Therefore it is necessary to make rival behave like that because this will be the preferable option to destruction.
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Therefore it is necessary to make rival behave like that because this will be the preferable option to destruction.
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Please lets try to keep this thread on the topic of Rival brands.
Some tactic advice (that is i hope on topic):
What neither the industry nor the affiliates are necessarily aware of is that the every outfit that recruits their customers mainly over the internet is far more dependent on the affiliates than the other way round because they can control the public opinion easily. If this could be proven the cheating of affiliates would stop because it would be too dangerous to mess around with them and they could be quite useful for many other things too...
So if there is a problem like here with rival the first step is of course taking down the banners and stop sending them the traffic. Since not everyone will be willing to do that some activists must appear on the scene that constantly keep the collaborateurs under pressure via whatever means they like and therefore aim to stop to send any traffic in the end. For psychological reasons it is quite useful to keep a handful of examples of the desired behaviour alive - like slotoscash - to make the other rivals aware what is expected from them.
When the first casinos start to give in or spell threats it is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL to intensify the pressure to the maximum of the available means even if an agreement could be already reached at this stage and all the sheep's instincts tell that this is the right thing to do because due to psychological reasons you will get for that what you have done above a knife in the back whenever an opportunity should arise. This is not going to happen once the opposite side realizes that it is completely at the mercy of the aff community so the way to go is to get them there.
This can be accomoplished via manipulating the public opinion with for everyone visible warnings (do not to play in rival casino because of this and that and preferably financial troubles) on the websites and especially constant propaganda activity on all available internet gambling forums. Considering the size and the diversion of the aff community this isn't really much of a work but has to be done very consistently to be effective. For this reason it is necessary that quite a few activists hang into it and constantly pressure the lazy and the collaborateurs and keep therefore the momentum alive.
If this is executed properly the rivals have ZERO chance to stay alive because the tactic above targets the existing customer base and no matter whatever they may come up with if they don't get new players via the aff route and their existing customer base is constantly under fire the amount of people playing there will dwindle to negligible amounts.
The aim here is not to crush out casinos but resolve the issue at hand without having to fear that a revolt is going to happen and go even further and try to change rival's company policies so they stop to produce crap casinos like on a assembly line.
This is only going to happen if all the parties involved have some life changing experience and this can be accomplished by getting all of them to the brink (and beyond) bankrupcy and then release the pressure. So the best thing here is to wait until 3-4 rivals go belly up because this will make sure that the rest and the software company will have an experience they'll never forget and initiate the desired process. The essential thing here is no matter what they say or not say to uphold the pressure until this is going to happen.
If a operation like this is successful i am quite sure the GP issue could be resolved without the use of force and due to a shift of power something like that would be very unlikely to arise in the future.
But far more important is that an organized aff community is in the position to effectively pressure all the cowboy outfits and get them out of business should it become necessary.
The question here is if the sheep wins and stops this kind of process after a handful of visible successes (and gets kicked in the ass later on - that is sure) or the anti-sheep and goes with this process to the end.
Depending on the outcome the position of the affs in the industy will either get worse or way better and this is the real issue here.
I hope the stuff written here makes sense and is not to esoteric...
What neither the industry nor the affiliates are necessarily aware of is that the every outfit that recruits their customers mainly over the internet is far more dependent on the affiliates than the other way round because they can control the public opinion easily. If this could be proven the cheating of affiliates would stop because it would be too dangerous to mess around with them and they could be quite useful for many other things too...
So if there is a problem like here with rival the first step is of course taking down the banners and stop sending them the traffic. Since not everyone will be willing to do that some activists must appear on the scene that constantly keep the collaborateurs under pressure via whatever means they like and therefore aim to stop to send any traffic in the end. For psychological reasons it is quite useful to keep a handful of examples of the desired behaviour alive - like slotoscash - to make the other rivals aware what is expected from them.
When the first casinos start to give in or spell threats it is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL to intensify the pressure to the maximum of the available means even if an agreement could be already reached at this stage and all the sheep's instincts tell that this is the right thing to do because due to psychological reasons you will get for that what you have done above a knife in the back whenever an opportunity should arise. This is not going to happen once the opposite side realizes that it is completely at the mercy of the aff community so the way to go is to get them there.
This can be accomoplished via manipulating the public opinion with for everyone visible warnings (do not to play in rival casino because of this and that and preferably financial troubles) on the websites and especially constant propaganda activity on all available internet gambling forums. Considering the size and the diversion of the aff community this isn't really much of a work but has to be done very consistently to be effective. For this reason it is necessary that quite a few activists hang into it and constantly pressure the lazy and the collaborateurs and keep therefore the momentum alive.
If this is executed properly the rivals have ZERO chance to stay alive because the tactic above targets the existing customer base and no matter whatever they may come up with if they don't get new players via the aff route and their existing customer base is constantly under fire the amount of people playing there will dwindle to negligible amounts.
The aim here is not to crush out casinos but resolve the issue at hand without having to fear that a revolt is going to happen and go even further and try to change rival's company policies so they stop to produce crap casinos like on a assembly line.
This is only going to happen if all the parties involved have some life changing experience and this can be accomplished by getting all of them to the brink (and beyond) bankrupcy and then release the pressure. So the best thing here is to wait until 3-4 rivals go belly up because this will make sure that the rest and the software company will have an experience they'll never forget and initiate the desired process. The essential thing here is no matter what they say or not say to uphold the pressure until this is going to happen.
If a operation like this is successful i am quite sure the GP issue could be resolved without the use of force and due to a shift of power something like that would be very unlikely to arise in the future.
But far more important is that an organized aff community is in the position to effectively pressure all the cowboy outfits and get them out of business should it become necessary.
The question here is if the sheep wins and stops this kind of process after a handful of visible successes (and gets kicked in the ass later on - that is sure) or the anti-sheep and goes with this process to the end.
Depending on the outcome the position of the affs in the industy will either get worse or way better and this is the real issue here.
I hope the stuff written here makes sense and is not to esoteric...
It appears as though most Rival programs have decided to refund progressive fees from March 01, 2009 to February 28th, 2010. Does anyone know where they got their starting date from? Can anyone confirm that March 01, 2009 is when they started deducting these fees and deductions did not happen prior to this date? I believe they had progressive games in place prior to this date (although I am not 100% certain).
Anyhow, here is what we have learned so far (broken down by group):
400 Affiliates
Issue #1 - Progressive Fees: Refunding All Fees From March 01, 2009 to Feb 28th, 2010. No decision on how they will be handling fees from March 2010 onward.
My Take: It's great that they are refunding the progressive fees. This is the right thing to do and I am glad they have realized that. I am still concerned about how they will handle the fees going forward. If they choose to charge the affiliates these fees on players they have sent prior to March 2010 then it is still a retroactive change and that is not acceptable.
Issue #2 - Mastercard Funds Confiscation: No comments/updates on this subject that I am aware of.
My Take: Unless they take full responsibility for their own processor issues and pay their affiliates their commissions on any "lost deposits" due to processor seizures then I will not be promoting them.
Igaming.pro (Tradition Casino)
Issue #1 - Progressive Fees: Refunding All Fees From October 2009 to Feb 28th 2010. No decision on how they will be handling fees from March 2010 onward.
My Take: It's great that they are refunding the progressive fees. This is the right thing to do and I am glad they have realized that. I am still concerned about how they will handle the fees going forward. If they choose to charge the affiliates these fees on players they have sent prior to March 2010 then it is still a retroactive change and that is not acceptable.
Issue #2 - Mastercard Funds Confiscation: No comments/updates on this subject that I am aware of.
My Take: Unless they take full responsibility for their own processor issues and pay their affiliates their commissions on any "lost deposits" due to processor seizures then I will not be promoting them.
Spin Time Partners
Issue #1 - Progressive Fees: This is what Spin Time has to say with regards to their progressive fees:
At SpinTime Partners, our calculations are as follows : bets - win - promo/bonus -charge back - progressive fees, so when your players win a jackpot and plays it back into the casino, affiliates will reap all their % rewards so this excludes us from the Affiliate Guard Dog thread.
Don't want to pay the Progressive Fees? We can do a change for you but when a player wins and plays back their jackpot winnings, you will not be awarded the commission.
My Take: I'm still a little confused on how their calculation benefits the affiliate and how it differs from any other Rival group. Can someone please help clarify this? Regardless, I appreciate that they are giving their affiliates some options here.
Issue #2 - Mastercard Funds Confiscation: Covering all Mastercard funds and not passing on any costs to affiliates.
My Take: This is exactly what every Rival group should be doing.
Superior Share
Issue #1 - Progressive Fees: Refunding All Fees From February 2009 until March 2010. No decision on how they will be handling fees from March 2010 onward.
My Take: It's great that they are refunding the progressive fees. This is the right thing to do and I am glad they have realized that. I am still concerned about how they will handle the fees going forward. If they choose to charge the affiliates these fees on players they have sent prior to March 2010 then it is still a retroactive change and that is not acceptable.
Issue #2 - Mastercard Funds Confiscation: They appear to be going forward with passing off this cost onto their affiliates. They are offering 10% extra on NEW signups from April-June for the affiliates who were affected by the Mastercard issue.
My Take: This is exactly what every Rival group SHOULD NOT be doing. Affiliates should not be paying for their processor issues. It's insulting that a program is pushing these costs onto their affiliates and then trying to sound like they are doing us a favor by offering extra commission for a few months.
Sloto'Cash
Issue #1 - Progressive Fees: Affiliates Do Not Incur These Fees From Sloto.
My Take: Fantastic
Issue #2 - Mastercard Funds Confiscation: Sloto has their own processing and is not affected by the Mastercard issue.
My Take: Fantastic
Affiliate Wide (Box24)
Issue #1 - Progressive Fees: Affiliates Do Not Incur These Fees From Affiliate Wide.
My Take: Fantastic
Issue #2 - Mastercard Funds Confiscation: Box24 has their own processing and is not affected by the Mastercard issue.
My Take: Fantastic
Royal Apollo
Issue #1 - Progressive Fees: Refunding All Fees From March 01, 2009 to Feb 28th, 2010. No decision on how they will be handling fees from March 2010 onward.
My Take: It's great that they are refunding the progressive fees. This is the right thing to do and I am glad they have realized that. I am still concerned about how they will handle the fees going forward. If they choose to charge the affiliates these fees on players they have sent prior to March 2010 then it is still a retroactive change and that is not acceptable.
Issue #2 - Mastercard Funds Confiscation: No comments/updates on this subject that I am aware of.
My Take: Unless they take full responsibility for their own processor issues and pay their affiliates their commissions on any "lost deposits" due to processor seizures then I will not be promoting them.
23 Partners (Planet23 Casino)
Issue #1 - Progressive Fees: This is what 23 Partners has to say with regards to their progressive fees:
Planet23 would like to inform you that the recent changes with Rival Gaming Progressive calculations will not effect our affiliates and all differences and deductions due to this change will be added to your affiliate account or will be paid directly to you via Planet23.
My Take: Fantastic!
Issue #2 - Mastercard Funds Confiscation: They pledge no deductions related to processor issues.
My Take: Perfect!
As of now, the above groups are the only ones that I am aware of that have made official statements. I expect we'll get more updates on Monday and throughout the week.
Anyhow, here is what we have learned so far (broken down by group):
400 Affiliates
Issue #1 - Progressive Fees: Refunding All Fees From March 01, 2009 to Feb 28th, 2010. No decision on how they will be handling fees from March 2010 onward.
My Take: It's great that they are refunding the progressive fees. This is the right thing to do and I am glad they have realized that. I am still concerned about how they will handle the fees going forward. If they choose to charge the affiliates these fees on players they have sent prior to March 2010 then it is still a retroactive change and that is not acceptable.
Issue #2 - Mastercard Funds Confiscation: No comments/updates on this subject that I am aware of.
My Take: Unless they take full responsibility for their own processor issues and pay their affiliates their commissions on any "lost deposits" due to processor seizures then I will not be promoting them.
Igaming.pro (Tradition Casino)
Issue #1 - Progressive Fees: Refunding All Fees From October 2009 to Feb 28th 2010. No decision on how they will be handling fees from March 2010 onward.
My Take: It's great that they are refunding the progressive fees. This is the right thing to do and I am glad they have realized that. I am still concerned about how they will handle the fees going forward. If they choose to charge the affiliates these fees on players they have sent prior to March 2010 then it is still a retroactive change and that is not acceptable.
Issue #2 - Mastercard Funds Confiscation: No comments/updates on this subject that I am aware of.
My Take: Unless they take full responsibility for their own processor issues and pay their affiliates their commissions on any "lost deposits" due to processor seizures then I will not be promoting them.
Spin Time Partners
Issue #1 - Progressive Fees: This is what Spin Time has to say with regards to their progressive fees:
At SpinTime Partners, our calculations are as follows : bets - win - promo/bonus -charge back - progressive fees, so when your players win a jackpot and plays it back into the casino, affiliates will reap all their % rewards so this excludes us from the Affiliate Guard Dog thread.
Don't want to pay the Progressive Fees? We can do a change for you but when a player wins and plays back their jackpot winnings, you will not be awarded the commission.
My Take: I'm still a little confused on how their calculation benefits the affiliate and how it differs from any other Rival group. Can someone please help clarify this? Regardless, I appreciate that they are giving their affiliates some options here.
Issue #2 - Mastercard Funds Confiscation: Covering all Mastercard funds and not passing on any costs to affiliates.
My Take: This is exactly what every Rival group should be doing.
Superior Share
Issue #1 - Progressive Fees: Refunding All Fees From February 2009 until March 2010. No decision on how they will be handling fees from March 2010 onward.
My Take: It's great that they are refunding the progressive fees. This is the right thing to do and I am glad they have realized that. I am still concerned about how they will handle the fees going forward. If they choose to charge the affiliates these fees on players they have sent prior to March 2010 then it is still a retroactive change and that is not acceptable.
Issue #2 - Mastercard Funds Confiscation: They appear to be going forward with passing off this cost onto their affiliates. They are offering 10% extra on NEW signups from April-June for the affiliates who were affected by the Mastercard issue.
My Take: This is exactly what every Rival group SHOULD NOT be doing. Affiliates should not be paying for their processor issues. It's insulting that a program is pushing these costs onto their affiliates and then trying to sound like they are doing us a favor by offering extra commission for a few months.
Sloto'Cash
Issue #1 - Progressive Fees: Affiliates Do Not Incur These Fees From Sloto.
My Take: Fantastic
Issue #2 - Mastercard Funds Confiscation: Sloto has their own processing and is not affected by the Mastercard issue.
My Take: Fantastic
Affiliate Wide (Box24)
Issue #1 - Progressive Fees: Affiliates Do Not Incur These Fees From Affiliate Wide.
My Take: Fantastic
Issue #2 - Mastercard Funds Confiscation: Box24 has their own processing and is not affected by the Mastercard issue.
My Take: Fantastic
Royal Apollo
Issue #1 - Progressive Fees: Refunding All Fees From March 01, 2009 to Feb 28th, 2010. No decision on how they will be handling fees from March 2010 onward.
My Take: It's great that they are refunding the progressive fees. This is the right thing to do and I am glad they have realized that. I am still concerned about how they will handle the fees going forward. If they choose to charge the affiliates these fees on players they have sent prior to March 2010 then it is still a retroactive change and that is not acceptable.
Issue #2 - Mastercard Funds Confiscation: No comments/updates on this subject that I am aware of.
My Take: Unless they take full responsibility for their own processor issues and pay their affiliates their commissions on any "lost deposits" due to processor seizures then I will not be promoting them.
23 Partners (Planet23 Casino)
Issue #1 - Progressive Fees: This is what 23 Partners has to say with regards to their progressive fees:
Planet23 would like to inform you that the recent changes with Rival Gaming Progressive calculations will not effect our affiliates and all differences and deductions due to this change will be added to your affiliate account or will be paid directly to you via Planet23.
My Take: Fantastic!
Issue #2 - Mastercard Funds Confiscation: They pledge no deductions related to processor issues.
My Take: Perfect!
As of now, the above groups are the only ones that I am aware of that have made official statements. I expect we'll get more updates on Monday and throughout the week.
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Great summary, NDN. Thanks for putting that together.
I don't know exactly when they started deducting progressive fees; however, I do know when each progressive jackpot was launched. On Rival Jackpots (a page on my site), I wrote that the first progressive slot was launched on September 23, 2008.
Anyone else getting the impression that Rival is dragging this out in hopes that we forget about it? I really thought we'd hear from more program by now.
I hope they realize that several affiliates (myself included) have had them off their sites for over a week now and they are losing traffic/players because of their slow response.
On a lighter note, I received this from Slots Of Fortune:
I am very glad to let you know, that I just joined SlotsofFortune, as Affiliate Manager. It's great to see, that you are already an affiliate of it!
I would have liked to renew my partnership with you in a different manner, rather than addressing the Progressive Jackpot contribution issue, however it's a very important matter, and I am discussing with the management the way it will be addressed.
I will be updating you on this issue, and in the meantime, please feel free to contact me with any SlotsofFortune of Rival question.
Again, I am very glad to find you here, and I am looking forward to chatting to you soon.
Best regards,
Natalie Stewart.
Now normally that wouldn't be much of an update, but I absolutely love Natalie and she will do anything she can to make sure her affiliates are happy. I'm very VERY pleased to see Natalie back in the game!
I hope they realize that several affiliates (myself included) have had them off their sites for over a week now and they are losing traffic/players because of their slow response.
On a lighter note, I received this from Slots Of Fortune:
I am very glad to let you know, that I just joined SlotsofFortune, as Affiliate Manager. It's great to see, that you are already an affiliate of it!
I would have liked to renew my partnership with you in a different manner, rather than addressing the Progressive Jackpot contribution issue, however it's a very important matter, and I am discussing with the management the way it will be addressed.
I will be updating you on this issue, and in the meantime, please feel free to contact me with any SlotsofFortune of Rival question.
Again, I am very glad to find you here, and I am looking forward to chatting to you soon.
Best regards,
Natalie Stewart.
Now normally that wouldn't be much of an update, but I absolutely love Natalie and she will do anything she can to make sure her affiliates are happy. I'm very VERY pleased to see Natalie back in the game!
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Rival is definitely dragging their feet. I am putting together a complete documentation of this issue and hope to post and send out a newsletter today.
Re: Natalie - I got a similar email and was happy to see Natalie take over. She is an awesome AM and they should be more than happy to have her.
Re: Natalie - I got a similar email and was happy to see Natalie take over. She is an awesome AM and they should be more than happy to have her.
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Royal Apollo
Issue #1 - Progressive Fees: Refunding All Fees From March 01, 2009 to Feb 28th, 2010. No decision on how they will be handling fees from March 2010 onward.
My Take: It's great that they are refunding the progressive fees. This is the right thing to do and I am glad they have realized that. I am still concerned about how they will handle the fees going forward. If they choose to charge the affiliates these fees on players they have sent prior to March 2010 then it is still a retroactive change and that is not acceptable.
Issue #2 - Mastercard Funds Confiscation: No comments/updates on this subject that I am aware of.
My Take: Unless they take full responsibility for their own processor issues and pay their affiliates their commissions on any "lost deposits" due to processor seizures then I will not be promoting them.
As of now, the above groups are the only ones that I am aware of that have made official statements. I expect we'll get more updates on Monday and throughout the week.[/QUOTE]
Hi,
Here is an update from Royal Apollo Affiliates on the latest issues:
1. Royal Apollo will NOT charge the affiliates fees on players they have sent prior to March 2010
2. Royal Apollo will take full responsibility for their processor issues and will pay affiliates their commissions on "lost deposits" due to latest processor seizures
I think this is fair and honest (as we always try to be and the affiliates that work with us can vouch for this).
I would like to see some of the affiliates that asked for this , get our banners back up
Thx
Michael
Issue #1 - Progressive Fees: Refunding All Fees From March 01, 2009 to Feb 28th, 2010. No decision on how they will be handling fees from March 2010 onward.
My Take: It's great that they are refunding the progressive fees. This is the right thing to do and I am glad they have realized that. I am still concerned about how they will handle the fees going forward. If they choose to charge the affiliates these fees on players they have sent prior to March 2010 then it is still a retroactive change and that is not acceptable.
Issue #2 - Mastercard Funds Confiscation: No comments/updates on this subject that I am aware of.
My Take: Unless they take full responsibility for their own processor issues and pay their affiliates their commissions on any "lost deposits" due to processor seizures then I will not be promoting them.
As of now, the above groups are the only ones that I am aware of that have made official statements. I expect we'll get more updates on Monday and throughout the week.[/QUOTE]
Hi,
Here is an update from Royal Apollo Affiliates on the latest issues:
1. Royal Apollo will NOT charge the affiliates fees on players they have sent prior to March 2010
2. Royal Apollo will take full responsibility for their processor issues and will pay affiliates their commissions on "lost deposits" due to latest processor seizures
I think this is fair and honest (as we always try to be and the affiliates that work with us can vouch for this).
I would like to see some of the affiliates that asked for this , get our banners back up
Thx
Michael
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Hi,
Here is an update from Royal Apollo Affiliates on the latest issues:
1. Royal Apollo will NOT charge the affiliates fees on players they have sent prior to March 2010
2. Royal Apollo will take full responsibility for their processor issues and will pay affiliates their commissions on "lost deposits" due to latest processor seizures
I think this is fair and honest (as we always try to be and the affiliates that work with us can vouch for this).
I would like to see some of the affiliates that asked for this , get our banners back up
Thx
Michael
Here is an update from Royal Apollo Affiliates on the latest issues:
1. Royal Apollo will NOT charge the affiliates fees on players they have sent prior to March 2010
2. Royal Apollo will take full responsibility for their processor issues and will pay affiliates their commissions on "lost deposits" due to latest processor seizures
I think this is fair and honest (as we always try to be and the affiliates that work with us can vouch for this).
I would like to see some of the affiliates that asked for this , get our banners back up
Thx
Michael
Fantastic news!
Have you made a decision on how you will handle progressive fees for players we send to you in the future?
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Not yet , as this is still being debated on how this will work (for all Rival WL , not just RA) , I can say it will be fair to everyone (fair i.e. make since to both operator and affiliate - both)
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Not all the 400 group is refunding progressives.
This is Vegas has just this morning informed me that they will tell me some time in the future what they are going to do about the progressives.
This is the entireity of the email I received this morning. (the names have been left out to protect the guilty...)
Over the last six months I have had a bunch of whales (5K a month in deposits or more, a couple over 10k) that were strictly progressive players at TIV... the way I figure it they(TIV) owe me in the mid five figure range over this progressive issue.
My cynical side is telling me that I will never see that money and that I should cut the final ties to TIV... But that cheese they are holding out to me(my money) is calling m name... lots0..... oh lots0 we miss you...
So I'll give them till the end of the week.
This is Vegas has just this morning informed me that they will tell me some time in the future what they are going to do about the progressives.
This is the entireity of the email I received this morning. (the names have been left out to protect the guilty...)
Over the last six months I have had a bunch of whales (5K a month in deposits or more, a couple over 10k) that were strictly progressive players at TIV... the way I figure it they(TIV) owe me in the mid five figure range over this progressive issue.
My cynical side is telling me that I will never see that money and that I should cut the final ties to TIV... But that cheese they are holding out to me(my money) is calling m name... lots0..... oh lots0 we miss you...
So I'll give them till the end of the week.
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This debate is taking way to long IMO.
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Oh ya as far as Rival goes... They took the easy way out, shoving the responsibility on to the casino management (them in most cases).
I don't like the way RIVAL has handled this entire situation. It seems to me they were so busy bobbing and weaving trying to avoid having to make a decision, that they totally blew it.
I can tell you one thing, I'll NEVER again trust RIVAL to do the right thing.
I really don't know if I will blacklist RIVAL for these actions. After all they are acting just like the other software suppliers have in the past and I didn't blacklist any of them.
Maybe I should start a Grey list of programs you trust at your own risk... You know the type, programs that look honest and trustworthy when things are going good, but will screw you as soon as things get a little tough or real money is involved.
I don't like the way RIVAL has handled this entire situation. It seems to me they were so busy bobbing and weaving trying to avoid having to make a decision, that they totally blew it.
I can tell you one thing, I'll NEVER again trust RIVAL to do the right thing.
I really don't know if I will blacklist RIVAL for these actions. After all they are acting just like the other software suppliers have in the past and I didn't blacklist any of them.
Maybe I should start a Grey list of programs you trust at your own risk... You know the type, programs that look honest and trustworthy when things are going good, but will screw you as soon as things get a little tough or real money is involved.
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Regal Affiliates will not charge affiliates for progressive contributions past or future. All past deductions will be refunded.
Furthermore, we will NOT charge affiliates for MasterCard Processing losses. To see my full statement, please check the link below:
https:// www. affiliateguarddog. com/forums/vegas-regal-casino-official-reply-progressives-mastercard-processor-losses-t2404.html#post13829
Kind Regards,
Nicolas Johnson
Regal Affiliates Manager
Furthermore, we will NOT charge affiliates for MasterCard Processing losses. To see my full statement, please check the link below:
https:// www. affiliateguarddog. com/forums/vegas-regal-casino-official-reply-progressives-mastercard-processor-losses-t2404.html#post13829
Kind Regards,
Nicolas Johnson
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List updated with Regal in the right place Thanks Nicholas!!!
Thanks Nicholas!!!
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List updated with Pantasia's email response.
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