Merry Christmas from the US department of Justice

[dominique]

You have got to read this:


Department Of Justice Flip-Flops On Internet Gambling - Forbes

 

[michael26a]

That's unbelievable, and we only find out after they basically destroy the gambling and poker industries. I hope a lot of people sue to recover their losses when this gets out. Although I find it hard to believe that the US government was unaware of the conditions of the Wire Act. To my knowledge, the UIGEA is a violation of international law, but that hasn't stopped them from enforcing it.

 

[lots0]

That is the BEST NEWS I have had in months and months.

I just hope this is not some cruel joke....


HOLEY SHIT TIME TO PARTY!!!!!!!!

I have two messages for the US Justice Dept. :emoticon-0172-mooni and :emoticon-0173-middl

Now maybe I can get back my money that the Justice Dept stole from me. They have been stonewalling on giving me my money back.

I would also like to sue them for the loss of business income they caused by their over zealous enforcement of Laws that didn't exist.

//ADDED

We still have the very flawed UGIEA law to deal with. However, Under the UGIEA it is the States that decide if online gambling is legal or illegal... So it looks like we may have some open states and some closed states for online gambling in the very near future.


Also like to point out that releasing this news on the Friday before Xmas is the Justice Dept's way of trying to let as few people as possible know about this reversal. So Spread the word far and wide....

 

[vd752]

Take it easy, let's see who will profit from that - I think some Vegas guys, or some state lotteries ... ;(

 

[dominique]

God I hate this default to quick reply!!!!

The last paragraph of the official statement:

Given that the Wire Act does not reach interstate transmissions of wire
communications that do not relate to a “sporting event or contest,” and that
the state-run lotteries proposed by New York and Illinois do not involve
sporting events or contests, we conclude that the Wire Act
does not prohibit the lotteries described in these proposals. In light of that conclusion, we need
not consider how to reconcile the Wire Act with UIGEA, because the Wire Act
does not apply in this situation. Accordingly, we express no view about the proper interpretation or scope of
UIGEA.

 

[lots0]

Take it easy, let's see who will profit from that - I think some Vegas guys, or some state lotteries ... ;(

If that's what you want to think, be my quest.

Personally I see barriers being taken down and I see opportunities to get back to making some decent money.

We are not talking regulation here... We are taking about laws being removed as an impediment to my business. The opposite to regulation.

I only know of three states that specifically outlaw online gambling, WA, HI and UT... that leaves 47 states and some territories that will be WIDE OPEN to online gambling. Ya it's time for me to party....

 

[lots0]

Ya not to happy with these quick replies myself.

Given that the Wire Act does not reach interstate transmissions of wire
communications that do not relate to a “sporting event or contest,” and that
the state-run lotteries proposed by New York and Illinois do not involve
sporting events or contests, we conclude that the Wire Act
does not prohibit the lotteries described in these proposals. In light of that conclusion, we need
not consider how to reconcile the Wire Act with UIGEA, because the Wire Act
does not apply in this situation. Accordingly, we express no view about the proper interpretation or scope of
UIGEA.

This just makes my case stronger.
The UGIEA is based on the Wire Act. The wording in the UGIEA is very specific to "ILLEGAL" gambling transactions.
If the Wire Act is not valid on this issue (non-sporting gambling transactions)... then the UGIEA is not valid for all other types of gambling transactions. Simply because, non-sporting online gambling will not be ILLEGAL, on a federal level.

I do see this really sucking for the sports book guys in the states though... seems to me the Justice Dept will be going after them with everything they got now.

 

[bonustreak]

HOLEY SHIT TIME TO PARTY!!!!!!!!

I did that!!! Just think this might be the thing that stops us affiliates from being shaved so much!!

 

[lots0]

Check out this in-depth article from I. Nelson Rose, Legal expert
A Present from the DoJ: Internet Lotteries (and Poker?) Are Legal. 12/24/2011

 

[constant]

Hi there

Found this on Forbes as well:
How The Las Vegas Casino Companies Became The Champions Of Online Poker In America - Forbes

Regards
Constant

 

[lots0]

I have been having a discussion about this new development over at the gpwa forums.

Some of you might want to check it out.
Breaking News: DOJ says only sportsbetting violates Wire Act

I don't think a lot of people yet realize the magnitude of this decision by the Justice Dept., I guess that is why so many folks are not more exited about it.

The fact is... With this decision the Justice Dept has, in effect, legalized online poker and online casino gambling in the USA. It is no longer illegal to transfer online gambling funds, unless it is sports betting money.

That simple fact will allow the payment processors to open their doors in the US again.

 

[casdir]

Even though it is technically legal now, I don't think anything has happened yet with payment processing. As soon as credit cards, bank wires, and the other main payment become legal again, I'm going to celebrate very hard

 

[Online18Casino]

Even though it is technically legal now, I don't think anything has happened yet with payment processing. As soon as credit cards, bank wires, and the other main payment become legal again, I'm going to celebrate very hard

I agree, once it becomes easier for players to deposit, I will see a big change. Sign-ups the last two weeks have been climbling, and I think that has a lot to do with this hitting the news (or at least the forums around the internet).