Black Hat SEO dominating in the SERPs, take action please!

[AussieDave]

professional affiliates are giving up their long term websites and just focusing on short term, but in quantity. If you actually read black hat forums, which I sometimes do, many people are converting to the "dark side" because their high quality websites got nuked off the serps overnight and that's the only way for them to stay alive anymore.

Agreed

Most of us have a families et al to support. Google (errr Cutts) claims they want quality content etc etc BUT when the chips are down and the alog keeps getting updated, it's the blackhat seo which reins supreme every damn time. My main site which averaged 6.5K a month in unique and converted those players into 70+ new depositing players per month, since 2007, has all but dried up. It's a clean site and always has been. If I didn't have other sites and a decent established player base, I'd be up-sh#t-creek thanks to Google.

So it doesn't suprise me other affiliates are now favouring blackhat seo over sticking to Google's recommendations. Cause frankly, doing the right thing gets you penalised!

 

[tryme1]

This is a good point - Google have, maybe inadvertently, messed up a lot of legitimate websites and businesses with their Panda and Penguin algos. I know affiliates whose online gambling income went down 80% pretty much overnight when Penguin hit. Their fault for not heeding the warnings and signs? Possibly, but it doesn't change the what Bet4You said: 'most of us have families to support'. You gotta do what you gotta do to get by.

 

[slotplayer]

Agreed

Most of us have a families et al to support. Google (errr Cutts) claims they want quality content etc etc BUT when the chips are down and the alog keeps getting updated, it's the blackhat seo which reins supreme every damn time. My main site which averaged 6.5K a month in unique and converted those players into 70+ new depositing players per month, since 2007, has all but dried up. It's a clean site and always has been. If I didn't have other sites and a decent established player base, I'd be up-sh#t-creek thanks to Google.

So it doesn't suprise me other affiliates are now favouring blackhat seo over sticking to Google's recommendations. Cause frankly, doing the right thing gets you penalised!

that's too bad.

 

[Viriatu]

i think http://xxx.quickthinkmedia.co.uk/ is one of the companies mainly responsible for this débâcle lately... i cant prove it (yet).

 

[Online18Casino]

If you search the forums at blackhatworld it seems its a pretty well know secret now and it seems like everyone is doing it. I have found a few good articles on it.. Hopefully its now well enough known that Google puts a stop to it.. But now-a-days when they do an update them seem to make things worse..

 

[Viriatu]

If you search the forums at blackhatworld it seems its a pretty well know secret now and it seems like everyone is doing it. I have found a few good articles on it.. Hopefully its now well enough known that Google puts a stop to it.. But now-a-days when they do an update them seem to make things worse..

Ye i dont know have not been full force on research on it, im pretty sure this and locked content will become more and more an issue very soon, and i hope we dont get f****d in the process.

 

[inspiration]

Do a search with "Now ........... deposits." (first sentence) for your main site online18casino and you will see your site is copied 1000+ times (the copycats strip parts of paragraphs and post it on their blogs with ads to itopcasino.com which sells ads to (I assume) --> nodepositcasino.net - casinopresent.com - casinolistings.com - )

 

[LandofOz]

There is so much b.s involved in running an affiliate site. No wonder so many affiliates have left the industry.

 

[Guard Dog]

No doubt about it. It is pretty tough to get high rankings with good keywords. most of my keywords aren't the most searched for.

 

[Online18Casino]

Lovely... Thanks for the heads up inspiration. I hate dealing with stuff like this..

 

[slotplayer]

come over and run my retail sites, its 5 times the work and bs.

trust me if folks are making good money with the gambling industry, stick with it.

Since Google changed things, I've had to add (aside from the 2 standalone sites) an Amazon store, facebook store and now just finished and eBay presence, just to keep sales coming in due to the mass competition Google released when they killed off their affiliate program and went to a paid to model for Google Shopping. Thats not even counting any hits I took from panda/penguin.

 

[Guard Dog]

that sounds painful as hell. Google is doing everything they can to take sales away from affiliates in retail. At least that is the way it seems to me.

 

[slotplayer]

the whole web is a nightmare now.

 

[SEOmike]

that sounds painful as hell. Google is doing everything they can to take sales away from affiliates in retail. At least that is the way it seems to me.

Google is trying to force more and more people and small businesses to use adwords, that's more money in their pockets. Previously, many companies were able to rely on SEO for a steady flow of organic traffic. Things aren't so easy anymore.

Google now considers almost any kind of SEO to be blackhat... According to Cutts, guest posts are now bh, article directories are bh, almost any "artificial" link building is discouraged. IMO they're getting too greedy, because the recent updates and policies sure ass hell haven't made the search any better. For some queries, it's way worse than a couple of years ago, again because true blackhatters are now dominating the results.

 

[Guard Dog]

It is pretty sad what they have done. I wish I knew how to get my sites into Bing Well, I am there but very little presence. I rank way better on Google for some reason I also wonder how many affiliates have read this thread and gone over to BHW to read up. Wouldn't shock me if some are turning.

 

[SEOmike]

It is pretty sad what they have done. I wish I knew how to get my sites into Bing Well, I am there but very little presence. I rank way better on Google for some reason I also wonder how many affiliates have read this thread and gone over to BHW to read up. Wouldn't shock me if some are turning.

For Bing, you just need many links. There's no negative SEO there, at least not really. But if you want to rank in Bing, you pretty much have to spam, there's no way around it. The good thing about that is that if your sites get attacked by a negative seo campaign, they suddenly start ranking on Bing

 

[Guard Dog]

ha. ok, gotcha. On Google I rank because the site is aged. I figured Bing would be similar... I'm not going to go spamming to rank there, though. Basically if you do good on Bing you will hurt your Google rankings, lol.

 

[SEOmike]

But yeah, it's sad that Google are doing this, but they can get away with it because they don't have any real competition - Bing sucks too. Somebody call Richard Branson? Virgin Search? Lol.

 

[slotplayer]

my retail site is #1 in bing (for the top kw), even above amazon and it generates squat for sales. Bing accounts for 10% of traffic.

 

[Online18Casino]

I agree, I have some really good rankings in Bing, but get nothing for them... About as good as Yahoo or DuckDuckGo