AffPower

[Trafficdirver]

I Know I said Im not going to be involved in discussion with this troll.

But since this person is having another stab at me and for the sake of transparency Im inclined to reply to this affpower troll hiding behind Traffidriver user name. Why would we pay back money to those programmes? It is not us who scammed them. We earned that money fair and square until the point when we got them blacklisted ( whether that was because there was too many complaints, non payments, pirated software and so forth, reasons are many ). We cant be held responsible for something that we did in good faith ( ie promoting XWY casino until they turned rogue ).

It is actually them who are suppose to pay back the money to all the players and affiliates that got cheated. it is not LCB who scammed anyone, we reported on those activities when we learned something fishy was going on. And eventually it is LCB's complaints team who helps those players get paid ( same as CM ,AG and others ).

Dirty money would be to continue to promote those who are proven cheaters.

This is my last response to this troll. As far as this topic I will continue to be involved if needed be and if there is something new to report.

@Zuga bla bla "it is not us who scammed them" but you promoted them. so the money is not clean. players lost money on a blacklist site, that is blacklist because they were not fair with players, not fair games, players lost money because they were not fair, you win money out of not fair games. dirty money, dirty you.
if you think you did nothing bad and promoted them so let other affiliates promote them without puting your nose in the middle.
if you do not return the money you stole from players loses (because of not fair games) you are as dirty as the ones you are pointing fingers at
better you do not answer, say i am a troll and run away like a rat

Exactly...

CM nails my Israeli point home...

@Bet4You stop working with israel companies, i want to see how long it takes for you to be homeless. show some respect and do not bite the hand that feeds you

 

[Kadabra]

First, I agree with the general idea about Israeli companies. There are plenty great ones there, so I think each one should be treated individually. The fact that there are so many means that naturally will be more bad ones as well. I doubt anyone would go homeless without them, but still no need to put them all in one basket.

Regarding the first part (although i assume you mainly like to spice things here, but i'll bite) who exactly LCB need to give the money back to?

 

[inspiration]

I do not like the AFFPOWER TROLLS allowing to continue their mission on this forum.

I will take a break until these SHILLS have been banned.

 

[byebyebaby]

I feel so bad I starten this all (I know someone else would have started it if I didn't, but still).
What a mess.... Relax people, remove the brands and move on.

 

[DaftDog]

I feel so bad I starten this all (I know someone else would have started it if I didn't, but still).

You started the thread asking a legitimate question. Nothing to feel bad about. It got a bit sidetracked but now you understand what a bunch of criminals you were dealing with. Shills and all.

 

[CanaryJohn]

I can't talk for anyone else on the thread but I am absolutely not a shill. That whole "shill" episode took this thread in a completely different direction and it hasn't been helpful for me at all. My business was even paraded on the page.

I was simply making the point that I am fond of the guys over at Affpower on a personal level. I thought it would be a good idea to wait for statements from Affpower and NetEnt as that is the only source of information I would be happy to trust. I'm not currently promoting these brands now anyway due to a lack of UK licence so this was more of a decision for the future for me. All I did was try to offer a more balanced perspective and that was before I heard all the evidence anyway. This turned in to a massive witch hunt against users of this forum... i.e - me.

I do not appreciate being called a shill. There is not some Affpower conspiracy with an army of shill online, certainly not that I'm aware of. It seems like the second you have a different view from a collection of users on here you're automatically deemed to be a shill.

Grow up.

 

[DaftDog]

I won't be feeding these two low life trolls / shills with any more responses.

 

[AussieDave]

I am absolutely not a shill.

Well you sure act like one...

It seems like the second you have a different view from a collection of users on here you're automatically deemed to be a shill

That might be your impression but it's not true.

In fact, the AGD forum along with Andy, is a forum that allows far more freedom of speech that most other places. I haven't seen you post your stuff to CasinoMeister... Go over there and try this "different view" and see what it gets you. I'm not telling you anything new, otherwise you'd have posted there.

As far as Affpower goes, they've been busted. End of story.

So trying to save their bacon, when Blind Freddy can see their goose-is-cooked, only reinforces our belief, your a shill.

 

[Guard Dog]

I agree, of course. We allow a LOT of freedom here in expressing your opinion. Many say way too much. I have been asked to remove or ban many members and haven't. I don't enjoy banning and I don't enjoy removing posts. Spam - yes... I really enjoy removing that and banning them But - real people with real opinions.... everyone has one, everyone is entitled, and opposition to those opinions are also welcomed and entitled.

Yes, IMO, AffPower was busted as soon as NetEnt said they pirated the games. And let's just be honest... ConanGaming and AffPower are one and the same. So - since ConanGaming implemented the theft, Affpower is as liable for that theft. My guess is NetEnt will take some sort of action against both companies (companies in name only to separate the 2, IMO).

And, considering the theft - what will happen with their gaming license? I'm guessing that will be taken away as well.

All theory of course..

 

[Vivi Fox]

Thanks for the advice guys.

Regards.

ViVi

 

[Trafficdirver]

sooooo happy to see netent is back on the casinos. this is a good sign. now lets see what ninja stories you come up with

 

[dfiocch]

Hey, ninja.
They are available ONLY on demo mode not in "money mode".
These guys thinks people are stupid... but maybe they are.

sts-static.casinomodule.com

Just waiting to see WHO owns this license/concession and it's not affpower.

SOTOMAYOR!

 

[Trafficdirver]

Hey, ninja.
They are available ONLY on demo mode not in "money mode".
These guys thinks people are stupid... but maybe they are.

sts-static.casinomodule.com

Just waiting to see WHO owns this license/concession and it's not affpower.

SOTOMAYOR!

duhhhh... maybe you are not allowed to play from your location? DUHHHH

 

[dfiocch]

Duuuuuhhh... do you know that exists something called VPN? Or something called proxies?
Plus, another two guys are checking from different locations. Duuuuuhhhh.... same story.

But hold on, we just saw something "interesting"... duuuuuuuh!

 

[Trafficdirver]

show us what you found! and DUHHHHH will not work vpn or proxy if the country is blocked
do you even know which countries netent can not be played? DUHHHH

 

[dfiocch]

According to NetEnt (itself) players from UK can play their games. I'm "skypiiiing" with a guy based in UK (Leicester). DUUUUUUH!
He sees what I see. DUUUUUUH!

 

[dfiocch]

Interesting trick... embedding iframes pre-rendered through nice jquery tricks (remote.html) to allow browser get requests directly from https://sts-static-test.casinomodule.com/gameinclusion/library/gameinclusion.js

Why someone should do such HARD WORK when all renowned game suppliers have their own kits to embed games in third party casinos?
Nice to see the whois query for such domain (grandx.pro) too... funny to see that Fruity Casa (i.e.) serve their games under the Caddell Limited Platform on a domain registered to a public company (Caddell Limited N.V.) instead of a PRIVATELY REGISTERED DOMAIN (grandx.pro) with a "yandex.ru" mail account.

However, still not able to see those games in Real Money mode. It's strange just because we tested (directly and under VPNs) some casinos such as Fruity Casa, PlayGrand, InterCasino, Videoslots and MrGreen and in all cases we were able play NetEnt games on both DEMO and REAL mode.

 

[Trafficdirver]

you know something, i went to check my self this as well. for a moment i thought you might be right but you are just plain stupid. i could not play from uk but from germany was perfect. sweden was perfect. so yes, you are not very bright

 

[Zuga]

Dear AGD Admins, would you be so kind to ban Trafficdirver who is obviously associated with rogue Affpower and deliberately trying to mislead people here with false statements. And now even being insulting.

 

[Trafficdirver]

i did not mean to insult anyone but please do your checks ok and you zuga... return the money you got from this affiliate programme