CWC Affiliates: How many accounts needed??

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    Peter-Jan

    Peter-Jan Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Hi,

    I wanted to insert the affiliate links for CWC Affiliates brands Club Euro
    Club UK, Club World.

    When I log in at CWC I only see OTHER brands :eek: namely Club USA, Lucky Red, Aladdin's Gold.

    The email form does not work so that's why I am asking here: Do I need 4 different accounts to promote these guys?

    (4 accounts = 1 for each brand I wanted and than the CWC account with the 3 new (to me) brands.)

    PS I don't get it why affiliates have to hunt for affiliate links to promote casinos...
     
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    sipka

    sipka Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    If I remember right you need separate account for the Euro and UK CWC brands, the Club World Group contains the US facing ones.
    Martyn can say how does it work exactly, though I don't understand either why they cannot be brought under one umbrella. (Maybe the Euro and UK casinos use another currency and they cannot merge them with the US$ ones?)
     
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    KasinoKing

    KasinoKing Player turned affiliate.

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    I think sipka is correct, but are you sure you want to promote them?
    This is only my personal view, but if I hadn't started promoting them years ago when they first launched, I definitely would not add them to my site now because they have negative carry-over.
    I have not and will not put them on the other 4 sites I run all the time they have NCO.
    After enduring spells of up to 16 months getting paid zip by 4 different NCO programs, I have vowed "never again"!

    I met Martin at LAC and he was very pleasant and helpful & said they are working on improving their affy back-end system right now, so hopefully it should be better soon.

    KK
     
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    Peter-Jan

    Peter-Jan Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Thanks for replys!

    @Sipka: Ok I guess I will have to make all these accounts. Indeed very curious why a technology company can not make a single log-in for its affiliate program... Maybe they have shares in StatsRemote :)

    @KasinoKing: Thanks for warning! My link management is centralized so redirecting their traffic to somewhere else would only take me 2 minutes of work. If I get in a negative carry-over situation they will have to make me a custom offer or see their traffic from me dry up.
     
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    WCD Admin

    WCD Admin Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    That technological (I'm not sure what to call it -- problem) is exactly why I don't promote them either.
    lol.
     
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    Rhondagrace

    Rhondagrace gotaslotonmymind

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    I'm sorry if I seem to be derailing this topic, but this was on my mind the other day.


    this is currently on Martyn's MSN messenger I checked the LAC Awards page and don't see them listed anywhere. am I blind, or looking in the wrong place? when I Saw this on Martyn's IM page I was shocked, because they do have a neg carryover, and I said to self....

    How can this be?? CWC winner of Best casino affiliate program!

    IM- Martyn: Back from LAC - WINNER OF BEST CASINO AFFILIATE PROGRAM...toot! |



    Past Winners | iGB Affiliate Awards

    I found them at CAP as winners, but, I'm still confused is CAP the same thing as LAC?


    iGB Affilate Awards Winners Announced
     
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    AE-Martyn

    AE-Martyn Affiliate Program Representative

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    Hi all,

    I have only just seen this thread now so apologies for the delay in my response.

    With regards to the affiliate program, if you are looking to promote the UK and Euro brands then yes you will need a seperate account to promote these and get the links. Available from the homepage of CWC Affiliates.

    This will soon change however. We are working on a new program that will sort out all your concerns regards to the seperate accounts for various casinos. The reason that it is this way is the RTG backend, which is what we use, cannot separate brands running different currencies. Not ideal I know but we are sorting that out as I mentioned.

    The new system will be a single login, will have all brands associated and will break down the commissions properly by brand. This is a case of us outgrowing our original affiliate solution.

    Please, if you have any issues going forward please contact me direct on martyn@cwcaffiliates.com and I'll be able to deal with you direct and sort out any issues. I am also available on MSN martynbeaon (at) hot mail dot com and skype using M8ECO26.

    Peter-Jan, I am sorry that you are having issues locating our signup options and links and I can assure you that this will be sorted out very soon. Please feel free to contact me direct should you need any assistance.

    :emoticon-0114-dull:

    Hi Rhonda,

    I know exactly why you are posting this and it's an attempt to purposely de-rail this thread. It's what you do.

    For those that are out of the loop Rhonda and I had an MSN conversation the other day about how to link an image with her aff tag. She went off on me after saying I didnt help her...even though I did, I provided an example of how to link an <img> tag with an <a> tag and informed that she needed to change just 1 thing, her aff id in the link. I also told her that the code she was using for the image that she had copied from one of our casinos was incorrect. I have this convo saved and she did apologise to her credit.

    Anyway, not wanting to air dirty laundry in public I will put this out there. Rhonda, if you have any issues with the way I dealt with you last week, or with our program as a whole and reasons why we should not of won the award voted for by affiliates and industry people then please get in touch. You have my MSN, my email so you know where I am.
     
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    WCD Admin

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    Thanks that will be great to see that Martyn. Lots of people say they make money with you. However the neg. carry-over might be a bit of a snag, too. Wonder if we can get help removing that?
     
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    AE-Martyn

    AE-Martyn Affiliate Program Representative

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    Hi, the last thing we want to see is our affiliates not earning with us. There are always options, all I ask is you work with me and we can always find a middle ground.

    If you are not happy with the current set up but want to push us, please hold that thought and soon I'll be able to show you more towards what you are looking for with the new program.

    However, I would like to work with you now (obviously) so here are some carrots as to what we are working on right now...
    • New Affiliate Program (Single Login)
    • New Affiliate Tools
    • More Reporting Options
    • New Brands Being Launched
    • Automated Player Retention System

    Feel free to get in touch should you wish to discuss anything, this goes out to all. :)
     
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    Rhondagrace

    Rhondagrace gotaslotonmymind

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    Martyn What do you mean this is what I do?

    I questioned CWC as winning best affiliate program because you do have neg carryover. and you certainly do not go above and beyond helping some affiliates, such as myself that don't have a lot of experience.
     
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    greedygirl

    greedygirl Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    I may be a bit biased due to my history with CWC, but I also think anyone who knows me would agree that I'm fair: I've had the great pleasure of working with Martyn and I've only known him to go over and above to help someone out. It's certainly uncharacteristic to see Martyn appear frustrated as he clearly is in this thread.

    I'm struggling to understand why you're having issues with Martyn, Rhonda. I'd suggest it would be far more productive to have a private conversation with him (preferably by phone, as the written word can often be mis-interpreted).

    IMO, whether you agree or disagree with the award CWC has garnered, voicing it in this thread is simply an attack and meant to derail.

    With so many people voting favorably for CWC, they're clearly doing things right. Do you really think they'd have won the award if the masses felt similarly to you?

    Sorry...just had to toss in my two cents (woulda tossed in 3 cents, but I can't find the change jar).
     
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    AE-Martyn

    AE-Martyn Affiliate Program Representative

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    As I said Rhonda, it's probably best to contact me or even my boss if you are feeling you received poor service rather than carry on this issue of yours in a totally unrelated thread.

    Negative carryover does not make for a bad affiliate program, obviously some people like our brands, service, conversion and like working with us and that is the reason why we won. If you're not happy about that then next year make sure you cast your vote for those programs that you do well with and enjoy working with. Maybe you can take this up with the team at iGB?

    Again, with regards to me helping you last week, I have the conversation saved as I knew it would come back on me. I have re-read it a couple of times and the only thing that I didnt do was insert your affiliate ID into the link I sent you on MSN. 5 numbers is all that was required for you to change.

    I consider this the end of this conversation on this thread but please feel free to contact me direct to discuss your issues further. There are other people here that I can be working with and want to work with us who are interested in the advancements we are making and who are asking valid questions and looking to grow their business.

    Apologies for this thread going off on a tangent and I hope that if there are any further qestions regards to accounts with CWC Affiliates then I will answer them as my soonest convenience.


    P.S. Thanks Debbee.

    Cheers,
     
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    Guard Dog

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    ok folks... now that we have all that aired out...

    Let's KEEP this thread on topic. I do not want any more bantering about this issue. Rhonda and Martyn can take that offline, if they choose to continue.

    Thanks and let's please continue the conversation on this original topic (if necessary):

     

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