even with Quickfire I find that buggy, albeit to lessor degree. It's the video slots which fail MGS. They've got this habit of re-skinning games, instead of bringing out fresh releases. Players are not idiots and why I think other brands are stomping MGS lately.
     
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    CaseyM

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    For mobile traffic I like Casino UK mobile but if you are not UK focused/don't have a lot of UK traffic I would go for Crazy Vegas mobile or Golden Riviera mobile
     
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    slots777

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    Do you mean the mobile casino of Netent? These aren't converting for me. In terms of mobile traffic, Microgaming Spin3 converts best for me. Also tried playtech brands for mobile traffic, like Casino Las Vegas, but it didn't work out.
     
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    slotplayer

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    not really sure what is going on here. What I do know is week after week, month after month, year after year the player base builds up, (maybe not as fast as it once did) but I only see 1 or maybe 2 wagering. Hard to believe with almost 350 eligible players none are really playing.
     
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    CaseyM

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    I see exactly the same thing, zero retention
     
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    slotplayer

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    Why is that with amount of offers they send out after a player joins one casino? Are they separating out (from the mailing list) the players that join via an affiliate tag?
     
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    Anybody has good steady earnings btw? Seems like nobody has positive experiences.
     
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    slotplayer

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    I have seen a player or two join a mobile casino and I never used any of those landing page links so I'm assuming that its due to proper tracking.

    I'm only interested in the end result, earnings. It can only be one of two things, player quality is low and they don't stick around or they're being siphoned off some how. One I can control the other I can't but if I can't trust the partner how do I know that any work to improve conversions is all for not?
     
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    Vladi

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    Interesting point about the wager share system. I too used to earn a small amount each month with them. Then I asked to be switched to a normal revenue share and now I earn loads more with them each month. The difference was astounding - I'm talking about going from a few hundred a month on average to a few thousand. Sure some months I get a 0 when players win but there is no negative CO and overall I earn a lot more.

    Take a look at the calculations they base the wager share payments on in the T&Cs. From what I can recall, the assumed payout rate for slots is optimistically high, around 96.5% IIRC. So in the long run if the slots have a lower RTP like 95% then you're shorting yourself by opting for that system.

    I think perhaps the wager share model might work if you have a very large player base or you have some kind of strange players that deposit very little but somehow manage to wager it over and over for an abnormally long time, but if you don't I really believe that its a bad choice.
     
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    TheGooner

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    The WagerShare model works well enough if you have players who start as winners :) they gamble far more than the theoretical turnover in the percentage models and you can achieve five figure payouts on players that have only deposited a small amount.

    Of course, I always wonder what the final profit number for the month would have looked like and appropriate revenue share - and you are never provided that so it's impossible to be sure. But the surety of a regular return is welcome.

    But these guys are regular 4-figure monthly commissions for us, and some very good 5-figure months, they pay quickly with minimal chargebacks, and we are very satisfied with our partnership with them.
     
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    AussieDave

    AussieDave 17 years & still going!

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    The pros and cons for the wager model versus the rev share model are relative to each affiliates preference. The wager model does seems better suited to sites delivering slot players. I'm on the wager model. Whether I could earn more on rev share is a true dilemma, one I've occassional pondered but as others have said, receiving a return each month, not affected by withdrawals, suits me fine.

    Hear, hear and compared to other program, RA chargebacks are practically non-exsistent.
     
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    slotplayer

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    I think Rene said they recover almost all the cb's.
    US facing aside, by the time an affiliate sees one in the stats all recovery attempts have failed. (theoretically)

    When I did the audit years ago betting quarter dollars per pay line wr earnings came out to about 8-10% of deposits most of the time, unless I won a little and wagered it back then it increased.
     
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