Rewards Affiliates not paying and untagging High Rollers!

[ddm]

What the industry is doing in general irritates me as well recently.

 

[Roulette Zeitung]

The lady was already involved in the 2011 gigantic cross-promotion scam. Moreover: My very own deep and personal experience is, this pseudo-friendly-posturing is nothing but a double-faced staged behavior, and if you would know, what I know, how she really thinks about affiliates, you would share my opinon. In this thread I will not go into details, more likely in the fact or fiction thread one day. I admit, she had trapped me for some time, but there was one incident, when the truth came to light.

Sidenote: Aussie Dave has more knowledge about the true facts then all his opponents together.

 

[Roulette Zeitung]

+++ ADDENDUM +++

And here is the evidence, how Mr. Corfleone with one of his usual silly and crooked psyop-statements overturned the election result to avoid the termination of the sponsorship of Rewards Affiliates, which was the will of the affiliates:

 

[Insider]

Of course the tax theme from Dave isn't exactly what the OP has initiated and wanted to know.

But it shows also how they handle and operate with it's customers. Payments are always a sensitive subject.

I can't say anything to the taxes but it doesn't matter whether Dave is on wagershare or on revshare. The thing is that they don't calculate the tax correct and given confusing or no answers.

From the beginning my opinion was that CR/RA is a company with transparency and they belong to the best in this industry. As player and partner!

But why do you believe that some companies are become so big ?

Because they are doing all correct ? No, but they have much more possibillities to move from A to B and to build any sub-companies.

I don't want to know how many customers have passed the partners from companies and flowed into own pockets.

The only advantage is that they are one of the fastest companies who pay commission fast and in time.

Although i always recommended the brands from CR, my opinion has unfortunately changed lately.

How Tupee already mentioned "What the industry is doing in general irritates me as well recently."

But we should go back to the topic from CasinoQueen.

 

[AussieDave]

Of course the tax theme from Dave isn't exactly what the OP has initiated and wanted to know.

But it shows also how they handle and operate with it's customers. Payments are always a sensitive subject.

I can't say anything to the taxes but it doesn't matter whether Dave is on wagershare or on revshare. The thing is that they don't calculate the tax correct and given confusing or no answers.

On reading this thread, I made contact with the OP via a PM, what was discussed, told me the OP was not BS'ing. I felt it was my duty, as a respected old-timer, to stand up and say my piece about Rewards Affiliates.

We can praise affiliate managers, programs and their venues, when things go well.

However, what REALLY matters, what sorts the wheat from the stalks, is how a program, their gambling venues, and more importantly, their staff/management handle complaints.

What matters is, how they treat their affiliate partners when the chips are down!

Reiterating, everything is fine and dandy with RA, as long as you don't question their ethics.

Cross that line, and it's generally met with a volley of semantics, duck and dodging, and if that fails, RA staff simply ignore you. The OP has experienced this, and so have I. From all my experiences in these issues at RA/CR, anyone who challenges their ethics, is met with contempt.

Anyway... lets get this thread back on topic, and wait for @CasinoQueen to post those screenshots

 

[Roulette Zeitung]

"From the beginning my opinion was that CR/RA is a company with transparency and they belong to the best in this industry. As player and partner!"

"as player"

Insider, already 2006 a compatriot of us had a bad experience with Crazy Rewards as a player. They tried to cheat him and countless other players with the "wagering requirements" hoax, based on phantom-terms.

Miss Rewards treated him like the last dirt on Earth, tried to wipe him off the map with his issue, with the knowledge, he was right and that there was no wrongdoing by the well known player, still a private member of GPWA. It happened intentionally.

Only after Dave stepped in, some money was paid to the player after more than one year of waiting for justice.

Within the blink of an eye the thread was marked as "resolved".

And don't forget: The truth is, the so called "bonus abuse" cases in this industry, many of them are fabricated, also the provided "evidence". For me without any doubt, from what I have seen, also Crazy Rewards has used this tool to steal money.

Players have been, are and will be dirt for them. This is so obvious, that it's creepy. No surprise, if one knows, that serial-scammer Mr. Jimmy is dealing the cards.

 

[AussieDave]

Only after Dave stepped in, some money was paid to the player after more than one year of waiting for justice.

Within the blink of an eye the thread was marked as "resolved".

The guy had won fair and square. He did NOT deviate/abuse the CR rules, T&C's, or the bonus T&C's. If CR didn't like the way a player, plays:

• Pay out their winnings in full, and close the account.
• If the current casino T&C's/Rules or whatever else governs players bets, are inadequate, then amend those rules/clauses. But you MUST pay the player 1'st.

What CR et al did was, covertly and retroactively change (edited) the casino's T&C's etc., from memory, they added additional T&C's, which they (CR) used to confiscate this player's winnings.

That's 100% dodgy, and 100% unethical, right there.

Hence I stepped in, contacted Renee. And I believe within 24 hours, the player was paid in full.

 

[Alchemist]

I was not aware of any of this, thanks @AussieDave and @Roulette Zeitung

 

[Tupee]

The lady was already involved in the 2011 gigantic cross-promotion scam. Moreover: My very own deep and personal experience is, this pseudo-friendly-posturing is nothing but a double-faced staged behavior, and if you would know, what I know, how she really thinks about affiliates, you would share my opinon. In this thread I will not go into details, more likely in the fact or fiction thread one day. I admit, she had trapped me for some time, but there was one incident, when the truth came to light.

Sidenote: Aussie Dave has more knowledge about the true facts then all his opponents together.

Really, I have not followed the events with CasinoRewards for a long time due to my bad experiences, but I am not surrprised at all to read things like this. What I was surprised at earlier was that she was given credit by certain website owners in case of complaints instead of the players.

 

[AussieDave]

I was not aware of any of this

Not too many casino affiliates, these days, know about RA/CR's past history. The wolves operating this 'slaughter house', will certainly be pleased. The number of daily sheep flowing thru this cash-funnel, would be huge.

 

[AussieDave]

@CasinoQueen - can you please post your screenshot caps, thanks!

 

[Roulette Zeitung]

And that we should never forget the truth ...
Actually, I never wanted to make a video again in my remaining lifetime.
But, as we see, there are some, who don't want to close their eyes and their minds.

So I did it one last time today.
To bring the words "cross promotion scam" unforgotten in the ears and in the minds.

This is for you Dave, Tupee, Alchemist and for those, who don't suffer under Stockholm Syndrome.
And of course, for you, Mr. Jimmy.
Especially for you.

 

[AussieDave]

(sorry to derail, again... but this needs to be said)

Clearly, not too many affiliates, these days, are aware of Rewards Affiliates/Casino Rewards, past, involving a LOT of unethical practices, including, what I'm sure most would class as, tagged player theft etc.

DodgyOnlineCasinoHistory.net, blew the whistle on dodgy affiliate programs, operators and the gambling industry. Unethical actions, including: player theft, commission shaving, untagging tagged players. Pretty much any type of scam which stole from affiliate partners or robbed legit players, I posted about.

With the industry becoming less like the 'old west', and more akin to a regulated market, I felt it was time for a domain name change. Hence, the acronym DOCH.NEWS, was born. Part of this change also included a slightly different direction, or if your prefer, a new mandate.

NB - aside from the old-site running a few ads for approx 12 months, all the expenses, costs, my time etc., etc., incured on it, was paid, directly from my own pocket. No sponsor dollars, nothing. It's the same deal with doch.news. I pay for this from my own pocket.

The old site began in March 2010, and ceased reporting on dodgy gambling industry news, in July 2017. However, the site continued to stay live for a couple more years.

I can't provide an exact date, but at some point (circa 2019), I was asked by RA, if I would consider removing their content from dodgyoninecasinohistory.net. The request, according to them, was because they'd fixed the cross marketing tagging issues, and were on the up and up now.

The new site doch.news, was almost completed. Besides, even before this request, I was going to decommission the old site. So with that, the old site was taken off-line, and the new site, doch.news, opened a few weeks later.

NB - One thing you should always do, is keep backups of sites, and Databases. You never know when you may need them in the future. This is clearly the case with the old site.

A cynical person could not be be blamed for thinking, the TRUE reason Rewards Affiliates wanted that information on their dodgy, unethical past, taken down, was because they were planning to apply for a German Gaming License. Easily found info like this, could possibly hurt their chances.

I took RA on face value, that they and CasinoRewards.com et al, had indeed, cleaned up their act.

However, with the NZ tax grab:
I'm being hammered for 25x MORE, than I should be paying.

The cookies not tracking issue in 2020, and a few other not so ethical acts, including this, the OP's claims, I've now decided the old site's information is going back up.

I hate feeling like my good nature, has been, played on, again.
Told RA/CR last time, don't STEAL from me again... Seems they don't listen!

All this BS by RA/CR is just a rinse and repeat of, their past.

The old content, is live once again (here's some juicy posts to get your started):

Casino Rewards Cross Marketing

Casino Rewards Affiliate program is cross marketing to players referred their casinos by affiliates minus the affiliate tag. Casino Rewards cross marketing.

oldsite.doch.news

Rewards Affiliate Hijacking Players

Rewards Affiliates busted hijacking affiliate tagged players. Rewards Affiliates has 22 online casinos it promotes, all owned by Casino Rewards & eCOGRA sealed.

oldsite.doch.news

Rewards Affiliates Blacklisted

Rewards Affiliates program & Casino Rewards blacklisted at DOCH. Sending mailers to affiliate players, minus the affiliate tags. Rewards affiliates blacklisted.

oldsite.doch.news

Edit:
One more observation... Probably the most important; though possibly most overlooked fact. Any affiliate manager with 15+ years experience in the online gambling industry, can not be SO DUMB, not to know, when, a program is STEALING from their affiliates, and all the other unethical practices. One may even see this as actively conspiring with, an employer, to help them commit fraud and such.

 

[gm2891]

Respect to you @ausiedave and @Leopald for providing this type of information! Been reading your posts now and then for the last 4 years.

It's shame that this forum has fewer visitors than that OTHER one, as it would be good to spread this inf as far as possible.

 

[AussieDave]

@gm2891 - appreciate the kind words, and support, thank you

 

[Roulette Zeitung]

Thank you, gm2891. Aussie Dave and I, we have absolutely no benefit from our help. On the contrary: Often we have to suffer under blackmail, harassment, other threats and the worst thing - censorship - because of our reporting of the truth. But we are fighters, and AGD obviously is the last line of defense against all of that right now.

​

 

[Insider]

It's shame that this forum has fewer visitors than that OTHER one, as it would be good to spread this inf as far as possible.

Why do you believe Renee isn't represented or posting here ?

The whole story would fall over them again and they don't like to have it exploded further.

Other colleagues who earn "good money" with RA have also no interest to post or to critisize.

For a platform owner it's also difficult to handle and not beeing partial if it's a partner.

Therefore it's good that AGD isn't censoring like GPWA or defend a partner only because of money.

Because money determines this business.

 

[gm2891]

Why do you believe Renee isn't represented or posting here ?

The whole story would fall over them again and they don't like to have it exploded further.

Other colleagues who earn "good money" with RA have also no interest to post or to critisize.

For a platform owner it's also difficult to handle and not beeing partial if it's a partner.

Therefore it's good that AGD isn't censoring like GPWA or defend a partner only because of money.

Because money determines this business.

Agree with you!

I think she isn't posting here because she would get instantly roasted by Dave and Leopold ...ha-haa.

Regarding the "colleagues", I guess there are many if not the most who don't give 2 fuks about who they promote - as long as there is some money coming in and that's OK...

They simply don't realize that by promoting shit casinos, they lose their visitors trust. The prime example is Askgamblers which lists anyone and rates them high, many players nowadays are well aware of it and choose to look into their competitor sites instead.

In 2017 when I created an affiliate site, I didn't know who to promote and through the Google search, I landed on GPWA (I do play casino games at times myself and I know which casinos are trusted and they won't fak me up).

Started to do research and discovered that some of their sponsors have very bad feedbacks in the casino players community. So, I decided to list casino programs with casino sites that I tried out myself and from then - never came back to GPWA again till a couple of months ago - just to see what's going on there...lol

There are a few good posters about, most others are crap because they post there for the reason to get their sites listed in the GPWA monthly active member's list. You can see some of their posts are like "good answer, thank you" or "we are doing the same", or " we were thinking to do the same" etc ...lol

Well, looking at their sponsor's obligations anyone can become a sponsor without any probs.

But what about the sponsor's shitty-tricky-terms - no one cares!

 

[AussieDave]

Why do you believe Renee isn't represented or posting here ?

As you can see from this thread, the RA was notified multiple times, but no one turned up. You should also take note... By moving your eyes toward the right, of the above thread. There you will find:

Are CR still stealing our players?

Looks like it's been about a year since anything was posted in here, can anyone update me? I see the huge "Un-Tagged Cross-Promoting" warning at the top of the forum, but are they STILL doing this? The reason I ask, is I just recently started playing at one of their casinos after getting...

www.affiliateguarddog.com

The Rewards Affiliates Widget.

This displays info about the program. In that section, it SPECIFICALLY states: Untagged Cross-Promotion

(side note, why on earth a program who is known; there is oodles of proof, to unethically cross promote, yet, is still an AGD "certified" casino program, really is baffling to me...)

Granted they pay quickly, and their AM's are super attentive (helpful). However, my question is...What is the agenda for this super-help, when, this program has been busted multiple times, up to very shady acts?

I would think the answer to that is...

It's designed to lull affiliates into a false sense of security.

We're very much conditioned in seeing other programs who are dodgy, not answer emails, not pay on time, or at all... However, RA are the complete opposite. It stands to reason then, with these helpful acts, one would have trouble believing RA/CR are acting unethically.

Put simply, this friendliness... lol, it's all a BIG act. It's a RUSE.

Getting back to why RA no longer post here....

https://www.affiliateguarddog.com/community/threads/cr-issue.4308/ (The RA rep, said they would not be posting to AGD again)...

That thread pretty ,much tells the whole cross-marketing scam.

NB - The previous owner of AGD (Andy) also had a forum on the GPWA. Not pointing fingers, but I found it very odd that, the GPWA fought tooth and nail to protect RA/CR, even when factual proof of scams.

As you can see the thread above, was closed by Andy. My thought at the time was, yeah right. More like Mr C at the GPWA told you to close it! Alliances run deep and wide in this industry


Edit:
Does Mr C walk a straight line?

DMOZ, was used by Google as, a secondary site search repository. It was a fair widely known story, a % of dmoz editor were acting as GateKeepers, and using their dmoz editor rights, to list friends/associates, while keep competitors out.

Sometime in circa 2011 It was discover that Mr C, had applied to be a DMOZ editor for the gambling categories. As that CAT had been vacant for some time, he got that position. According to DMOZ rules, a site could only have one (1) listing. However, Mr C gave a particular industry identity multiple listings, in multiple gambling categories. I believe that amount to approx five (5) in total.

Anyway, as time went on, people started seeing those in the Mr C "clique", were being given links in DMOZ, while their competitor's site, were being removed from the directory. Pretty soon it was clear what was going on.

Finally, (can't recall the affiliate's name) but he produced a spreedsheet, which showed ALL "clique" sites, and how they were using DMOZ to game the Google alog. In his usual Modus Operandi, Mr C denied everything. And, claimed he only volunteered to DMOZ on ethical grounds.

Well... from memory, less than 24 hours after Google announced it was de-valuating the DMOZ directory (circa 2012), and in doing so, that meant, all the listing which previously may have assisted in gaining higher SERP's in Google, were no longer valid, Mr C., dropped DMOZ like a hot-cake. He immediately resigned from that position.

The DMOZ directory continue up until March 2017, when it finally closed down.

For the record, it seems my involvement in bring the truth about Mr C and his DMOZ "clique" agenda, cost me my GPWA private membership.

Mr C held a Kangaroo court, and I was unceremoniously kicked (he held that vote, when most of my peer-friends, were away at a conference).

Funny, that... He took a vote on whether the kick RA as GPWA sponsor, and when the members said YES, he overturned that vote. Yet, his Kangaroo court vote for me, stuck. Even though, when my friends returned, and they stirred up a stink, Mr C refused to budge...

Yes, Mr C walking the straight line

 

[Joonas]

Hello,

I am new here and a new casino affiliate as I just started my site in December 2020.

I signed up with Rewards Affiliates as I myself am a player and utilize the casinos they advertise and had good experiences.

in December I signed up one new depositing player. My commissions were $0.47 so not enough to meet the $200 minimum threshold.
It is important to also know I also had a sub-affiliate sign up that month.

January 2021 I had no new depositing players but made $4.27! (Wooohoo retirement is near lol!)

February 2021 I had 5 new registrations and 3 new depositing players! One of which was a high roller and deposited over $25,000. My commissions to be paid for February were $264 in total.

I did not receive commissions and was told on March 9th, 2021 as it was my first payment it would need to clear risk management. No problem

I emailed again after not being paid commissions by March 15, 2021 with zero response.
I emailed again yesterday and no response at first.

After logging into my Rewards Affiliates Dashboard after a few hours of sending my first email I notice monies wagered by players in March 2021 went from $14,200 to $1500!!!!! My March commissions subsequently dropped from $185 to $20!!!

I AGAIN send an email and it was replied too that risk management said I had a link to one of my players and therefore confiscated commissions!!
What?!?! Who decided this and how?!? I have a website which I refer players through and absolutely do not have any links to any players!

I have subscribers of my site and that’s as far as it goes!

I immediately emailed back with follow up questions of how they came to that conclusion and how to clarify and clear it up to which I have yet to be responded too.

I also want to point out that after requesting my 50% first month commissions it was declined. Then when the sub affiliate signed up I was told I was given the wrong link but too bad they don’t reassign sub affiliates.

The last two issues weren’t huge to me and I let slide but now untagging a high roller with a very vague explanation and nothing backing it up and saying my total owed commissions went from $445 to $32!!!

I understand affiliates can take months prior to earning any commissions so I was super excited and this kept me going hard. After yesterday I feel like I’ve been kicked in the stomach and all my hours and days I poured into this are now discredited by a company with zero explanation of how and why they came to such a conclusion without ever approaching me!

I am wondering, what can I do to get this fixed and the rightful players returned to my account? Is this something that happens normally within this industry?

Please help! Any advice is very appreciated!
Thank you!

How is the conversation with them going on now? Did you get a breakdown of the high roller's deposits, wagers, and losses? Or did they give more information how they deemed that the high roller had a connection with you?