Careful with Betonline.

[Johns1124]

I kept them on board for four months after they dropped me to 10%.
I was hoping to get to the $300 min Bitcoin payout and never did. So I figured I would have my $240 sent to my players account and take it out there. They made me wait two months to make the transfer. Which happen the 14th of this month. They never informed me of that fact. I checked in today and learned they made the transfer on the 14th, on the 15th someone had played casino (on my account) and lost it all. They claim it came from my IP. I live alone. It's obvious they didn't want to pay so this was their way to keep from paying. Needless to say, I have removed them from my website and have made warnings to my users. Just a heads up, they used to be ok. Now they are questionable.

 

[AussieDave]

I don't wish to sound unsympathetic. But how anyone can continue to "trust" a program who slashes their commission to 10%, really does surprise me. Affiliates who do this, seem shocked and blindsided, when the already-rogue-program shafts them again.

 

[EU Affiliate]

Good to know, we just registred there and wanted to put them online.
Thank you.

 

[admin]

A reminder is sent to all affiliate managers.

 

[Frank]

these guys stopped converting a while back.. went down hill since then

 

[edgarf76]

They have stopped converting. What other brands offer political wagering?

 

[Ryders]

These guys don't behave very well. And it does not please.

 

[Johns1124]

I'll do a follow up. So I have had a balance of $240 forever. I have been an affiliate with Betonline for over 10 years. Granted they were never my best book, but I kept them around even though they dropped to 10%. They have a min. of 300 BTC, but only 100 if they transfer to an SB account. So in Jan I decided to transfer the $$ there just to get it out.

My affiliate account said the $ was transferred to the SB account, but the SB account didn't have it. I emailed Troy and he said there was a mistake. When I selected to transfer to the SB account instead of bitcoin the system thought it was transferred, but it never was. So he returned the $240 back to the Affiliate account to be transferred the next month. The next month was for March commission, sent in April. They transferred the $240 to my Sportsbook account on the 14th. (I have never had any money in the account in the last decade they have been an affiliate). Then on the 16th "someone" logged in my account and lost it all at the casino. I noticed this happen on the 19th when I logged in to see if it had been transferred yet and it had. I talked to customer service and they said it was played from my IP address. Which I didn't do it. I have a sports forum, I never play casino.

Good news is I talked to troy and they looked into it and determined it was not me who lost the money at the casino, and they will return the $240 back to my account to go out this month (May). But, it has yet to be returned. We shall see and I'll keep you informed.

Strange part is I'm not sure how anyone knew there were funds on the SB account. Ten years of having the affiliate and SB account I have never funded the SB. I made sure the SB account still had my email and personal info was right. So I know no one else could have been tipped off there was any $$ in there.

Just an update.

John

 

[B. Scott Taylor]

This is one everyone should be jumping ship from. For several reasons.

 

[LandofOz]

If a sponsor downgrades my commission to 10%, I will blacklist the program and make sure that every current and potential affiliate hears about it.

 

[PROFRBcom]

I'll do a follow up. So I have had a balance of $240 forever. I have been an affiliate with Betonline for over 10 years. Granted they were never my best book, but I kept them around even though they dropped to 10%. They have a min. of 300 BTC, but only 100 if they transfer to an SB account. So in Jan I decided to transfer the $$ there just to get it out.

My affiliate account said the $ was transferred to the SB account, but the SB account didn't have it. I emailed Troy and he said there was a mistake. When I selected to transfer to the SB account instead of bitcoin the system thought it was transferred, but it never was. So he returned the $240 back to the Affiliate account to be transferred the next month. The next month was for March commission, sent in April. They transferred the $240 to my Sportsbook account on the 14th. (I have never had any money in the account in the last decade they have been an affiliate). Then on the 16th "someone" logged in my account and lost it all at the casino. I noticed this happen on the 19th when I logged in to see if it had been transferred yet and it had. I talked to customer service and they said it was played from my IP address. Which I didn't do it. I have a sports forum, I never play casino.

Almost all "hacking" is an inside job by someone well known to the person who was "hacked". True hacking is from Trojans, keyloggers, and generally compromised computers/devices. This is RARELY what happens.

Often it is a roomate, ex-lover, etc who has access to email, an old auto-login verson of the client, etc. They get some notification of money, or know money may be kept somewhere, they get drunk and angry, and they punt it gambling!

Seen it happen so many times.

Your situation seems different because of the 10 year old unused account, but still, just saying... I would scan the crap out of my computers/devices for viruses, malware, trojans, root kits, etc.

Then I would reboot and do it again with different programs.

Good luck!

Good news is I talked to troy and they looked into it and determined it was not me who lost the money at the casino, and they will return the $240 back to my account to go out this month (May). But, it has yet to be returned. We shall see and I'll keep you informed.

Thanks for the update!

I am glad to see that they did an investigation, and then, did the right thing when they determined something was afoul.

Scan your computers now though, someone could be ghost controlling one of them!

This is one everyone should be jumping ship from. For several reasons.

Like those stupid ass "marketing fees" they implemented which basically just steal 2 (or is it 2.5%) of commissions right off the top?

We got zero warning about them too. Just all of a sudden, your commission is cut! Thanks for the higher margins!

Fucked up move on the part of CommissionKings, aka BetOnline, Sportsbetting.ag, the Chico Poker Network.

 

[AidanLCFC]

Anyone had this before. Had earnings paid into sports account and now not allowed to withdraw until I've played through the funds at least once. How can that even be legal?

 

[BetOnlineUK]

Anyone had this before. Had earnings paid into sports account and now not allowed to withdraw until I've played through the funds at least once. How can that even be legal?

Obviously treating it as a deposit and not an affiliate payment. The things they do to NOT pay you.

 

[AidanLCFC]

Obviously treating it as a deposit and not an affiliate payment. The things they do to NOT pay you.

unbelievably they call it an affiliate bonus

 

[BetOnlineUK]

unbelievably they call it an affiliate bonus

No way

 

[AidanLCFC]

below is 1 email they sent me

Hoping this email finds you well, we are contacting you in regards of your previous email.

I understand that the funds contained in your account at this moment, was placed as an affiliate bonus.

In order for you to request this funds successfully, you need to comply with the one time Roll Over, which basically means that you have to play this funds, in full, before you can withdraw your winnings.

In case you have any doubt in regards to the affiliate bonus terms, please contact your Affiliate Program to verify and confirm terms and conditions.

Please apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

 

[B. Scott Taylor]

Anyone had this before. Had earnings paid into sports account and now not allowed to withdraw until I've played through the funds at least once. How can that even be legal?

The only time I've heard this is if you ask for your affiliate payment to be paid into your player account specifically. Never by default. But I wouldn't put this past them as it has grown increasingly shady. Since they knocked me down from 20% to 10% (years after being with them) it has probably cost me at least $5,000 in commissions.