White label casino

[AidanLCFC]

slotter, you're behaviour on AGD is unacceptable to all of us.

so is yours on GPWA when you spam like mad so i'd keep your nose out if I was you

 

[Kadabra]

Well, this becoming a quite interesting thread after all

 

[ocportal]

You signup Wednesday (25/07/2018)...If I had to bet on this one, you've now realised this White Label has been a BAD investment on your part, and you want to off-load it to some other naive sucker.

But what do I say to people...hmmm... "I've lost interest in the eu sphere".

Your the only 1 talking sh#t here mate, not me...

And, FYI trusted AGD members will always add comments to threads, if, they believe what is being said or offered is BS. If you don't want comments to a thread you commenced. Easy, don't commence one

You should calm down and stop attacking "slotter" for no solid reason. If you have a bad day try some yoga or take a pill

 

[slotter]

You should calm down and stop attacking "slotter" for no solid reason. If you have a bad day try some yoga or take a pill

careful, he will delete your posts

 

[Biti]

Lol. Seller blames a law that was implemented two years ago. Obviously he didn't do his homework. This kind of fortune seekers are the business model of almost all white label providers.

They look for naïve people that don't do any research and think just that with opening a casino they will become rich.

Anybody who's dumb enough to start a white label should at least choose his own name instead of buying the trash of somebody else.

 

[Kadabra]

Everything has it's price - including a white label casino for example if it designed properly, nice domain and such. I am not into buying a white label but it will help you, Slotter, to post some details.

 

[slotter]

Lol. Seller blames a law that was implemented two years ago. Obviously he didn't do his homework. This kind of fortune seekers are the business model of almost all white label providers.

They look for naïve people that don't do any research and think just that with opening a casino they will become rich.

Anybody who's dumb enough to start a white label should at least choose his own name instead of buying the trash of somebody else.

half of the sites affiliates send traffic to are w/l's. whats so bad about a w/l? they take an amount of profits to manage licensing, payments etc...and yes i didnt know about gdpr or how annoying the uk advertising standards were...so you got me on that, go ahead, rub it in, feel good about yourself

 

[AussieDave]

careful, he will delete your posts

You posts were edited/deleted/because you, yourself chose to attack me on a personal level. I issued a warning, yet you chose to ignore this. Act like a child, you'll be treated like one!

You should calm down and stop attacking "slotter" for no solid reason.

FYI I don't "attack" people as you put it.

NB - like any new member, we also don't know the OP from a bar of soap.

Can you vouch for him ocportal? I'm guessing not!

So lets look at some facts, which btw ocportal, you seem to have conveniently overlook...

• 22'th July - OP signed up at GPWA, and placed White Label ad there;
• 25'th July - Universal (Rick) asked the OP relevant questions relating to this White Label (the OP declined to answer).
  
• 25'th July - OP signed up at AGD and posted same ad (again with no details);
• OP does not have PM privileges. Hence, no one can PM him here (likely the same at GPWA).
  
• Both myself and AidanLCFC suggested to post details about the White Label Casino;
• Instead, OP becomes abusive, and attacks me with personal insults etc., etc;
• And then uses ME as excuse, not to post information about White Label for sale.

it seems most whitelabels that are for sale are actually sold by the whitelabel provider and were never owned by any 3rd party.

@ocportal
Let me reiterate... like any new member, we also don't know the OP from a bar of soap. For all we know, the OP could be a white label provider, or is working on commission for the aforementioned, to sell said WL.

The OP was not transparent and has remained that way. And, maintained to same modus operandi over at the GPWA too. This sale is one BIG mystery.

If you don't care about anyone else's welfare other than you own, that's your business. However, I've seen way too many naive (trusting) folk, get scammed in this industry. I refuse to sit on my hands and say nothing, if I see something that does not look kosher.

 

[slotter]

several people pm'd me and i replied, now you blocked my pm's. and no it was not a personal attack i merely stated what casinomiester said about you, he calls you a back stabbing whacko and i consider casinomiester to be a credible source. furthermore a simple google search shows that you like to troll. play the victim my friend... go ahead delete/modify this too. i will not reply to your baiting anymore because you are a waste of space.

 

[slotter]

btw i forgot my gpwa login and there is no password reset button there so i am unable to reply, but seriously get a life

 

[ocportal]

You posts were edited/deleted/because you, yourself chose to attack me on a personal level. I issued a warning, yet you chose to ignore this. Act like a child, you'll be treated like one!



FYI I don't "attack" people as you put it.

NB - like any new member, we also don't know the OP from a bar of soap.

Can you vouch for him ocportal? I'm guessing not!

So lets look at some facts, which btw ocportal, you seem to have conveniently overlook...

• 22'th July - OP signed up at GPWA, and placed White Label ad there;
• 25'th July - Universal (Rick) asked the OP relevant questions relating to this White Label (the OP declined to answer).
  
• 25'th July - OP signed up at AGD and posted same ad (again with no details);
• OP does not have PM privileges. Hence, no one can PM him here (likely the same at GPWA).
  
• Both myself and AidanLCFC suggested to post details about the White Label Casino;
• Instead, OP becomes abusive, and attacks me with personal insults etc., etc;
• And then uses ME as excuse, not to post information about White Label for sale.

@ocportal
Let me reiterate... like any new member, we also don't know the OP from a bar of soap. For all we know, the OP could be a white label provider, or is working on commission for the aforementioned, to sell said WL.

The OP was not transparent and has remained that way. And, maintained to same modus operandi over at the GPWA too. This sale is one BIG mystery.

If you don't care about anyone else's welfare other than you own, that's your business. However, I've seen way too many naive (trusting) folk, get scammed in this industry. I refuse to sit on my hands and say nothing, if I see something that does not look kosher.

Fair enough, you seem to have your reasons, those were not clearly posted in this thread. I asked him for more details via PM and he's been sending me the url. It's a PP white label. Anyhow its always good to be nice and comment with facts instead of personal insults (that ain't good, we're a family on this spinning rock) It's true the info provided by him is very slim so I'll give it a miss. By the way, you seem to have good knowledge about the companies providing WL, may I ask what do you think of Flexigaming white labels?

 

[AussieDave]

several people pm'd me and i replied, now you blocked my pm's. and no it was not a personal attack i merely stated what casinomiester said about you, he calls you a back stabbing whacko and i consider casinomiester to be a credible source. furthermore a simple google search shows that you like to troll. play the victim my friend... go ahead delete/modify this too. i will not reply to your baiting anymore because you are a waste of space.

I have nothing to hide...
You on the other hand, seem to have lots to hide. Doesn't say much about you, hey

FYI... Bryan (CM) and I were friend since 2001 (we used to chat on the phone every few months). We had a falling out in or around 2009. Subsequently, as things go, stuff gets said (from both sides). Anyway, that's all water under the bridge, because last year (2017) Bryan and I shook virtual hands, and let bygones be bygones.

In addition, I've got a number of friends who I've known for many years. These "friends" are well respected, and trusted within the gaming industry. Dishing me like you are now, and have been, is disrespecting these people too. Something you may like to ponder for a while...

Furthermore...

1. You seem to have no problem using Google for research.
   
2. YET... your 100% naive (clueless) about EU Gaming Laws which are now, two (2) years old.

Something smells fishy here...just sayin!

And, FYI I don't have the ability to BLOCK you from receiving PM's at AGD. AFAIK you need a certain number of posts to achieve that status. Though, that maybe overridden by Admin's, or it could also be blocked by Admin's too. Frr the record, I don't hold Admin auth here.

As far as the GPWA, well I'm neither a Mod or Admin there. So once again your barking up the wrong tree.

 

[slotter]

flexigaming is working with betswiss

 

[Biti]

Everything has it's price - including a white label casino for example if it designed properly, nice domain and such. I am not into buying a white label but it will help you, Slotter, to post some details.

You can pay someone to make a design by yourself. An existing casino is just worth something if it has a (profitable) playerbase or concrete potential to have a profitable playerbase.

A decent amount of white labels are just given away or taken back to the seller as usually you have obligations too.

 

[slotter]

I have nothing to hide...
You on the other hand, seem to have lots to hide. Doesn't say much about you, hey

FYI... Bryan (CM) and I were friend since 2001 (we used to chat on the phone every few months). We had a falling out in or around 2009. Subsequently, as things go, stuff gets said (from both sides). Anyway, that's all water under the bridge, because last year (2017) Bryan and I shook virtual hands, and let bygones be bygones.

In addition, I've got a number of friends who I've known for many years. These "friends" are well respected, and trusted within the gaming industry. Dishing me like you are now, and have been, is disrespecting these people too. Something you may like to ponder for a while...

Furthermore...

1. You seem to have no problem using Google for research.
   
2. YET... your 100% naive (clueless) about EU Gaming Laws which are now, two (2) years old.

Something smells fishy here...just sayin!

And, FYI I don't have the ability to BLOCK you from receiving PM's at AGD. AFAIK you need a certain number of posts to achieve that status. Though, that maybe overridden by Admin's, or it could also be blocked by Admin's too. Frr the record, I don't hold Admin auth here.

As far as the GPWA, well I'm neither a Mod or Admin there. So once again your barking up the wrong tree.

i have nothing to hide at all, generally business of this kind is not done in public. if you have a problem i will gladely meet you face to face and we can talk about it. where in aus are you dave?

 

[AussieDave]

By the way, you seem to have good knowledge about the companies providing WL, may I ask what do you think of Flexigaming white labels?

Is that question directed at me or someone else?

 

[ocportal]

Is that question directed at me or someone else?

Yes directed to you, if its Ok for you to share some info about them please

 

[AussieDave]

i have nothing to hide at all, generally business of this kind is not done in public.

For valid reasons, the following isn't "generally" shared in public: statistical data, profit/loss, number of signed up players (both registered and depositing), and many other operational information, which is usually only provided to interested party(s) in private.

IDK what you gaming industry experience is...
However, I've got 18+ years under my belt, and "generally" when people post a site-for-sale (be this on an affiliate forum, or places like Sedo etc., etc., they provide some basic information, this also includes the domain).

In the case of a White Label (and as Rick asked you at GPWA):

What is the domain?
What software does it use?
Does it have a license?
If yes, is the license wholly owned, or is it a shared license of the main operator?
Where is it hosted?
Can the site be moved and self-hosted, or must it stay hosted where it is?
What are the current hosting costs?

btw i forgot my gpwa login and there is no password reset button there so i am unable to reply

I've checked and your right...
Though, be that as it may, with 99.999% of forum software (those used by gaming affiliate forums), if you enter your UserID (nick) but no password, and click "enter", you'll be redirected to a page where you can reset your lost password.

How long have you been in this industry?

P.S. Please refrain from backhand insults at me. There's no call for it.

 

[slotter]

For valid reasons, the following isn't "generally" shared in public: statistical data, profit/loss, number of signed up players (both registered and depositing), and many other operational information, which is usually only provided to interested party(s) in private.

IDK what you gaming industry experience is...
However, I've got 18+ years under my belt, and "generally" when people post a site-for-sale (be this on an affiliate forum, or places like Sedo etc., etc., they provide some basic information, this also includes the domain).

In the case of a White Label (and as Rick asked you at GPWA):




I've checked and your right...
Though, be that as it may, with 99.999% of forum software (those used by gaming affiliate forums), if you enter your UserID (nick) but no password, and click "enter", you'll be redirected to a page where you can reset your lost password.

How long have you been in this industry?

P.S. Please refrain from backhand insults at me. There's no call for it.

i think you should stop now

 

[AussieDave]

what do you think of Flexigaming white labels?

TBH I don't know enough about them to give a fair appraisal, nor pass a professional opinion on their platform.

Let me say this...while not all WL's are bad, sadly, the majority are. More often than not, they've been proven time and time again to fail. Disappearing with monies owed to players, affiliates and 3'rd parties. Or, sold to a known rogue group (as was the case with Reaffiliates - how many affiliates/players got shafted on that sale).

The issues most white labels seem to suffer from are under-funding and sheer lack of i-gaming experience, both in every day casino operations and marketing etc., etc. That and nature of this type of business.

WL's are generally considered... a poor man's casino operation, for good reason.

I shouldn't have to remind people of what most Rival White Labels, have done to both players and affiliates, over the years. Previous to that there was the Gambling Federation and their WL's. Yet another disaster. It certainly doesn't help when places like StartCasino (and other similar clip-joint providers for WL's), use unethical marketing to make their product seem like gold-mines.

The industry is getting more competitive every day. BIG casino groups once considered akin to 'Fort Knox', are now consolidating, and subsequently being absorbed/merging into one group. Or, in case of stand alone Microgaming casinos (once considered the Rolls Royce of this industry), have in some case folded and be bought out. This story is becoming all too familiar. Who'd have thought 32Red Plc would change hands? I didn't, I'm sure most others didn't either.

My point to that is... If these BIG operators, with literally close to 2 decades of experience under their belts, are finding the current i-gaming climate difficult, or worse, having to decommission casinos, then what hope is there for White Label operators, who, and reiterating are generally underfunded, and usually have little to no experience.

Anyone thinking of getting a white label, would be far better investing the money/time they have into being an affiliate. Though, even that these days is becoming harder and harder.