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Discussion in 'Affiliate Edge' started by inspiration, Mar 19, 2017.
Yes feel the same
This (affiliate) industry is falling to pieces quickly.
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If they were sharp would they not know or anticipate the fallout?
A reminder is sent to all affiliate managers.
I'm not sure that you understand my inference in using description of "sharp".
In business this is used to to refer to business practices that are unpopular, overbearing and on the edge of legality, perhaps overstepping the mark.
These consultants are definitely "sharp" ... it NOT a good thing.
While I'm almost 99.999% sure that when our industry was 'cowboy town', affiliates were still being shaved etc. The BIG difference then to now, we were ALL making making money, and lots of it!!! With such heafty monthly cash flows, it was easy to not let those negatives affect you. But now things have changed, and making that money isn't anywhere near as easy as it once was.
Yet the demand to feed the beasts are still here. More so than ever before.
TBH I don't trust any program these days, because there a just way too many signals telling me that my stats are questionable.
Do I think some programs cook-the-affiliate-books? Yes!
I've got programs where I'm constantly doing decent 5 figure deposits each month, yet, NGR at End of Month, dives to 4 figures. If this is an example of what other affiliates are seeing, then I have wonder how these casinos stay in business. Simple answer, impossible. So clearly, least in my mind, something is not Kosher here.
But what do you do? No point complaining. Not like a program is going to admit to fraud. So you just keep going, hoping, you'll have a good month.
I'm getting old (56 this year). And, like yourself dfiocch, I'm at the point where I'd rather be stress free from ALL this BS. I've got a few options, other than being a casino affiliate. I'm just kinda sad that after investing 17 years of hard work, I'm now being shafted by the programs I've been loyal to all these years. Guess when you work with sharks, eventually you'll lose a limb!
yes, I understand what you mean now.
This affiliate program was always recommended to affiliates, but we never did well with them. It was difficult to bring in depositing players, when other affiliate programs would bring in dozens of new depositors each month. Last month, we actually made a profit and they paid us.. which is surprising considering what is happening now.
Some affiliates have taken a wait and see approach, but I'm growing tired of waiting for affiliate programs to wake up and figure out the right way to run a business. I can make huge changes to a web site in 24 hours, so I don't understand why these affiliate programs need days, months, and sometimes years to get positive changes approved and implemented.
Although highly respected, recommended and honest, Affiliate Edge were ALWAYS a "second rate" program to promote IMHO.
They COULD have been the best, but by poor management decisions (greed?), they chose not to be.
The main problems were:
NCO on earnings.
Lower Rev Share % than most other RTG brands.
Worse player Welcome Bonus terms than most other RTG casinos
Less USA Deposit & Withdrawal methods than most other RTG casinos
If they had addressed these issues years ago, they could have been stellar, but now look what's happened...
Instead of IMPROVING the operation, they have gone to the "dark side" and are facing a very uncertain future.
What a ridiculous wasted opportunity...
Resurrecting this thread for reference purposes. Also any of you that have had players detagged and have kept historical reports and screenshots please email me davesawyer @ bathrockmedia.com - The more of you the merrier.
I thought RTG has had no player records for affiliate programs to share with affiliates
The monthly reports show total deposits, revenue etc. On the info sent to me so far you can see that around February 2017 in particular, the deposits nosedived in many cases from averaging thousands a month prior to the detagging to zip, nada.
Akin to thousands of lemmings jumping off a cliff. Also I have spoken to some affiliates who are in contact with their players and they know for a fact they are still playing, yet it was not reflected in the reports once they became detagged.
Feb was when the deposits decreased to nothing.
I had a winner every month in 2015.
Wow. I step away and this happens. What happened to Jonathan? Who are these other Fersters? Martyn quit?
Martyn quit many months ago.
Hey Dom really pleased to see you here. Hope all is well. Very long story, but have a look at this, and click the links in the article to get the full back story. https://www.onlinecasinoreviewer.com/ocr-commences-legal-action-affiliate-program/
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Hostile takeover by relatives? Nasty. I hope you win your law suit and many follow. This is really quite sad, I really liked Jonathan. I hope he had a soft place to land. Same goes for Martyn.
They are now with Legend Affiliates - and doing pretty well I would say!
Nice to see you again Dom!