Videoslots Affiliates

[casinonewbie]

I suggest that on the questionnaire you add an additional question.
1. Yes ; 2. No ; 3. Will try ; 4. Will drop them.

That's been done, you can cast your vote...

 

[baldidiot]

Videoslots system is built on customer retention and not to earn a quick bux. That is why Videoslots continuously are saying their customer are loyal all the time. You will earn more money in the long run with Videoslots than probably any other program.

That's a pretty easy statement to verify - anyone with a decent player base at VS that's been around a while care to comment on how their lifetime average commission per player compares to other brands they promote?

 

[danniee]

That's a pretty easy statement to verify - anyone with a decent player base at VS that's been around a while care to comment on how their lifetime average commission per player compares to other brands they promote?

In my experience, that's not true at all. First of all, most players already have a Videoslots account which makes it hard to get signups. In general, I also see no sign of VS players being of higher value than other brands. I make loads more even on white hat brands. Cant even compare them. Actually, VS is one of my worst performing program.

So from my personal experience and looking at my affiliate friends, I can't really see anything that makes VS worth promoting more than other brand.

 

[CL-Ed]

We've had an account with them since shortly after they opened and we have referred hundreds of depositors, probably close to four figures over that time. We made sure to get a hybrid deal a few years ago because of this issue. They are far from the worst, but still they are in the bottom half looking at earnings per depositor compared to the other programs we have (hundreds in total). I think we've been with them long enough to safely say that they will never be anywhere near the best in that respect.

 

[KasinoKing]

That's a pretty easy statement to verify - anyone with a decent player base at VS that's been around a while care to comment on how their lifetime average commission per player compares to other brands they promote?

Jack Lee was not talking about "average commission per player" - he was saying you'll earn more in total than other programs.

The average per player is 100% definitely MUCH lower than other programs due to the high fees (especially that evil Admin Fee) - but you can earn more in total than other programs due to having a lot more players.

This is certainly the case for me: I earn more at VS with 20-30 active players than I do at other programs with only 3-4 active players. But the earnings are not proportional.

KK

 

[baldidiot]

Jack Lee was not talking about "average commission per player" - he was saying you'll earn more in total than other programs.

The average per player is 100% definitely MUCH lower than other programs due to the high fees (especially that evil Admin Fee) - but you can earn more in total than other programs due to having a lot more players.

This would only be true if the conversions for equivalent exposure is significantly higher for VS compared to other brands, is that the case?

 

[KasinoKing]

This would only be true if the conversions for equivalent exposure is significantly higher for VS compared to other brands, is that the case?

Yes, definitely.
They still have one of, if not THE best welcome offer of any EU regulated casino I know.
Wagering is only Bonus x20, cashable - do you know of any other casinos which come anywhere close to that???

On top of that, new players get 11 wager-free spins and a further £10 extra cash as well... unbeatable offer!

KK

 

[Jack Lee]

(especially that evil Admin Fee)

I heard they are removing the admin fee this year. So you might be lucky if that is true
Did not hear if from VS directly, but good if rumor is true!

 

[KasinoKing]

I heard they are removing the admin fee this year. So you might be lucky if that is true
Did not hear if from VS directly, but good if rumor is true!

I also heard a rumour that Jesus will be coming back this year... but I won't be holding my breath for either!

KK

 

[AussieDave]

It's not Miles who is posting at CM.
He doesn't post here any more because all he gets is grief over something he has 0% control over.

When he 1'st started working for VS, he made out like he had the power to make-changes, which turned out to be hogwash. Hence, Miles only received "grief" here etc., etc., because he was posting misleading information, and engaged in denial and deflection tactics. You yourself KK admitted VS have been "double dipping", yet Miles took umbrage over such a suggestion.

Granted Miles is an employee of VS. But so too is the Telco Rep one calls when they get shafted with an overcharge.

While we've since learned "Miles" has no-say in how VS operates its affiliate program et al, he, like the Telco Rep, is affiliates only recourse to venting their frustrations, in not only being mislead, but worse, being played for suckers. For the part Miles played in that, he has been held accountable, and so he should be.

I dare say the only reason Miles is MIA, is because he knows the game is up, and any trust he once had, he, himself, pissed that up against the wall by assisting VS in pulling the wool over affiliates eyes.

 

[AidanLCFC]

well this thread turned out to be a very interesting one indeed. Looks like the reviews I have just had written will be moved to the bottom of the listings now, just so I can make the cost of the reviews back. such a shame when a decent product and what i assumed was a decent affiliate program turn out to be rip offs, and thats before i read the reps comments on CM, class act whoever that is (sarcasm for those not understanding British humour)

 

[The Stone]

I don't know how they can say the life time of the players is better than anywhere else,unless they're stealing data of course

 

[Roulette Zeitung]

By chance and due to investigations of AGD the topic "admin fee" came back into my mind after I have warned about it on November last year. Due to the irreparable loss of my wife I had neither time nor power to look at anything which is connected to this industry for a long time. I have no good days anymore, only bad days and not so bad days. If I am busy, then it's not so hard.

Yesterday I declared on GPWA officially war on the admin fee rip-off scheme in my lucid diary in the fun area. I will fight them from now on, and one should know from the past, that only censorship can stop me. And I believe in the power of the few, because the cases, where Income Access, IGB Affiliate, Buffalo Partners, Club Gold Casino and Lapalingo had no other arguments than to order censorship on my investigations, this cases are evidence, that even one guy can have some impact if he believes in true resistance - as I do it - and does not fear anyone, also not complete idiots, who are comparing me with Hitler, because they have no arguments.

However, It's not only a matter of Videoslots. It's a plague. Admin fees are a legacy of Pyramid Schemes, Multi Level Marketing Rip-Offs and marriage agencies. Once again the "Major Networks" in this industry have been in a sleeping beauty unless it was too late.

Hopefully now at least AGD and GPWA will be a free stage to tell the audience the truth, that admin fees are nothing but a rip-off scheme and that only a public pressure can change something.

I mean, if I look at the terms of Videoslots, how can one be surprised, that she/he will be milked by this Meyer-Lansky like scheme:

"Your Revenue Share is calculated from the casino’s earnings of Your referred players minus Our game provider fee, bonuses (incl. paid loyalty), jackpot fees, regulator taxes, bank fees, chargebacks and 25% admin fees."

Zillions of fees and then at the end 25 % rip-off fee on the top!

And other programs?
They are not better. One is even more worst.
And I have just started my investigation.

Videoslots 25 %
Ultra Partners 25 %
BitStarz 25 %
Alpha Affiliates 30%!!!

In some months the admin fee percentages at some programs are higher than the percentages of their revenue share.

This is outrageous.

And I will see and hear the voices of those who will defend it to argue it.
Everyone is welcome to do this with me.

Leopold

 

[casinonewbie]

Zillions of fees and then at the end 25 % rip-off fee on the top!

There is nothing that affiliates have not been paying for and continue paying for in spades at this program. The owner and his puppet AM's have been scamming affiliates at this operation for years. Videoslots affiliates has ZERO transparency regards commission earnings. ....They have really painted themselves into a corner now and the program is exposed for what it actually is..........ONE BIG CON.

 

[CL-Ed]

Roulette Zeitung you're about 8 years too late. This is no new discovery, it has been pissing me off for years and it was why I suggested to AGD to start doing these audits after the site was sold, so they could actually provide something genuinely useful to affiliates instead of just leeching off them ala GPWA.

From what I recall, the Scandinavian Net Entertainment focused affiliate programs started this a long time ago. The likes of Betsson, Tower Gaming, Mr Green, Cherry, VeraJohn etc were taking 20-30% off the top when they launched. Look them up and see how long ago that was.

Over time every new affiliate program has latched onto this false advertising as a standard way of doing business. Most of them don't even disclose the specific fees in their terms. It's good you are outraged, we all should be. But it's a bit late now to act like it's all a big surprise and you're going to investigate and reveal all this stuff. It's done. The horse has well and truly bolted. If anyone has missed this they have not been paying attention. The best we can do is shine some light on the many shady programs in this dodgy industry and warn affiliates when they are being ripped off.

 

[Roulette Zeitung]

"Roulette Zeitung you're about 8 years too late."
It's never too late to resist.

"This is no new discovery"
I know, but obviously the usual tactics in this industry failed, unfortunately at the end only clickbait stories, in the spotlight for some weeks and then dissapearing forever ... as usual.

People, who know me, they know, without giving up I am fighting things not for one or two weeks but for years if nessecary, without absolutely no advantage for my person, on the contrary, so I am doing this not for me, and fortunately, I do not need the money from this industry.

And this is the reason, why I can focus on only one, maximum two matters at the same time. Hello?! I am an old guy, need two different eyeglasses in the meantime, and I chased almost alone after e.g. Buffalo for more than a half year until the Casino City Management finally terminated the sponsorship, because there was no other choice and my nuclear resistance over so a long period of time - with censorship incident! - obviously had an influence at the end.

Resistance is a full time job. I can tell you that. And again: I have absolute no benefit from it. Nothing! Absolute nothing!

"I suggested to AGD to start doing these audits after the site was sold, so they could actually provide something genuinely useful to affiliates"

Does this also applies to sponsors? I mean, Ultra Partners has also a 25% admin fee rip-off scheme, and after what happened yesterday on GPWA in the Ultra Bet sponsor area, I am more convinced than ever, that my method, the nuclear resistance, works in the long run.

It was a total disaster for the Ultra Bet representative.

And Thursday my Anti-Trailer for Videoslots will be published.
They deserve it, because this collection of fees are really insane.

Leopold

 

[Niklas]

Interesting reading, im currently working with them

 

[Roulette Zeitung]

 

[Roulette Zeitung]

The so called affiliate leader of Video Slots or shall I better say the mouth-puppet of some rip-off artists disappeared from the public stage. Either he was backroomed at last conference or he is hiding in his garage, the "office", still calling the 1-900 psychic the whole day to gain timely inside, when he will be fired finally.

Since 1. January 2019 something strange happened with Videoslots. Many people, I am not talking about isolated cases, many gamblers are claiming, that since that day things are going worst for them as if that casino if obsessed by a demon at once.

You can call it conspiracy theory, but what, if it's not?

One thing is certain: The affiliate leader is the embodiment of the "Pauli Effect". Whichever program he haunts, all of them are in trouble sooner or later.

Leopold

 

[bonustreak]

Personally, I would not be so mean towards Miles, he is just the manager and doing what the owner is telling him. Blame the owner not Miles. IMO