Sad Day for the GPWA Forums

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    DaftDog

    DaftDog Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Anthony has restored all my privileges over at the GPWA and has spoken to the "member" concerned about the style of their posts. Hopefully this "spammer" issue has now been resolved.

    It should also be pointed out that the person who is at the centre of all this also has membership here at AGD, under a different username though.
     
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    gobo

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    Is the person who you are referring to the guy that writes posts all the time that makes absolutely no sense at all?
     
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    DaftDog

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    Yes. His avatar here is of a famous young, but now deceased, rock star playing his guitar.
     
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    I still can't believe they have not said anything of merit on Sky Bet and tried to fight affiliates corner. Thought that's what they were there for. I don't think anyone has even made a comment on the thread!
     
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    TheGooner

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    The GPWA is a US based organisation, that has to deal with UIGEA and unlicensed and untouchable programs using tinpot licenses in dodgy jurisdictions.
    It's doubtful that they have ANY experience in taking a class action on a gambling matter to a UK court - or anywhere

    Apologies to anyone offended by that statement (operators, GPWA staff, affiliates and Americans) ... i know it's a huge generalization ...
    But the US approach to online gaming is a basket case (nah, nah, nah pretend it's not there ) ... and there is little legal precedence or procedure to share.

    This is why the fledgling UK affiliate group (which is very, very quiet - stillborn?) mentioned at the GPWA thread may become a very useful resource if it gets established.
     
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    I didn't quite mean for them to take action on affiliates behalf, just something about it other than a poll would be nice.
     
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    AussieDave

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    @TheGooner - Lets be brutally honest here, the GPWA accepts just about any gambling sponsor who ponies up with cash. Yet, it's supposed to be an association which protects the interest of its members. The two couldn't be further apart, even if they tried. Reverting back to sponsorship's, it would seem, little to no auditing is conducted on said paid sponsors. Reiterating, as long as they can pay the fee, that seems to be the only governing prerequisite at the GPWA.

    Regardless of where they're based, their protocols for checking sponsor's, at the very least, hold a severe lack of Duty of Care.

    Lets take the "hacker" topic as an example. I believe it took two plus (2+) years for them to finally drop BP. Even though, there was literally oodles of factual, hard proven facts that BP were working with the "hacker". Naivety is one thing, but that buck doesn't stop at the feet of the GPWA. With all that proof, they continued to support, and essentially give ongoing credence to criminal activities, by one of their sponsor's.

    I could cite many other instances where, paid sponsor programs, are given carte blanche. I've lost count to how many wayward sponsor programs have breached the GPWA sponsor T&C's, yet nothing happens. The only time the GPWA seems to care, is when a paid sponsor reneges on their payment of fee(s). They're dropped pretty damn quickly then :rolleyes:

    Anyway, I agree the UK affiliate group (being spearhead by a number of Super Affiliates), seems like we (affiliates) could finally have a bona fide association who genuinely will put affiliate's and members welfare first and foremost. As apposed to using members as cannon fodder, (numbers) to increase their bank balance and alike.
     
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    gobo

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    It is weird for GPWA to live off the income from sponsors while trying to represent affiliates. IMO it would have been better if affiliates paid some kind of membership fee every year or something, and that GPWA would truly represent and fight alongside affiliates and our interests.
     
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    Other than the fact that there are no apostrophes in plurals, this is one of the best posts I've ever read. Kudos.
     
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    Shay

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    The problem with this is that I personally would not pay a penny for membership to GPWA. GPWA were quick to cry foul when Foxy pulled their crap. I suspect this is because they had significant business with Foxy. Yet, not a peep when Sky pulled a very similar stunt. So I guess it boils down to they will cry and perhaps fight if their income is impacted but they can't be bothered if it is just yours or mine.
     
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    Evil Homer

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    It's pretty obvious they don't give a shit for the welfare of affiliates. They are not an association, they are simply a forum. They provide a facility for people to air their views, but zero practical help or support, and it will ever be thus. The only way this *may* change is is influential members (eg Shay, Wonderpunter) migrate elsewhere (eg here) permanently. Then they'll just be left with people like vtyssdgigsd wishing everyone a peaceful day.
     
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    Perhaps they didn't even drop Buffalo. Maybe it was just the end of the sponsorship term. The list can be longer: Condor Affiliates, for example, is protected. Why? It's a completely useless and dodgy casino / affiliate program. Also 1xbet is quite s shame.
     
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    good to see everyone still not posting on there :(
     
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    Shay

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    1 October will begin my boycott.
     
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    I hope others will follow suit, the frequent posters Roulette Zeitung etc
    We just do not need programs sponsors like Income Access, Coral and the likes to give us a hard time !
     
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    I'd just like to wish everyone a peaceful day. I'd also like to suggest a new thread title of "A Sad Decade for GPWA forums". The fact that anyone has taken that site seriously in the last 10 years is laughable.
     
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    AussieDave

    AussieDave 17 years & still going!

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    Thank you :)

    With regard to the punctuation, never been my strong point. More so, its always been my Achilles' heel, the weak link in my wordsmith skills.
     
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    AussieDave

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    @thebookiesoffers - I noticed you requested your Private GPWA membership to be terminated. Did they action that request for you?

    I only ask because for years after being kicked out, they had no qualms using my email addy for promotional emails from their sponsors. Hence, my personal data was obviously not deleted on my private membership termination.
     
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    I must say here also that a forum usually get the sponsors it deserves... Many affiliates around there are promoting the most dodgy brands. One week they're complaining a casino is 4 or 5 months behind, the other weet it's again an awesome brand, legit and very fast payments.
     
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    AussieDave

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    While I'm on a roll...
    There was paper commissioned by an anti USA gambling entity sometime back in 2006 (?), which identified a number of key people in the industry. They coined that group, the 'Online Gambling Cartel'. Members of the elite group were people such as, Corfman, Caselli (IGB), Dominique and others.

    I usually have all manner of backups, so if I can find that PDF (on a backup HDD) I'll throw it up on a server, so people can read it.

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    This is probably why some people have been hell bent on trying to discredit me for years. I've got a memory like an elephant, especially on all the dodgy shit that's gone down (but been swept under the carpet) in this industry.
     
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