Sad Day for the GPWA Forums

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    Shay

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    I'd be very interested in reading it.
     
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    slotplayer

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    I don't think anyone is offended.
     
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    DaftDog

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    Whether you like the GPWA management style or not I still feel it is a great place to post your opinion about any subject you want and to reach a wide audience of respected people in the gaming industry.

    You may feel let down by their lack of action on some matters and rightly so. No organisation is perfect. Personally I feel the good aspects of the GPWA forums far out-way the bad and therefore I will continue to visit and post their. I try hard not to hold grudges as it is a waste of energy.

    My intent was not to create a GPWA bashing thread but rather to vent my frustration at their handling of my "tongue-in-cheek" thread I mentioned in my first post here.

    Let's not burn bridges, as two independent forums are better than one. :)
     
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    AidanLCFC

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    I told them to delete my account, completely but they just removed private membership, probably so they can still spam me
     
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    NoLuckNeeded

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    There is a huge difference between "not being perfect" and claiming to be an affiliate watchdog while handing out seals to anyone who will pay the fee. If you want to affect change in the industry support sites like AGD who actually do something to protect affiliates.
     
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    DaftDog

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    I don't see where they claim to be an affiliate watchdog but I did find this:

    Members don't have to pay for a GPWA seal but affiliate programs do have to pay to be listed there. I don't think they deny this. They are after all just a business just like us.
     
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    NoLuckNeeded

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    That's a very good point and I appreciate the information. I have not been to the site in a decade. My opinion is tainted due to the fact that as a newbie I promoted prominent site approved brands that later screwed me over quite hard. I still get emails from their sponsors who I know to be shady.

    I am glad they got your account situation worked out. I am sure it was just a misunderstanding.
     
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    Biti

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    They have a code of conduct for both affiliates and affiliate programs. If you have such a code, you should use it. Just my 2 cents.

    No flame intended, but if a brand has a GPWA-seal, it's a sign to me that I have to take double care.
     
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    slotplayer

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    I don't really get the complaints.
     
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    slotplayer

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    I've Googled for their rate card a couple of years ago. I saw the sponsor rates.
     
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    falseadoom

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    Funny thing is they accept any affiliate program, yet make it very hard on affiliate to join unless they list every darn domain they own (related to gambling or not)
     
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    AussieDave

    AussieDave 17 years & still going!

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    I like chocolate ice cream, while others, may enjoy strawberry. Both are debatable opinions.

    On the other hand, some aspects of the GPWA's chosen conduct, is divergent to the stance they would have affiliate believe. Lets take an extract from their meta description:
    with reputable online casinos and gambling sites

    Reputable means:
    Having a good reputation and able to be trusted.

    GPWA Aff Seal extract:
    They don't plagiarize the work of others and they don't spam.

    And lastly, Code of Conduct for Sponsors:
    gpwa.org/sponsor/codeofconduct

    Reiterating, GPWA affiliates are held accountable for their actions. Yet, sponsors, who should be held to a higher standard of integrity, honesty and reputation (noting the Code of Conduct), are permitted to do practically anything they like, even participate/be associated with illegal/criminal acts... I honestly can not comprehend, how woefully dodgy choices like these, can be set aside, and in the same breath, say the GPWA is beneficial to affiliates.

    Aside from a means for affiliates to mingle with each other, and keep abreast of the latest rogue program (which btw) is usually still a GPWA sponsor, there's not much there, that is not here at AGD. Least here, the powers that be listen, and rogue programs eventually get thrown in the Doghouse.
     
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    Guard Dog

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    Just read through that entire debaucle. We certainly have had our share of spammers that get through and terrorize AGD for a night or maybe a couple of nights at times. We have a nice little button in XenForo (forum software) that bans them (IP, username, sends to StopForumSpam and others) and removes their posts. I know spam isn't the complete issue everyone is having - but it is something that, when I see, I have to try to decide if they are just not smart in their posts... don't know the language... or are trying to get enough posts for a link.

    Usually it is the last option. However, at AGD as I think most know, it is a manual intervention to allow links. That may help deter wanna-be-spammers as well.

    Regardless, I agree that multiple forums are best. No one should have all the power.. it would eventually get abused, IMO. It is the reason that I set up a certification team as well (to vote on terms) - no unilateral decisions. Doesn't make us perfect or any better than another, IMO. Just a decision made when setting up AGD in 2006.

    Carry on and please don't roast them too hard!
     
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    DaftDog

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    I regret making this post as I have now lost all respect for GPWA.

    I've just seen their Recognition for September's Active Members thread and it just goes to prove that you spam the crap out of their forum with crappy posts like: "Hello Username, how are you today. :) I hope you are well. Yes I agree with you 100%. Take care. " and get to position three on this list of theirs.

    What a fnukcig joke.
     
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    Frank

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    I really just wanted to reply "Kind thanks for your comment hope you have a good day" but then realised I didn't want to dilute this thread with worthless replies
     
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    Biti

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    Uhm, does it matter for that link if you're 3rd on the list or the last one? He could have made it with fewer posts. He doesn't look like a spammer.
     
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    DaftDog

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    Yes, I think it does definitely matter. This member was actually striving for the GPWA home page link. If you read this entire thread and the thread I linked to in my first post, then you'll understand what I am on about. You'll also then see that I am not the only member here, or at the GPWA, who feels that this person is spamming the forums with numerous nonsensical posts.
     
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    Biti

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    Agree that a homepage link is different than a link in the thread, but if he wanted to achieve that, he could easily post some more I guess. I mean, making 10 posts a day cost you 5 minutes perhaps.
     
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    AidanLCFC

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    Don't forget the meaningless "congrats" posts in that thread, really, you need to congratulate someone for posting on a forum
     
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    KasinoKing

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    Good point - congratulations! ;)

    KK
     
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