Club World Group Blocking Players - now ROGUE at CM!

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[KasinoKing]

It could end up being a blessing in disguise.

What could?
And why?

KK

 

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[slotplayer]

What could?
And why?

KK

Because of the NCO. I had winners every month of 2015 and 9 out of 12 months in 2013 and 2016. 7 out of 12 months in 2014.

2013 earned about $7k less compared to another RTG for nearly same deposit amount.
2014 earned about $10k less compared to RTG for nearly same deposit amount.

Back in my mind I knew I had to do something with them, now the decision has been made for me.

 

[KasinoKing]

Because of the NCO. I had winners every month of 2015 and 9 out of 12 months in 2013 and 2016. 7 out of 12 months in 2014.

2013 earned about $7k less compared to another RTG for nearly same deposit amount.
2014 earned about $10k less compared to RTG for nearly same deposit amount.

Back in my mind I knew I had to do something with them, now the decision has been made for me.

OK - gotcha!

Yeah - I was in the same boat - I had a big note next to this group for literally years, asking myself if I should dump them over the NCO thing.
A few of their casinos were in the red for YEARS: e.g. High Noon was in the red for 26 months in a row! And Club World Casino in the red from Aug 2012 to June 2015 (35 months)

I really only kept them on my sites because they were highly reputable and a good choice for players - I would have made a LOT more income if the players I referred there had gone to different RTG casinos.
It's still very sad though - there were really good guys working there until this take-over

KK

 

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[LandofOz]

Just received the following email from Affiliate Edge Management.

Since November 2016, the company has undergone a rapid transformation due to the following factors:-

1. After over 2 years of intense litigation between the directors of the business the existing CEO resigned without notice throwing the business into turmoil. The CEO was found to be in breach of his fiduciary duties, branded a liar and dishonest by a High Court Judge.

2. His plan was to inflict maximum damage on the business in the shortest time in order for the other 2 Directors to call him back into the business to sort the problems out.

3. Senior staff handed in their notice, the finance director walked out within a week. The accounts manager left before Xmas. The CTO actually undermined the business by sending an extremely harmful email to our software supplier. He actually said the only way this business will survive is to bring back the CEO. In the short time the CTO was there, he encouraged staff underneath him to look for other jobs because he said the company won't be around in the new year.

4. Payment Processors held back payments to the business for weeks and in some cases months, starving the company of cash.

5. Forums started to spread malicious gossip about what was going on in the business.

6. Valuable bank accounts were shut with very little notice causing many difficulties which have led to a lot of payment problems.

All the above problems were deliberately staged to cause maximum damage to the business.

However, the existing Directors brought in a team of consultants to save the business from disaster in early December. Their role was not to disrupt the daily running of the business but to help maintain staff confidence. Their primary aim was to get the payment processors functioning. I am pleased to report that they are now functioning as normal. Marketing was left alone. Affiliates could have lost millions in revenue if it wasn't for the action of the consultants.

Disappointingly, most of the senior staff have now left. Their positions have now been filled by juniors who have stepped up and are doing an excellent job.

1. The business is now flourishing and has had excellent results over the past 3 months.

2. Affiliates are now being paid earlier than ever in the company's history and will continue to do so.

3. The existing staff are loyal and are more confident than ever that their future is secure.

4. A handful of affiliates have asked about issues, some of them being payment issues due to closure of accounts. Other issues have been inherited and will be resolved.

There are positive plans for the future which is looking very rosy and we hope to share them with our partners asap. This company will be around for many years and will continue to grow and all our partners will prosper from the changes that will be implemented. We intend to speak to all our affiliates on an individual basis in the near future.

The Executive of CWC

 

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[onlinecasinoscloud1]

I also received this message a few minutes ago.

 

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[DaftDog]

So it appears a good company will go belly-up because of extreme differences amongst the directors, or rather, brothers. Such pettiness is going to negatively affect heaps of affiliates and employees, rather sad.

 

[Webzcas]

Regardless of the internal dispute and litigation. The fact remains the remaining directors employed the services of AffPower who were instrumental in the detagging of players.

Thanks for throwing them in the pit Andy where they now belong.

As for the original owner JF. He is one of only a couple of operators I could trust in this industry. Seriously.

 

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[bonustreak]

That email is petty and unprofessional

 

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[Engineer]

I got the email, too. Funny how they didn't mention a thing about untagging our players.

 

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[slotplayer]

I got the email, too. Funny how they didn't mention a thing about untagging our players.

not to mention like Gooner pointed out over at GPWA, the commission % being off. My last two months were off. So I guess check them?

 

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[abc]

not to mention like Gooner pointed out over at GPWA, the commission % being off. My last two months were off. So I guess check them?

My January and February and now march went from hundreds of k's in turnover to nothing, also deposits went from five figures to nothing.. And this isnt one player, these are players and stats accreued over 8 years.

 

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[RyanWeb]

I also got the email and agree that it was rather unprofessional, like grasping for straws and trying to pass blame. It also addresses none of the concern of this forum: being taken over by AffPower.

Like @abc my stats for this month look worse then ever, lots of Zeros (without leading numbers).. So much for building 8 years of a player base..

 

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[edgarf76]

I just posted this thread in the general area. I wish I had been more active on the forums to see this post. I never heard about this and also never heard about the Raging Bull getting taken over by Ace Revenue.

 

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[edgarf76]

Mainstreet... Club World... Cirrus... Virtual...

Is there a chance that all of these RTG joints are the same these days? All of them went through big changes over the past few months and affiliates and customers do not seem to be very happy.

Where did you hear about the rumors for Mainstreet? Is this valid?

 

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[LandofOz]

I wonder how the Affiliate Edge management is going to explain the untagging and theft of player accounts and commissions.

 

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[dfiocch]

I wonder how the Affiliate Edge management is going to explain the untagging and theft of player accounts and commissions.

They won't

 

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[CygX1]

@edgarf76 The statement about Mainstreet is based on speculation. If you want you can ask Mainstreet if this is correct or not. I asked them already but they would not even be interested to reply.

 

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[edgarf76]

@edgarf76 The statement about Mainstreet is based on speculation. If you want you can ask Mainstreet if this is correct or not. I asked them already but they would not even be interested to reply.

they have come through on payments for pretty decent sized amounts. There are a lot of ups and downs but I would really like to see hard evidence.

As far as Affiliate Edge they have always been bad with conversions. To me this means that they are skimming players (untagging players). I kept them in rotation because they had a good reputation and they paid on time but they are blacklisted now.

I appreciate the feedback, thank you!

 

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[abc]

I wonder how the Affiliate Edge management is going to explain the untagging and theft of player accounts and commissions.

They Wont.. They responded to my email.. see below.

"thank you for the mail, no players were removed from any accounts. The business was inherited as you see it, If there was a tech issue anything that was owed, is owed will be paid ofcourse. "

To be honest i even emailed martyn about a month ago about this issue before this all came out and he told me "maybe your players stopped playing" SO this detagging has been going on for a while

This has been going on for some time, lets see how it plays out

 

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[LandofOz]

Thanks for sharing that info. That's what I expected them to say.

 

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