Casinomeister removes Rushmore Accreditation

[Ben C-planet]

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Hi,

1.I'M WORKING ON IT
2.POINT TAKEN I WILL
3.AGREED FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS THE WAY TO GO
4.HIGH ROLLERS WHO BET $100 A SPIN WIN THEY ALSO LOOSE HUGE AMOUNTS BUT, WE NOT GOING TO PUBLISH A LOSER'S CORNER

Regards

Ben

Some comments & questions if I may:


WHY?
Baring in mind what you said at the bottom of your post about being solvent and paying $MILLIONS to affiliates every month, WHY can't you pay your affiliates on time?
If Sloto, Club World, MainStreet and others can pay on the 1st of the month, every month, WHY can't you pay by the 15th?
If you do have a legitimate problem, WHY don't you tell your affiliates about it and give them a firm date for payment?
I'm sure they would be much more understanding if you did & there would be far less posts complaining about the shabby way you treat them.



Unfortunately, that's life!



What you need to do is learn how to spot these people early... and then ignore them.
Easier said than done, don't I know it! :



It's only perceived power - in reality they have none.
Get away with too much? Well that's freedom of speech for you - would you prefer censorship...?


Then WHY wont you explain how the RJ's discussed on CM grew at a totally unfeasible rate which could not possibly occur in anything like normal playing conditions?



YES!

[/Devil's Advocate]
KK

PS: Yes. Essex is NRO is Nitro (1 & 2) and has been banned at just about every forum on the net - mainly for just being a total pain in the ass and proving himself incapable of putting his points across in a civil and rational manor.

 

[caruso]

You know, if these guys at rushmore are really that bad and I see some real evidence of it, I will remove them from my site in a heart beat, but I just don't see it.

What I do see. so far, is a lot of smoke, mirrors, whispers and innunendo...

So Lots0, now you've been disabused of your misunderstandings on this matter, where do you stand on your above comments?

I'm even more curious about this pearler:

According to the casino the player got paid because of the pressure from the forums and several forum 'crusaders'. I told them it was a mistake to pay... They thought it would just go away after they payed the blackmail... It didn't, all it did was make them look guilty and open the door even wider for more player fraud. A lesson for other casino managers.

So let me clarify this - it's news to me and I guess everyone else who was involved:

Rushmore told you that they regarded paying this player as a response to "blackmail". This is irrespective of the fact that at no point did they provide any evidence to support their theft, ie. that 1) there was no fraud, 2) there was no identity problem, 3) there was no evidence of anything untoward in his Moneybookers account.

Irrespective of having stolen this player's money with nothing whatsoever to back up the theft, they then considered paying their debt a response to "blackmail".

I've got this correct, yes?

 

[caruso]

I've not followed this case.

And besides, hasn't CM always made it clear he does not tolerate players who are not legit. To me any player who admits to giving false information is dubious to start with.

You're right. You've not followed this case. So why you think you then have the right to make comments such as this, when you acknowledge you have no knowledge of the matter, I find odd.

The player at no point supplied information other than that which was both true and specifically requested by the casino, ie. permanent residence.

Can we put a lid on that once and for all?

A lot of people I respect have sided with this player... I have not.

Please explain exactly why, if you would be so kind.

However, I remain far more interested in confirmation of Rushmore's claim to have been blackmailed.

My God, this industry sucks so bad.

 

[TheGamblingGuru]

Welcome to AGD Forum Caruso!
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[lots0]

Please explain exactly why, if you would be so kind.

caruso... go away, cry in your beer and start a fight somewhere else.

I don't owe you you a damn thing. I don't know why you are acting like I do. I don't even know you nor do I want to know you.

I especially don't owe you any kind of an explanation.

@Guard Dog I thought this was a professional forum... for professionals, not for drunken pissed off non-professional types.

The Rushmore Group is one of the best out there for the US market.

 

[caruso]

Thank you, GG.

So Lots0, you were lying, right? Rushmore never made any such claim about being "blackmailed"?

I think it's pretty damn important to know. Maybe not so much for Rushmore, who I don't seriously think made any such claim, but about the posters who would fabricate something like this, and falsely attribute such damning statements to people who didn't make them.

According to the casino the player got paid because of the pressure from the forums and several forum 'crusaders'. I told them it was a mistake to pay... They thought it would just go away after they payed the blackmail

Yes, I think you owe the people of this forum an explanation for this, if lie it was.

 

[lots0]

Thank you, GG.

So Lots0, you were lying, right?

Screw you...

 

[dominique]

Ok, guys, stop right here.

There are to be NO INSULTS here.

This IS a professional forum, if you want to cuss and call each other names, go someplace else please. There are lots of places that will let you do it.

You can discuss anything you like, but no attacks or personal insults.

 

[lots0]

If this is a forum for professionals... why do I have to deal with insults from a non-professional, that really has no business in this forum?

 

[ang7]

This IS a professional forum ...

LOL ... You've got no clue, cause all of them are jokes: THIS is the ONLY professional forum - with no interest of conflict, like the rest of them, because it will always stay ad free, without affiliate connection to anyone.

Just take a look, who the mods over there are:

http :// ng-gambling.dailyforum.net

(remove the spaces)

(nro)

 

[lots0]

I also noticed the casino paid the player. Suggests to me they either made a mistake or they feel they can't fully back up their initial findings.

Ever pay someone... just to shut them up? Even thought you know your right and they are wrong?

People just reach a point where it's worth the money, just to have the unwarranted attacks stop...

But the attacks don't stop after you pay... the attacks only increase, because when you pay and you don't really owe the money, it sure makes you look guilty.

 

[caruso]

Ok, guys, stop right here.

There are to be NO INSULTS here.

That's a plural, right?

So I'm included, right?

Point out what I said that was a personal insult. Thanks.

Oh, and Dominique: where do you stand on posters - on your "professional forum" - making bogus statements about casinos being blackmailed?

(I'm assuming it's bogus. I'm happy to be corrected any time.)

 

[dominique]

Caruso, stop trying to bait me, you know that doesn't work.

Lotso, Caruso has a website.

I said no insults and no personal attacks, I mentioned no names.

This thread is going down the toilet, and you know it.

We don't do that here at AGD, we discuss anything and speak our opinions freely, without fear of being attacked.

Anyone can say anything they like, as long as it's not a personal attack or insult.

Clear? You guys can agree to disagree, or you can bring new facts to light.

 

[ang7]

So, you're an innocent victim, that has been mistreated by the casino for an eternity, but what is your first response like? The most common human reaction, when confronted with this kind of accusations, would be honest indignation, but what you're doing is quite interesting:

The solution of this "puzzle" is easy ...

It starts with this sentence. But what about all the others? It's more than strange, that you unconsiously choose to ignore them and concentrate on just ONE single issue, that you consider somehow easy to solve. For the skilled psychologist it's of course quite obvious, that you feel very uneasy about the entire issue, if you go about it this way.

I will reply to other posts later.

So you have been watching this thread for a while and had more than enough time to make up your thoughts. What's the point then, not to make a more general response? I will try to tell you that: "I will reply to other posts later.", translates to: "I don't want to talk about it" - because you have good reasons to.

That's the last point i wanted to make here, before i was banned.

Oh, and Dominique: where do you stand on posters - on your "professional forum" - making bogus statements about casinos being blackmailed?

The stance on professional shit stirrers is more interesting.

 

[caruso]

Caruso, stop trying to bait me, you know that doesn't work.

I'm not baiting you. I'm asking you to answer my question as to why you suggested I "attacked" this character. I'm not going to get an answer, which is an answer in itself. Clearly, I did not. And you know it.

Lots0 said Rushmore claimed they had been "blackmailed". Either they did, which is reprehensible, or he is lying, which is the same.

Can we please clear this up? Did Rushmore claim they were blackmailed, or is Lots0 lying?

(And FYI, "ang7" above is our favourite forum troll.)

 

[ang7]

Can we please clear this up? Did Rushmore claim they were blackmailed, or is Lots0 lying?

Yes, we can - embalu is logged in since eternity, but doesn't respond; the game is over now; you have been exposed as the joke, that you're; nobody takes you seriously anymore - even on beatingbonuses.

 

[lots0]

Lots0 said Rushmore claimed they had been "blackmailed". Either they did, which is reprehensible, or he is lying, which is the same.

Can we please clear this up? Did Rushmore claim they were blackmailed, or is Lots0 lying?

(And FYI, "ang7" above is our favorite forum troll.)

Your twisting my words.

I'm wondering if your a xxxxx or just an xxxxx caruso... haven't decided yet... but I am leaning toward xxxxx.

// added... what happened was blackmail, in my opinion. If you don't like it... too bad.

 

[dominique]

I'm not baiting you. I'm asking you to answer my question as to why you suggested I "attacked" this character. I'm not going to get an answer, which is an answer in itself. Clearly, I did not. And you know it.

Lots0 said Rushmore claimed they had been "blackmailed". Either they did, which is reprehensible, or he is lying, which is the same.

Can we please clear this up? Did Rushmore claim they were blackmailed, or is Lots0 lying?

(And FYI, "ang7" above is our favourite forum troll.)

Yeah I know it's nitro. Andy will ban him - again.

I answered your question btw - I named no names and hence didn't personally address you. If I address someone in particular, I say so explicitly. You know that, too. You've known me long enough.

Lotso says what he believes to be the case, based on whatever. That does not make it a lie.

And this whole thing is getting very childish - kinda thing I expect to be going on when I babysit.

Lotso, go wash your mouth out with soap!

 

[lots0]

Lotso, go wash your mouth out with soap!

Ok this conversation has left a bad taste in my mouth, anyway.

 

[ang7]

Yeah I know it's nitro. Andy will ban him - again.

It's only a matter of time and you'll share the fate of caruso, madame.