How are BetAt, Thrills, Cherry, etc. for you?

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    bonustreak

    bonustreak Administrator Staff Member

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    Sure thing have Katy reach out on Skype please :) Sad I am not going to Amsterdam! I hope to get Berlin under my belt this year!
     
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    SnazzySlots

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    I can relate to all of you - 99.99% of the brands you listed are poor converters and performers. Betat/ Slotty used to give me an OK income, then all of a sudden everything went to shyte and stayed that way. All those depositing players never came back.

    Thrills / SuperLenny and Kaboo are hopeless.

    32 Dead et al - Dead

    GoWild - Dead

    Mr. Green - Bad

    Energy - Pathetic (Watch for their 10% Comm rule here)

    Next / WildSlots and Casinoluck - Pretty Bad too

    I dont promote Cherry Brands very hard - They are on my site, but they dont do well for me either.

    Leovegas - 1 good month out of 12

    BGO - Used to make decent money here - then like Slotty, everything disappeared.

    I don't do too badly with the Slotsmagic group.

    Casumo - Decent

    VS - Decent

    I sometimes wonder, ive had HIGH ROLLERS at a lot of brands and they just never come back. They are there for a month or sometimes 3 then gone never to be seen again.

    The only exceptions where i can still see them are at GUTS / VS and Casumo
     
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    Biti

    Biti Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Energy Casino indeed, very crappy program with their pathetic conversion, worse retention and even worse terms & conditions, hence that 10%. Pathetic is the right word. Having such a poor conversion and punishing affiliates for that. But at conferences playing the big shot with a big booth.
     
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    bonustreak

    bonustreak Administrator Staff Member

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    Mattias

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    If I look at one of my partners, LeoV, SE is my biggest market but player value in NO is twice as high. UK is by far the worst when it comes to retention even if conversion is ok. In other words if I look at UK I would say that they are BAD but when I look at NO I would say that they are the BEST.
     
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    Casino-Matt

    Casino-Matt Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    BetAt & Slotty Vegas
    = Betat nothing, Slotty sometimes nothing, sometimes very good

    GIG
    = trying to strike a new deal with them so I can start earning from the very good conversion numbers

    Luck, Next & Wild Slots
    = They were bad before they went downgraded platforms, now they are a classic rogue... the only depositors are big winners

    Thrills, Super Lenny & Kaboo
    = very very shady, the brands are very nice so where are the players?

    Cherry, Euro-Lotto & Euroslots
    = Never scored a dime so removed them... was tempted to re-add them to my rebranded site but now not so sure

    Slots Magic (Diabolical!)
    = don't trust the casino for players so never added them

    BGO
    = only just added but doing OK

    Leo Vegas
    = decent

    Casino Room
    = very very weak

    Mr. Green
    = one of the very worst performers

    Energy
    = big fat zero, just awful

    Casumo
    = almost as bad as Mr Green

    Video Slots
    = as I can't see the depo stats I am not sure, but suspect should be much better considering the number of players

    32 Red
    = the very very worst, 2.5 years in and on €49 revenue... players either win or I get between 1 and 3 euros rev per player... very shady

    Betclic
    = don't promote

    L&L
    = Good

    Karamba
    = rogue IMO

    Ladbrokes
    = don't promote

    Netbet
    = v. poor

    Playgrand
    = don't promote

    Unibet
    = not added yet

    GoWild
    = poor, since the platform move they look very shady

    iAffs
    = good

    Cruise
    = steady, have had some good months with them

    Every Bitcoin casino
    = very dodgy (including Bitstarz)

    Betting Partners
    = good

    Imperial Network
    = Most are terrible with the odd gem hidden away

    William Hills
    = My number 1 top performer by a long long way
     
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    Casino-Matt

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    PS~ Spot the deliberate mistake ;-)
     
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    Engineer

    Engineer Super Moderator

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    LOL -- I saw your deliberate mistake. I was like, WTF?! And then I saw your second post. :D
     
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    AussieDave

    AussieDave 18 years & still going!

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    Surpisingly my best performing program month in month out, in the last (almost) 3 years, is Rewards. Snagged a whale ages ago, and he keeps playing every month since 2014.

    Allslots was doing ok for me most months, that was until they merged with FA. Now I'm down at least 50% in commissions, and getting hammered by 27.5% NZ tax (aka GST). Thing is, FA claim NZ players incur a 15% tax, so stuffed if I know why I'm being hammer an additional 12.5% GST???!!!

    Over and above that, FullCreamAffiliates are holding their own. Last month, after deciding enough is enough with both BS and BP, I added all of the FCA casinos. That produced an addition 75% commission on what I'd been making from them, so that's a positive.

    DeckMedia - Just added Slotocash a few weeks ago. Made commission for July, but only $60 or so. Still not enough time to tell yet. Will give then another 3 months.

    For the record, I've never promote a heap of casinos. But, those I have promoted have also done well for me. However, things seem to be getting worse. As others have mentioned, more players, large player base, more deposits, yet nothing changes. Least that was my experience with Buffalo, and now it seems FA (AllSlots) has headed down this path too.

    Some of this I can attribute to players having an abundance of choices. Though, loyal players who have been with me for literally years, have, over what seems a 12 month period at BP, started going MIA. Very strange. Reiterating, I was doing double the deposits, and more than double the player base after 12 months on intense marketing, yet making far less than I was previously, with far less deposits, far less players.

    Maybe now BP had to cut the hacker loose, they've started shaving more... IDK, just seems odd.
     
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    Casino-Matt

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    I've pretty much given up on the USA market. Deck Media for me have done nothing most months with 2 months where I landed dolphins (not quite a whale). Unfortunately they didn't stick around.

    Speaking of USA... I had a couple of whales at Genesys Affiliates but of course they dissapeared after 1 or 2 months. But they were doing ok in general until some point in 2016 when everything just went dead. Even now I've stopped promoting them a long time ago, I occasionally see players suddenly playing thousands and thousands in spins but no record of the player even registering, let alone depositing. Apparently they are using no depo bonuses... Hmmmm.... I might give them one last crack of the whip on the new domain as I've got not much to lose with the USA market as it stands.
     
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    Kadabra

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    Looked at your sites - surprised you are making anything with Slotland.

    Check Casino Extreme. They are doing well for me the past few months (although a drop last month).
     
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    AussieDave

    AussieDave 18 years & still going!

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    I can't do jack with CE, I'd probably do better with SlotLand - that's saying something. Affiliate-A can do extremely well with Program-A, but Affiliate-B, with a similar site (targeting the same organic traffic), may not be able to covert zip with that Program-A.
     
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    Kadabra

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    Funny how it is, but you are right.
    Slotland - I earned something in the area of $50 after few months :)
     
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    Casino-Matt

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    Ahhh yes, Slotland/Winaday I had not mentioned yet. I like their casinos as a player but they are a complete dog for affiliates. Still as the USA players have so little choice I have kept them on as they offer something fun and different.
     
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    Casino-Matt

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    Totally forgot to mention all the IGC white labels. Like Honest (hahaha) Partners, Cashmio, Pop, Shadow, Larry etc

    All just awful.
     
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    KasinoKing

    KasinoKing Player turned affiliate.

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    Thanks VERY much for your post!
    Good to know it's not just me who has these "apparently good looking casinos" who are doing crap-all...
    Either players just don't like them - or there is something dodgy going on :(

    Whatever it is, your post has helped encourage me to Dump the Duffers! ;)

    KK
     
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    KasinoKing

    KasinoKing Player turned affiliate.

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    I didn't think it was a mistake... just a VERY FUNNY joke! :D
    KK
     
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    Casino-Matt

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    Out of interest, how is everyone doing with Betsson / Lounge ?
     
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    KasinoKing

    KasinoKing Player turned affiliate.

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    In a word: Awful!

    They used to be OK-ish until they left the UK market - then my earnings plummeted.
    e.g. for the whole of 2016 I earned $355.
    If I had half a brain-cell I would have dumped them by now :oops:

    I think they may be taking UK again now (?), but even if they are, I probably won't bother carrying on with them when I re-vamp my site unless they can offer players something exceptional...

    KK
     
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    Casino-Matt

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    As far as I am aware Mr Smith and Casino Euro both take UK players.
     

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