Star Partner Changes High Roller Minimum{08/11/09 UPDATED ON PAGE 4}

Discussion in 'Casino Industry Buzz and Terms Alerts' started by Guard Dog, Jul 28, 2009.

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    mojo

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    Since they enacted retro terms, wouldn't it be marked 'predatory' similar to Playshare?

    Just asking! I am not understanding the difference.
     
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    They "predatory" label was given to Playshare and Roxy because their high roller policies, when implemented, destroy the first month's earnings. Casino Coins and Star Partner's high roller / big winner policies don't destroy the first month's earnings, which is why they were given warnings instead of predatory labels for their retroactive changes.

    With the AGD improvements that were launched today (which I posted about in another thread), retroactive changes will be noted with a bright red YES icon within in each program's main forum area. This isn't showing up correctly for Playshare, Roxy, etc. at the moment; those may need to be updated manually. I'm sure this will be addressed next week. ;)
     
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    mojo

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    Thank you for the response E. I understand a little better now.

    Just to give my individual opinion, I do not agree that a warning should be applied. I believe predatory is justified.

    The reason is that whatever way the term works, the fact remains that it was added without my permission and retroactively and no opt in. That is not ok. Not to mention adding further insult to injury, SP had some sort of poll to lower it further (3k) that many affs did not actually vote for!

    That is JMO.
     
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    bonustreak

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    We obviously are going to have to sit down and set a standard and be tough on all of these programs I agree. Give us time to do this we are spinning crazy mad here with all the program changes I personally have worked for 17 hrs yesterday and heading that way again today with my normal duties and this stuff going on. Also I urge you to go to Casino Meister and PAB on all the programs making these changes :) More fight power the better!
     
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    mojo

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    I appreciate the time factor. It's cut into mine as well.

    I value and support the AGD and the efforts made on behalf of affiliates. We are all on the same team.

    I'm poised and ready at CM for PABS and anything else.

    Thank you for the great work AGD!
     
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    mojo

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    I wanted to ask another question Bonustreak and AGD on the HR term. Not just SP but all who are intent on adding it.

    I'll use the 10k threshold as an example. I'll try to word it right. :p

    Player wins and hr is inacted.

    Affs neg carryover for that player is 50k

    Player keeps playing and aff is chipping away at the negitive.

    Player cashes out a further 6k during this time.

    It is not the 10k threshold in the one month rule. However is it added to the neg carryover and the aff now has to earn that back as well?
     
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    mojo

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    Just one more. Last one I promise! LOL May as well cover everything. My understanding is once it's done it's done.

    Using SP rules.

    All players can win up to 3k before the HR is enacted.

    Player wins 10k.

    Negitive is 10k.

    With the HR rule, shouldn't the HR player also be allowed the 3k rule?

    Negitive CO is 7k.
     
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    Star Partner has a dead Chinese casino.
     
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    Starpartner has been removed for the bigger part, redirecting links to other casinos. Funny thing still making the same amount of money............

    ;D
     
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    My understanding, and I will need to get some clarification on this is:

    Example: If the player wins $50k, (s)he is fenced. If the player plays back $20k in 1 month, you have chipped the negative to $30k. If the player WINS $6k the next month, the fenced player then has a $36k negative to overcome.

    Again - it is my understanding that once the player is fenced, their NET is fenced until it becomes NET positive.
     
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    Guard Dog

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    I understand where you are coming from on this one ;) I recall this issue being brought up once before.

    You have to understand what they are trying to accomplish here, though, and that is NOT paying out on casino losses.

    So - that $3k that you would like to have removed, is still part of the loss (like it or not). As such, it is included in the fencing.

    Is it the right way to do it? That's hard for me to say. It is the proper way to fence, if we are going from a pure 'fencing' standpoing, IMO. Otherwise they would just be partial-fencing.
     

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