Check your Videoslots September stats!

[KasinoKing]

I checked my September stats in the first few days of October - but when they paid me yesterday, it was about half what I was expecting.

When I looked at the stats again, I found that although some days did add up correctly, an awful lot are now incorrect. This is the first time I have seen something like this at VS.

So on this spreadsheet I made from downloading the stats, I added the column NGR which = GGR minus all the deductions listed. Compare that with their original NGR column - and you can see most figures are WAY out!
Some are higher and some are lower, which is VERY strange!

Anyone else getting the same on their September stats?

KK

 

[TTR]

every month receive same letter, they just dont pay and sent this information

 

[preditor]

Excatly as with @TTR - Every single month for the past 6 months or so I have recived the same e-mail.

Videoslots is a joke for affiliates.

 

[bonustreak]

They are so shady!! They make up all sorts of lies for not paying and for stats not adding up. 30k due and just think that is only at 3% since they don't actually pay 35%! I bet they will say that you did not bring in new players.

 

[AussieDave]

They are so shady!!

Andy threw them into the Doghouse, and they BS'd to get out, quickly. Its been proved VideoSlots.com are lying thieves. So why have they not be thrown back into the Doghouse?

@TTR, @preditor and many other AGD members have said they're not being paid, even though they're owed large sums of commission. That, combined with all of the above, and all their other threads, prove they're dodgy AF.

Surely that's more than enough reasons to drop kick them into the DH... just sayin!

 

[Insider]

The same situation here because in germany the situation is even worse.

Not a large sum we are talking about here but money is money.

As reason for not paying you will told that they are not allowed to pay because it would be "illegal". This reason or other excuses like not bringing enough customers are only lame excuses for me. They always try to find any excuses not to pay but earn further on customers we affiliates brought.

We already stopped promoting them at the point they said they can't pay anymore on revshare. It was also difficult to negotiate with CPA. Seen like that it was an easy thing and excuse for them not to pay anymore.

Fact is that they are the fastest paying company for casino customers. But their affiliate program is one of the worst, how bonustreak and many others from you already mentioned a longer time.

We will not change it because the upper mangement decide how they act with partners.

No matter how many rules and excuses they will declare, as people acting in this company they have a really bad character. For me they have no honor and decency.

I can't also understand why they are not already long ago at the Dog House.

However if AGD get payments every month from Videoslots i could understand that's not easy to decide. The responsibles from VS are not stupid and also reading here. So i could imagine well they have an agreement.

 

[Kadabra]

+1

 

[AussieDave]

I can't also understand why they are not already long ago at the Dog House.

However if AGD get payments every month from Videoslots i could understand that's not easy to decide. The responsibles from VS are not stupid and also reading here. So i could imagine well they have an agreement.

Conflicts of interest are riff in this industry.

I'm not saying that's the case with the LCB Network and VS. I'm simply making a generalised statement.

There's a well know player forum, where, VideoSlots are held in high regard. Ironically, when Affiliate Edge shafted all their affiliates, they also screwed over the owner of the player forum too.

He dropped them like a hot-cake, and held the opinion that any affiliate who didn't follow suit, and drop them too, was a rogue-affiliate. I always find that funny. I mean, VideoSlots still pay certain BIG affiliates, while, they rob, lie and cheat most of their other affiliate partners.

I mean shouldn't that be grounds for every affiliate, BIG or small, to drop VS? Yes it should.

But I guess until BIG affiliates/Networks are not being paid, nothing is going to change.

 

[gobo]

They have also changed their terms slightly recently. Now to trigger a CPA, a player must deposit X and wager €2000 instead of €200 within 30 days.

 

[gobo]

I checked my September stats in the first few days of October - but when they paid me yesterday, it was about half what I was expecting.

When I looked at the stats again, I found that although some days did add up correctly, an awful lot are now incorrect. This is the first time I have seen something like this at VS.

So on this spreadsheet I made from downloading the stats, I added the column NGR which = GGR minus all the deductions listed. Compare that with their original NGR column - and you can see most figures are WAY out!
Some are higher and some are lower, which is VERY strange!

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Anyone else getting the same on their September stats?

KK

I have the impression that their stats often do not add up. When pointing that out to the affiliate managers, they usually say that they had some problem with the stats and that they have been corrected - always to a lower commission than initially. You don't have to be a tin foil hat to suspect shaving - especially with their greedy track record. Custom-built affiliate backends + bad t&c = disaster.

DOG HOUSE!

 

[AussieDave]

They have also changed their terms slightly recently. Now to trigger a CPA, a player must deposit and wager €2000 instead of €200 within 30 days.

An honest CPA (both ways) is an affiliate delivers a (genuine) NDP, who, deposits the min agreed on amount. Wagering should never come into it.

Just on that, VideoSlots are scammers!

 

[MissExposé]

We sent an email to the representatives and asked for updates regarding these payment issues. Keep you posted.

 

[Motz]

I have this problem too. Been working with them for a long time and since quite a few months back, commission has NOT added up. They keep blaming their system blah blah but it's starting to look more and more like blatant shaving. I'm fucking disgusted to be honest.

We already know they are anti affiliates and now it looks like they are messing with the numbers. I will be everything they that they are.

 

[TTR]

I also remember a very funny story, like mb 4-5 years ago, i used to make some streams on the witch on videoslots with my friend, so technically i have 2 accounts (mine and friends).

So we stream together, i was playing on his account and his watching, so i deposit 30-40k, won 50-60k, was like 90-100k balance, finished the stream and these assholes write that i have 2 account and they dont pay me the winnings! (just return the deposit)....

and i made a lot of money for them plus i helped them to translate all site on russian on the beginning, was mb 2016 year... so assholes

 

[AussieDave]

so assholes

The moment the owner (Alexander), decided to be dishonest and commence scamming affiliates, was the day he became a criminal. For those not around in 2014, the VideoSlots.com affiliate stats went MIA. All the data which was once freely available, went MIA.

They, VideoSlots.com said it was a technical issue. That was BS. A bare faced lie.

Andy (previous owner of AGD) threw VideoSlots.com into the Doghouse, then the truth started to surface.

Before the stats went MIA, VS were paying affiliates a fair commission rate.

However, when the stats went MIA, they (VS) started shaving all manner of deductions from GGR, and forcing their, mostly, loyal, long standing affiliates, to wear these insane costs.

VideoSlots.com are crooks.

Any one or any entity who tries to say they're not, is full of sh#t.

 

[Motz]

What AussieDave says is true, I was around also around that time. Videoslots are probably the most rogue cunts of them all. If you promote Videoslots and Mr Vegas, be sure your numbers are being systematically shaved. Their tracking software, which they conveniently developed themselves, can't even keep track of the real numbers and it has to be adjusted manually all the time since payments are wrong. It's so obvious that numbers cannot be trusted.

If you don't respect yourself, keep sending players to these thieving c**ts.

 

[AussieDave]

If you promote Videoslots and Mr Vegas, be sure your numbers are being systematically shaved. Their tracking software, which they conveniently developed themselves, can't even keep track of the real numbers and it has to be adjusted manually all the time since payments are wrong. It's so obvious that numbers cannot be trusted.

@Guard Dog - How many affiliates does it take, all signing the same-song, to see VideoSlots, Mr Vegas and any other gaming operation they have their thieving fingers in, can't be trusted.

How long does it take for the penny to drop at AGD, to kick these crooks into the Doghouse???!!!

 

[Motz]

@Guard Dog - How many affiliates does it take, all signing the same-song, to see VideoSlots, Mr Vegas and any other gaming operation they have their thieving fingers in, can't be trusted.

How long does it take for the penny to drop at AGD, to kick these crooks into the Doghouse???!!!

I have no clue what it takes. I can only do what I can do, which is to remove brands or significantly lower exposure once I suspect I am being fucked over. That's what I did with Videoslots once I noticed something was wrong.

 

[KasinoKing]

There's a well know player forum, where, VideoSlots are held in high regard...

If I see the well-known forum owner at SiGMA next week I will ask him.

I just went back & looked at 2 more months' stats - and they show the same anomalies. I guess therefore, that it's every month - I just hadn't noticed before
Though for one of those months their NGR was actually slightly HIGHER than it should have been - but the other was only 35% of the "true figure".
So it looks like either: Their maths is not GGR - (all listed costs & deductions) = NGR...
... or there is just something VERY screwy with their reporting system!

For the record - they have always paid me (very late) each month, so at least that's one thing I personally can't complain about. Though I am shocked and angry to hear that other affs are apparently not getting paid

KK

 

[MissExposé]

We sent a reminder email since we haven't heard back so far.