Profitov Partners - Approved Traffic Turned “Fraud” After Conversions

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I am sharing this case because the issue with Profitov Partners is not simply a payment dispute. The main problem is their inconsistency in what was agreed, what was approved, and what they later claimed after conversions were generated.

I was first contacted by their affiliate manager with an offer to run two brands for GR, Dragonia and Robocat. The offers were presented as “Google Search General Offerwall”, but at no point in the initial conversation was this described as an exclusive traffic restriction. The only concrete condition I was given was that traffic must not be fraudulent, misleading, incentivized, or bonus hunting (like every other partnership in the world).

After that, they asked for performance information, approved my account, created the working chat, activated the offers, and sent the links. They also asked me to share my websites before launch, which I did. They reviewed the sites and confirmed that everything was fine to start.

The campaign then went live and was monitored by their side from the beginning. A few days later, after conversions had already been generated, they suddenly raised concerns about poor traffic quality. Even at that stage, they still did not claim that I had violated any traffic-source restriction. Instead, they asked additional questions and continued discussing performance.

When I explained that my site has an established audience and that part of my visitors are returning users who also come back through my social pages (through daily posts), they did not reject that explanation. On the contrary, they acknowledged it, asked follow-up questions, thanked me for the clarification, and said they would discuss it with the advertiser.

Only much later, when payment became the issue, they changed the basis of their argument. At that point they started claiming that I had been approved only for “Google Search” traffic, that I had used a non-approved source, and even that I had referred to “Facebook communities”, which is not true. This was never the agreed framework at the start, and it was never raised as a restriction while the campaign was active.

This is exactly where the inconsistency lies. If the traffic source had really been outside the approved terms, that should have been stated clearly before launch or at the moment they reviewed the funnel and websites. It was not. If the traffic had truly been unacceptable under their rules, it should have been stopped immediately on that basis. It was not. Instead, the campaign was approved, monitored, discussed, and only later reinterpreted after conversions were already delivered.

There is another important point here. Their own terms state that if suspicious traffic is detected, it should be stopped immediately, and traffic is not paid only if the partner continues sending traffic after being instructed to stop. I complied with their instruction and removed the brands as soon as they told me to stop. On their own wording, the traffic delivered before that point should still be payable.

The explanations they later used also do not hold up well. I was told there was “identical behavior”, yet deposits ranged from 10 EUR to 100 EUR. I was also shown an Ahrefs screenshot as if it were proof of actual user activity, even though Ahrefs is only an estimation tool for search visibility and does not reflect real traffic behavior.

My issue here is simple. Profitov Partners approved the campaign, monitored it while it was running, did not enforce any clear traffic-source restriction during the active period, and only after conversions were generated introduced a different interpretation in order to justify non-payment.

My agreement was with Profitov Partners, not with their advertiser. So from my perspective, this is a case of a network changing its position after the fact and refusing to honor the deal on the basis of arguments that were not part of the original agreement.

I am posting this so other affiliates can judge the timeline for themselves. I have the full chat history available.
 

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Hello @stsopas please note that we do not have this affiliate program listed with us. However, please let us know if you would like to reach out to their representatives on your behalf.
 

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Not surprised you don't have them listed. Sure, I'd like that but as I see so far they will come up with any random claim just to avoid paying. Please let me know if you need the chat screenshots.
 

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Sure, send us via private message along with you affiliate account username.
 

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Hi, thank you for that, I appreciate your help.

Unfortunately, based on my recent communication with them, they seem quite determined not to proceed with the payment. I still hope this situation can be reviewed properly, but at the moment their position looks pretty clear.

Thanks again for your support.
 

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@stsopas

There must be something in the data that they are seeing to justify withholding commissions. I say this, because, since joining AGD a year ago, you have opened 4 threads regarding non-payment by various operators.

How exactly do you send / generate traffic? I know you tried to explain it above, but it's all very "murky". If you can also share the details of the deal and the actual numbers the traffic created, we could perhaps offer an opinion based on all the facts.

Thank you,
 

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@stsopas

There must be something in the data that they are seeing to justify withholding commissions. I say this, because, since joining AGD a year ago, you have opened 4 threads regarding non-payment by various operators.

How exactly do you send / generate traffic? I know you tried to explain it above, but it's all very "murky". If you can also share the details of the deal and the actual numbers the traffic created, we could perhaps offer an opinion based on all the facts.

Thank you,
Out of the four threads, two have already been resolved. In the case of Moonshine Partners, it turned out to be a cash flow issue on their side and I was eventually paid in full in two installments. In the case of Honeybetz, there was never any claim of fraudulent traffic. The issue was that the manager who initially closed the deal with me had not communicated certain KPIs. After meeting their new manager in person at iGB Barcelona, we clarified everything and agreed on a final amount, which was paid.

Affrepublic, on the other hand, is a separate situation that I consider a clear scam and not something open to interpretation.

That brings us to the current case. It’s important to draw a clear line here: fraud cannot be defined arbitrarily based on whether the outcome suits the operator. Low player spend is not fraud. A higher conversion rate is not fraud. A player choosing to register and play across two or more brands is also not fraud. These are normal patterns in this vertical. The only scenario where such behavior could be considered problematic is in the case of bonus abuse, and there are established mechanisms and controls in place to detect and verify that. No such evidence has been presented in this case.

Over the past two years of running my sites, I have worked with more than 30 operators. I have been paid for a total of 36 invoices I issued, plus around 12 additional payments that did not require invoicing. I have also received flat fees for placements and continue to work with several well-established brands in the industry.

During this time, there have been cases where, after a test period, partners requested to switch from hybrid deals to revshare because they considered the volume or quality of traffic to be lower than expected. This is part of the business and I have never disputed such decisions.

However, with the exception of Affrepublic and now Profitov, no partner has ever claimed fraudulent traffic or refused to pay agreed commissions.

All of the above can be verified if needed, and I am open to sharing additional data privately. At the same time, I believe it is reasonable not to go into full operational detail in a public thread.

Thank you
 
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Good afternoon! My name is Roman, I represent the company Profitov.Partners and I hold the position of Head of Affiliates.
We have already provided all the information about this case in the work chat, and now we are duplicating it here.

On behalf of the company, I want to comment in stages:

1. Non-compliance of traffic source.

At the very beginning, when we were discussing the terms of the deal, the partner sent us information about his site, attaching information about the amount of traffic there, supporting all this with a screenshot from the Google Search console.

That is why we did not have any questions about the previously proposed offers and the source of traffic, namely Google Search Offerwall, however, as it turns out during our proceedings, there is no organic traffic on the site, as well as the site is not indexed by keys, i.e. all traffic to the site comes there from Facebook groups.
Please note that neither at the time of approval, nor at the moment when we sent the full terms, we were not corrected or informed that the source would be different.​
When agreeing on each offer, we clearly indicate the conditions, and they can be found in the offer card. Below I attach screenshots from the offer card, with information about acceptable traffic sources.

(joxi.ru/mEppn6vc9eNRwr* - screenshot with information about acceptable traffic sources.)

As a result, information about the restrictions was clearly written out on our part, and information about the launch conditions was clearly written out, no additional information was provided regarding Facebook communities. It was impossible for us to guess or understand that the traffic did not match the source specified in the deal.
2. Traffic quality and campaign launch.
  • After providing some FTD, we expressed some concern about the quality of traffic and reported information about low quality of traffic.
  • We provided time for the campaign because the partner assured us that his traffic would show better results over time.
  • After 1 week, the advertiser stopped the campaign because the traffic quality had not changed. The traffic also looked suspicious, as the conversion from click to registration and from registration to deposit was 100%.
The terms of each offer contain information about the circumstances under which the partner may not receive the payment, and a screenshot with all the information that has been clearly spelled out will be attached below.​
(joxi.ru/Ajee1xjcZE0bx2* - screenshot with information about payment terms, as well as information about traffic requirements)​
On high-rated deals, we always monitor traffic starting with a few FTDs, because we cannot put the advertisers we work with at risk.​
But we don't make any hasty conclusions about the quality of the traffic, or the substitution of the source. We clearly understand that any traffic needs time to improve its performance, and we always stand by our partner's side if we do not see violations.​
But that's not the worst part of the situation. After all, in case of our mistake, we are always ready to take responsibility for it, but we received traffic that was marked with a fraud alert.​
At the time of writing my response, the quality of traffic has remained unchanged for a month.:​
Robocat [GR] - 7 FTD, 4 Redepositors and average summ of deposits 53,5 EUR​
Dragonia [GR] - 7 FTD, 5 Redepositors and average summ of deposits 40,7 EUR​
(joxi.ru/2ZYYNgpTkOpqnm* and joxi.ru/2aeekLVcZBPp52* - two screenshots from the advertiser's account with traffic quality for each brand)​
Since the quality of traffic on the two brands looks almost identical, I will describe this in a little more detail​

3. Details about fraud alerts and traffic quality.

All the players listed during the campaign had the following irrefutable evidence that they had been fraudulently attracted:​
  • Intersection of IP addresses.
  • UserAgent/DeviceIntersection/MobileOperator/Operating system/The type of device, and that's just what we see on our platform.

    (joxi.app/mobbW8jcokVJor* - screenshots with proofs)

    We also received additional information from the advertiser:
  • Each of the players spent a strictly limited period of time inside the casino, and some of the players made deposits in parallel in two casinos at once.
  • Player behavior, each pair of players inside the casino made the same deposit, and the same sum of redeposits, and never returned to the product. (joxi.ru/mzQQqL3sGQ1aNr* screenshot with proofs)

    One of the signs that the traffic was motivated was the time of making deposits, and the time difference in making deposits (5 out of 7 players made a deposit at two casinos at once with a frequency of 2 to 10 minutes, while two of them made deposits at two casinos in parallel), which will be shown in the screenshot: joxi.ru/rweeq6ZcvbN652*
These proofs clearly demonstrate that the traffic was attracted in a fraudulent or motivated way.​


As a result, I consider this case to be completely exhausted, I have shown and explained in great detail and with all the evidence why the traffic was rejected.

I would like to add that Profitov.Partners has been on the market for more than 5 years, and key employees of the company have been working in the field of affiliate marketing for more than 9 years. We work with all the key advertisers in the market, as well as with all major agencies and teams. You can explore all forums, any websites, as well as all media communities dedicated to our field, request feedback on working with us from any major holding company or advertiser, but you will not find any negative information about working with us.

And even in cases where one of the advertisers turns out to be an unreliable payer (fraudster), our company assumes the risks and is ready to cover the costs of our partners. We always advocate honest, trusting and long-term cooperation.

In conclusion, I want to say that not every FTD that a customer attracts will be paid for by the advertiser. Any advertiser expects to see lively and active traffic that will pay off in the future, this does not need to be explained to anyone in the field of affiliate marketing.

*this is a link to a screenshot that you can paste into your URL.
 
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I also want to give a small comment from myself: we work with any traffic source (except fraudulent ones), as long as it is of high quality. Advertisers don't care where the traffic comes from, as long as the players are alive and playing their product, as well as making money in the future.

We also requested feedback on this partner from our colleagues and direct advertisers and found an intersection of IP addresses. And we also see that there are already open topics on the forum with the same problem that occurred with us. We advise you to start provide high-quality traffic and consider this topic closed and are no longer ready to return to it.
 
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