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great news. Glad RP is doing the only right thing. Hope there won't be more similar issues in future. :)
 

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I have been reminded that Royal Panda are in the final few months of their earn out period after being acquired by Leo Vegas at the end of last year. It is highly likely that they are desperate to boost their NDP and margin numbers before the period expires so that they can maximise their payout from Leo Vegas via the earn out clause.

You beat me to that. I don't remember for sure but i think it's something like 60M euro clause :)
 

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Update: we were underpaid for last month but they will make it up to us.

Activity on our account this month is zilch. I'll be quite surprised if we ever earn another cent from RP. There are many ways to shear a sheep.

Still no apology, still getting attitude, he clearly doesn't think he did anything wrong.
 

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Update: we were underpaid for last month but they will make it up to us.

Activity on our account this month is zilch. I'll be quite surprised if we ever earn another cent from RP. There are many ways to shear a sheep.

Still no apology, still getting attitude, he clearly doesn't think he did anything wrong.

Extremely disappointing to hear :/
 

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Activity on our account this month is zilch. I'll be quite surprised if we ever earn another cent from RP.

that is truly worrisome but I would wait end of the month ( and next one I reckon ) before making any conclusions.

Still no apology, still getting attitude, he clearly doesn't think he did anything wrong.

I certainly hope they would understand what they did was wrong and not to mention illegal and hopefully they will also make another comment on AGD and reassure the affiliate community they won't be pulling more stunts like this...
 

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I am happy for TS that it's solved (edit: I hope it's solved...), but it's kind of sad that RP solves is just after they notice that everybody doesn't accept this behavior.
 
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Activity on our account this month is zilch. I'll be quite surprised if we ever earn another cent from RP
I had a feeling it would go this way, you outed them BIG TIME and they are pissed off. Your players have been moved to the house account or elsewhere......gave these clowns away years ago as they smelt like tuna. They have probably pulled this move on heaps of other affiliates to pump up their earn out bonus but only you had the guts to post the story - good on you!
 

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RP affiliates seemed like a honest program, but this is huge. Hope that everything will be fine in the end ;)
 

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I had a feeling it would go this way, you outed them BIG TIME and they are pissed off. Your players have been moved to the house account or elsewhere......gave these clowns away years ago as they smelt like tuna. They have probably pulled this move on heaps of other affiliates to pump up their earn out bonus but only you had the guts to post the story - good on you!

Of course I knew that sort of thing would be a risk but realistically as an affiliate you can't prove anything so you just have to trust your gut. I felt like if they were willing to cut the commissions so blatantly there's nothing to stop them from doing other stuff that isn't so obvious and they could do it any time they liked. To be fair I promise to post here the day I see any further activity on the account.

But I made the call that it was probably already too late and it would be better to let others know what is going on than to keep quiet and let them get away with it. Who knows how many other affiliates they are doing this to that are too scared to say anything as you say.

The sad thing is that before they hit the self destruct button we were very happy with them. They always pay on time, their casino is good and we've had very few complaints from players, though we did get one recently from a player who got stung by the old chestnut of bonus bet limits that aren't programmed into the software. They are far from alone on that issue though, which is one of my pet gripes with casinos at the moment.
 

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RP affiliates and Onno need to make public statement reassuring affiliates they won't be unilaterally and retroactively changing deals and T&Cs that would be seen as breach of the original contractual T&Cs.

Otherwize how can we trust them not to do this over and over again?
 

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The players never returned of course... gee I wonder why? One was Swedish so would have disappeared anyway this month as Royal Panda have shut down that market.

But the latest is that this dog of an affiliate manager, who aside from trying to retroactively cut our commissions and shave us, had the gall to post private names and other info in this thread in contravention of privacy laws that his business is supposed to follow, is now asking me to send him a passport, license, photo id, proof of company ownership etc.

You think I should give this bozo an identity theft kit?

It would be funny if it wasn't so stunningly hypocritical.
 

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geez man not good. Definitely these guys cannot be trusted, or at least this Otto person, though I suspect this is above his paygrade.
 

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Not sending any documents means a closed account.

But I do understand that you're prudent about sending documents to affiliate programs. Especially, when a program has shown they post private details in public (which is clearly a data breach).
 

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Yeah I figure as much, not that we are earning anything with them anymore anyway. I asked him to put me in contact with a manager or supervisor as I refuse to give this sort of information to him.
 

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You think I should give this bozo an identity theft kit?
No way! you would be nuts giving this bozo anything that he could use against you or passed to others at some point. As he has been with them for many years he is way part of the furniture so giving it to someone else there would not make any difference anyway.

I stopped promoting RP about 2 years ago as something was not feeling right, if Otto showed up at another program that i currently promote that would be a BIG source of concern & i would be looking at an exit.
 

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I stopped promoting RP too after reading this. It's a potential source of massive headache and the particular manager in question is quickly burning his bridges in this industry.
 

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  5. Missing Admin Fee:
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