Star Games Company fraud))))

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    geobonus

    geobonus Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Boys if you work with Star game sread this main rule told by them

    if you sended 50CPA players and 1is fraud thay will not pay for other 49. nothing thay will be pay. please read this article you will enjoy it


    I Think How Stupid an Affiliate Be if He She Starts Promoting Them



    [1:59:10 AM] MrGEOBONUS says: ok now
    [1:59:11 AM] MrGEOBONUS says: € € €
    Unique Clicks: 0 0 24
    Clicks: 0 0 29
    Single OptIns: 0 0 4
    Double OptIns: 0 0 4
    Deposit Player: 0 0 3
    New Deposit Player Plus 20: 0 0 3 150.00
    Total 150.00
    [1:59:12 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: we are a serious regulated casino
    [1:59:26 AM] MrGEOBONUS says: usrname:freegive why i didi not got my payments?
    [1:59:41 AM] MrGEOBONUS says: i didi not got and stopped immidiately promoting
    [2:00:47 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: I will ask the fraud and finance team to check it. I do not handle payments
    [2:01:04 AM] MrGEOBONUS says: ok mail me pelase
    [2:01:20 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: Ok
    [2:01:25 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: i have the answer
    [2:01:31 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: you have not been paid
    [2:01:39 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: as you breached the terms and conditions
    [2:01:43 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: the players who deposited
    [2:01:50 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: came from the same IP address
    [2:02:29 AM] MrGEOBONUS says: i sended palyers I am not them so 3depositors i have i do not dare it means if 3 comes from 1 ip you ahve to opay at least for 1 depositing player 50eur
    [2:03:04 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: you have 2 players with the same ip address
    [2:03:13 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: if you like i can instruct the finance team
    [2:03:17 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: to send a reprort
    [2:03:40 AM] MrGEOBONUS says: for taht situation we have to consider taht 2 palyers as a 1 player so you ahve to pay for 2 depositors correct?
    [2:03:54 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: no
    [2:03:57 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: each players
    [2:04:00 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: is single
    [2:04:07 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: one user account
    [2:04:20 AM] MrGEOBONUS says: ok so how much you ahve to pay me? 1 CPA acount yes?
    [2:04:20 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: you cannot receive the CPA twice for the same player
    [2:04:24 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: none
    [2:04:29 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: if you breach the terms
    [2:04:33 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: the finance team will not pay you
    [2:05:02 AM] MrGEOBONUS says: i diid not recioved any cpa payments from you i sended 3 cpa players you saided 2 is fraud where is 1 cpa player?
    [2:05:18 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: let me give you an example
    [2:05:23 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: if you get 50 players
    [2:05:26 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: and one of them is fraud
    [2:05:31 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: and the other 49 are good
    [2:05:39 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: StarGames has the right to withold the payment
    [2:06:42 AM] MrGEOBONUS says: :D:D:D and i am on shit? I do not belive taht that 2 palyers are fraud i agreedd you do not want to pay cpa for 1 player instead of 3 yes? and it is honest
    [2:07:07 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: I will send you a report from the finance department
    [2:07:18 AM] MrGEOBONUS says: fuck all affilaites who promote you, it means affilaites are stupid and you got brain? so you get players and i am not reciving any cents
    [2:07:35 AM] MrGEOBONUS says: i relly do not need that one 2fraud ok 1 is real where is cpa
    [2:08:22 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: please refrain from using bad langugae
    [2:08:31 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: language
    [2:08:54 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: i will send you the report
    [2:08:55 AM] MrGEOBONUS says: ok and you are paing real money for real players. and do not want to hear my bed languaje
     
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    alexpratt

    alexpratt Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Looks like you sent fraudulent traffic though....fair enough if one was OK but the fact is you tried to rip them off in the first place after agreeing to the t&c's so why would they pay you if you did that????

    or are you innocent and it just so happens two of the players you sent we all on the same IP as you
     
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    stellar

    stellar New Member

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    Hi geobonus,

    We investigated your account once more in detail and we've informed you per e-mail.

    Regards,
    Anita
     
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    Bonus Paradise

    Bonus Paradise Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    I promote Stargames since quite some time now and have been paid always every cent. Never had any problem with them.
     
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    TheGamblingGuru

    TheGamblingGuru Turning Over Stones

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    Maybe so.....

    But the part of the conversation that concerns me most is this....

    "[2:05:23 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: if you get 50 players
    [2:05:26 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: and one of them is fraud
    [2:05:31 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: and the other 49 are good
    [2:05:39 AM] Andrew Valenzia says: StarGames has the right to withold the payment"


    That's just BS IMO

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    Guard Dog

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    I agree with the Guru on this one. You can't just pick one player, call him fraud, and then disregard all proper earnings from the affiliate. That is complete and utter BS.
     
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    bonustreak

    bonustreak Administrator Staff Member

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    stellar

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    We can assure you that we only forfeit payments once fraudulent activities are structural and not incidental. We can also assure you that this is the case in subject.

    Regards,
    Anita
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    StarGames Affiliate Program Coordinator
     
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    Aussie-Dave

    Aussie-Dave Former AGD Member

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    From what I can tell, the affiliate's be paid nothing; zip; ziltch a big fat $0...Yet, your online gaming venue has gained depositing players for free. Which from where I'm standing, seems to be the current status qou!

    So, have you paid this affiliate anything in relation to the current dispute. Easy question...Yes or No?


    @geobonus
    StarGames is regulated by Lotteries and Gaming Malta. No harm in lodging a formal complaint with them at http://www.lga.org.mt/lga/home.aspx.

    I'd be interested to know how this pans out. Please keep us updated!

    Edit: geobonus, how did you come to get a CPA deal? Did they contact you?
     
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    Aussie-Dave

    Aussie-Dave Former AGD Member

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    Are you on a CPA or RevShare? Looking at your URL linking structure, I supect your on revshare.
     
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    inspiration

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    @Stargames : I would say make a one time deal for the legit accounts (assumed that the affiliate is responsible for the fraudulent account) and stop the deal for CPA, change it to revshare only to avoid this.
     
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    WCD Admin

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    My analysis was this:

    They got THREE players. All THREE players all shared the same IP address, all three are fraud. Not two. The person who tried to cheat should not be paid for his one account. He should be paid for none. The one account was obviously also involved since it share the same IP.

    However I agree the 49 good players + 1 fraud player = no payment statement is incorrect. Obviously they need to pay on legit players. I think the AM was just trying to make a point already having a good suspicion that this guy was scamming. Point being: "GO AWAY, you will not be paid for gaming the system."

    By the way I don't promote Star Games. :] . . . . just my 2c
     
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    Bonus Paradise

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    Yes revshare, Dave
     
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    bonustreak

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    Steller please have someone get in touch with me we are due several months of pay, we need to collect thanks!!
     
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    Bonus Paradise

    Bonus Paradise Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Maybe this could be the reason...

    Check if you have filled out all in your account under "my account"

    We had that too one time with our 1st payment,
    then we were told the system did not make the credit since not everything marked with a * was filled in .
    We have then filled out all and since then we are always paid on time.
     
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    machino

    machino Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    i hear these stories alot and i think aff programs should make this dead clear about terms and conditions like this, and stop trying to rip people off
     
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    GFPC

    GFPC BWIN IS ROGUE

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    I can tell you this. Something does not seem right with this program. I worked with Tyson and he was a great guy actually. I liked him allot. Really cool.

    Heck I even have all their reviews still up and i am first page in google for all their games, slots, casino, poker, bingo ect...

    I was with them when they started more or less and since that time have got 1 single deposit.

    I mean literally i am right behind them in SEs - i removed all the links though as i was deciding at some point maybe to try them again.

    Unique Clicks - 2454
    Clicks 2504
    Single Opt 17
    Double Opt 1
    Deposit 1

    Rev= - $17.19

    ....................

    After almost 3000 clicks I was like WTF - this is not normal!

    I have sites i send 100 clicks and have 30 deposits! I have sites with 20 clicks and get 5 deposits. Heck if i had 100-200 clicks i would understand.

    But 3000 clicks - 1st page in google for all their programs still to this date! Ranking with them in top spots and 1 single deposit? After maybe 6 months.

    I had to stop sending them traffic! It was so insane!

    Still even today I am right behind them on first page. Dropped a little.

    Poker - 6th
    Casino - 10th
    Slots - 3rd
    Bingo - 4th

    At one point all were 2nd spot!

    Never saw anything like it! Free advertising :)
     
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    Bonus Paradise

    Bonus Paradise Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    My stats from yesterday......

    Unique Clicks: 178
    Clicks: 226
    Single OptIns: 15
    Double OptIns: 15
    Deposit Player: 3

    I cannot complaint. Stargames is doing well for us.
     
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    GFPC

    GFPC BWIN IS ROGUE

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    Yeah those numbers look more natural. I mean 100 clicks a deposit is fine and pretty normal. Although I have one site that is so targeted that if i send 10 clicks 5 will be deposits - 50% deposit rate on clicks!

    However in their case its random traffic - not targeted so i would of expected the 100/1 ratio - heck even 200/1 is fine.

    Multiply yours by 20 = 60 deposits!

    Now imagine it being 1
     
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    Bonus Paradise

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    Yeah GFPC totally understand you.
    Very odd indeed.
    Dunno, what kind of traffic you have.
    Also know that there are few countries which cannot play casino games/slots at Stargames for real money?
    I find the Slots are it what brings in the players, they do love these Novomatic Slots
     

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