Vegas Affiliates

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    bb1webs

    bb1webs Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Yes if this is retro then I'll have no choice but to blacklist them.

    I run a place that may not be pretty, may not always even be uniform but one thing you can count on is that I'll have honorable casinos listed.

    Now just how am I to go forward and not blacklist casinos which are using blackmail of earnings already achieved?

    Or am I suppose to just over look the fact that the casinos are not honoring their word ... something that is a guaranteed loser for an entity in the business of gambling which I remind is based on keeping your word ... paying your debts ... that's why people go to casinos instead of just meeting up on the street corner ... they're guaranteed to get paid (okay on line not so much but the spirit of the endeavor still remains)


    VA if you go forward with making this predatory term a retro one ... you are welchers. Is there a worse word in the business of gambling?
     
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    Engineer

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    VA's casinos convert very well for me, and I'd really like to start promoting them again. But if I can't trust them, I don't see how that will be possible.

    VA, where were you 4 years ago when Fortune Affiliates, Vegas Partner, and Referback attempted to change their T&Cs retroactively?

    There was a huge backlash, and eventually they agreed to NOT make the changes retroactive. The new T&Cs were applied to new affiliates only, while the existing T&Cs remained in effect for the existing affiliates. Ethically and legally, that was the best solution.

    Please, call up the CEOs at Fortune, Referback, and Vegas Partner (now called Star Partner) and talk to them about this before you make a decision about this very important issue.
     
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    vegas.aff

    vegas.aff Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Hi,

    All affiliate commissions were paid out for April and May, please keep in mind that commissions need to reach the minimum payout amount of 200. Those of you who have queries regarding missing payments, most of the time this is the case, you can always check with me through email on info at vegasaffiliates com
     
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    dominique

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    I submitted a query there just last week and got no reply... Can you please contact me via PM so we can get this sorted?
     
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    vegas.aff

    vegas.aff Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    can i ahve your login details please?
    Thanks
     
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    dominique

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    Not publicly, lol! I'll PM you.
     
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    WCD Admin

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    I personally am ready for a final answer on this, or I'm moving the company to the rogue section on our site for threatening to alter our contract. The fact that we have to sit and wait for an answer is enough to piss me off this morning. Vegas Affiliates: why not deal with this instead of making bad feelings? I don't like waiting to find out whether or not you plan to screw us. Mentioning it was bad enough. Haven't you been hemming and hawing for like a month now? :mad:
     
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    vegas.aff

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    Hi Everyone,

    We will let you know as soon as the terms and conditions have been confirmed and will be taking effect. In the meantime if there is anything else you need, please contact me

    Info (at )vegasaffiliates com
    Skype- vegas.aff
    MSN- danielabalzan at msn com

    Thanks
    Daniela
     
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    bb1webs

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    Hi again all,

    They didn't necessarily convert well for me but they had excellent retention which makes this predatory "enjoy 10% for 1 year" clause a very unnattractive proposal.

    For me ... VA ... used to be one program I wanted long term players to be introduced because put the two together and the results should be a long ride.

    I imagine I'm not the only one that thought that way and as such ... combined with the promise of lifetime residuals ... not 1 year ... we feel anything retro is really wrong and while I'm going to probably lose more money campaigning for blacklisting ... than I make every month with VA ... that is what I"ll do.

    It is very simple. You can't change the rules in the middle of the game and that's what VA is trying to do.
     
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    greek39

    greek39 Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Carried VA for about six months then tossed them. Too many affiliate complaints regarding payments and spammish stats. I did have a small player base but insisted the account be closed. Suppose I figured the time it took babysitting VA I could be doing other things.

    greek39
     
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    bonustreak

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    I am not sure I care for these short canned responses from VA and I totally understand your just passing along what your told to say but please tell the bosses that we need answers asap!
     
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    WCD Admin

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    Those who are blacklisting this group , let me know. I would appreciate links to my rogue pages for this group. Currently we rank #1 for Grand Hotel Casino, and #4 for Colosseum Casino. I can't wait till Google sees our new titles. You'd think I earned some money with this group, but you'd be wrong. Interestingly enough at one point they were paying me 12k a month (Flat media) to be listed.... when they stopped and i put up an affiliate link, you'd think I earned something to justify that kind of spend for well over a year... in fact my relationship with them was probably 2-3 years, with 3 media buyers. now how come I made peanuts with the affiliate program ....

    http://online.worldcasinodirectory.com/grand-hotel
    http://online.worldcasinodirectory.com/colosseum-casino
    http://online.worldcasinodirectory.com/vegas-slot-casino

    Online Rogue (blacklisted) Casinos

    I would like to partner with some folks - please PM me your ideas.
    I'd like to push that Colosseum up to the #1 spot, too.

    B
     
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    bb1webs

    bb1webs Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    here's a link to the page which will have some of my blacklistings on it and I'll get wth you on more B.


    blacklisting Vegas Country ... each casino name needs boldly pointed out and made to remember

    we talked abou this before ... we need more than the same usuals to help carry the torch. folks lose little now ... lose big later.

    if you think there's a third choice which is better than those two ... i'd love to hear the reasoning.


    .... that said ... if you got a lot tied up in them and find yourself in a tight spot ... given a little time I can probably arrange a player sign up for you to prevent loss of income. contact me at gap if its time sensitive though I'm trying to become a staple here :).

    but if you're only losing a little .. don't let it become bigger ... cut losses now!
     
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    WCD Admin

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    I linked up to your page there Steve from our main bad casino page. Bring it on folks.... let the games begin.

    -B
     
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    bb1webs

    bb1webs Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    My insider tells me they've shown very little interest in showing affs any kind of respect ... to speak lightly of the words said to me. I'd really like to repeat them but gave my word I'd keep my source a secret.

    Not trying to be a downer but that's why I've had little truck with any idea of coming to a decent resolution. If not for that I'd be speaking in a much more optimistic tone about this matter.
     
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    bb1webs

    bb1webs Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Bernie you'll have to periodically remind me what's best for the situation at hand as I'm flakey about such things ... meaning if i need to link to a page that I haven't ... holler ... I usually get it after a 2nd (or 3rd ..sigh) push.

    You all should know by now not to be shy with me. Only way you'll hurt my feelings is to kick my dog, a tap upside the head is often merited. :)
     
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    vegas.aff

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    Dear Partners,

    In light of recent forum postings regarding new terms and conditions
    the Vegas Affiliates team would like to clarify our position.
    There was never any intent on withholding payments to any of our
    esteemed partners. Our aim was merely to initiate dialogue with existing
    partners who were not actively marketing. While many options were
    considered, this was not one that would have been implemented and should
    not have been announced nor seriously considered. Unfortunately this may
    have been down to miscommunication of program changes before they were
    finalized.
    Our goal has always been to provide the best possible service to all of
    our partners, a policy that the Vegas brand prides itself on having
    built on over all our years in the business, and we will continue to do
    so. We apologize if anyone feels that we would act against the best
    interest of our partners and would like to personally clarify any such
    misunderstanding.
    Should anyone require any further information, please feel free to
    contact me personally.


    Sebastian Debono
    Head of Affiliates
    Vegas Affiliates
     
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    dominique

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    Well, all right. I am happy you reconsidered.

    I hope you see now that it is a lot better to have a good look at sites you would like to be represented on, and contact the affiliate with suggestions and offers.

    May I suggest that you get a bit more proactive, I think a lot of what has been happening may have been due to a reactive affiliate manager.

    I know it is the case with me, CR, Fortune, wagershare, brightshare and referback all receive some quality non US players from my site...

    I am glad you are not implementing these retroactive changes, your casinos have always done well by me and I hope to see it continue and get even better.
     
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    That is great news VA! I am glad to hear that you have listened to your partners and I agree with Dom here. Take a pro-active approach and you will be much better for it.
     

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