Gainer Casino forum spamming

[Vladi]

Our forums have been spammed multiple times now by a "Maria James", similar to this (links removed):

Online casinos can be divided into three groups based on their interface: web-based casinos, download-based casinos, and more recently live casinos. Some casinos offer multiple interfaces.

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Maria James
hxxp://www.gainercasino.com

Apart from the incredibly stupid sounding casino name, I don't know anything about them. Their site has a playtech and Windows Casino logo, text throughout refers to themselves as "Blue Duck Casino" and "Windows Casino" so who knows. There is also a link to some crap looking white label casino creation service.

Avoid this one, they are in our scum bucket.

 

[Guard Dog]

My guess is that they are not a real casino, but a spammer that is creating a fake casino website and then launching the download for some other property. That was pretty typical not so long ago. If I had time I would test it on my isolation PC, but I just don't have the time today

 

[Guard Dog]

It is a great loss, that you had not time to test on your isolation PC yesterday. If you could had done, you could assertain, that the Gainer Casino is a real casino. It would had been the best, if you check it first, and make your declaration only after your investigation. I think, this would be only the ethical procedure from an administrator of AGD.

To speak anything without any evidance can make anybody from the street. For declaring untruth, ADG must have an administrator.

Well.... I did not state a 'truth' here. I only offered up what is very typical from past experiences.

However - since you have 'called me out' about this casino, I will do some 'due dilligence'.

I am on my isolation PC at the moment. I will do some testing with the casino. Also - anyone who has a spam email from this casino, please send it to me with full headers and I will track that back as well.

thank you.

 

[Guard Dog]

Bundas - The link titles that you have there are generated based upon site title. That is a default vBulletin function and nothing we have done to disparage you. That is your SEO's handy work, not ours.

That is fine if there is no spam mail... I am only asking for it. Doesn't mean it exists.

How about this..... Vladi, please send me any information you have on your forum user that spammed your forum with this casino (Gainer Casino). If you have trouble finding that information, contact me and I will point you in the right direction.


Here is what I have found so far, but I am done with this problem for today as it is taking up more of my time than I would like:

1. Norton Antivirus will IMMEDIATELY remove this casino's setup program as it feels it is a trojan horse.

2. I turned off Norton to allow the casino to run and it is a Windows Casino.


The casino contacted a server with the following whois information:

OrgName: Mirror Image Internet, Inc.
OrgID: MIR1
Address: 2 Highwood Drive
Address: Suite 100
City: Tewksbury
StateProv: MA
PostalCode: 01876
Country: US

Other domains on this server:

1. Autoclubspeedwaylatino.com
2. Barbiecollector.com
3. Barbiegirls.com
4. Laptopacadapter.com
5. Laptops4less.com
6. Pdainternalbattery.com
7. Phoenixraceway.com
8. Qbpplearning.com



I will trace all the TCP/UDP/HTTP/DNS/TLSv/ and other packets tomorrow when I have more time.


So far.... I haven't found a whole lot except that the casino packages (i.e., game CABS and such) are on a strange server.


Just an FYI - I am not trying to disparage the casino. Just trying to find out facts here. This may very well be a quality, new casino. I just don't have any information to prove this at the moment.

If anyone (i.e., Greek or others) would like to help me track this down - I'd be glad for the help. My time is limited in this capacity.

Thanks again.

 

[dominique]

Bundas, you are really getting on my nerves.

Stop calling admin unethical, you are the unethical one and this whole thread is just so you can get in your spammy links. You have a thread with the name of the casino in the title, all kinds of casino keyword links live and pointing at the casino, now you have a post with the name in fat print and underlined.

How stupid do you think I am?

You are a spammer and nothing else.

Now go ahead and attack me with a post that has - how many links in it? How many times will you mention the casino name?

 

[Vladi]

The info I have about "mariajames" the Gainer Casino spammer is this:

mariajames555@gmail.com
Registered Country: India
Posts from:
117.193.66.45 (India)
117.193.64.35 (India)

Looks like the Gainer Casino Spam is coming from an Indian "SEO" spamming operation.

Did I mention the Gainer Casino Spam and that I think Gainer Casino is Rogue?

 

[Vladi]

bundas, clearly English is not your first language, so I'll forgive your misunderstanding of the word "guess" (look it up in a dictionary).

However, your conduct as the supposed "owner" of the apparently rogue Gainer casino is only making things worse. How many affiliates are going to read this thread and decide they would want to work with someone as "professional" as you? So .. er .. keep up the good work, you're doing affiliates a great service.

 

[dominique]

Please go back in the history and check your administrator's comment No 2, where ho wrote: "My guess is that they are not a real casino, but a spammer that is creating a fake casino website".

Your administrator wrote a simple crap about the Gainer Casino. Why do you think, that I - the owner of the Gainer Casino – have to leave without any words the untruth statements of your administrator.

I expect you to apologize because of this lie, and declare.that the Gainer Casino is a real casino.

There is my answer - you spammed the name 3 times.

Apologize? You must have been drinking or smoking something funny!

If this was my board I would ban you. But that is up to admin.

Admin can guess anything they like. He said "I guess you are not a real casino" and not that you are not a real casino.

I am saying you are a spammer, brazen and insulting. Stop spamming the casino name or I will start editing your posts and all your spam work will have been for naught.

 

[bonustreak]

Why do you think, that I - the owner of the Gainer Casino – have to leave without any words the untruth statements of your administrator.

I see nothing in this thread that is unethical other then as Dom said your completely obvious spam links. Why are you going to forums and spamming your casino? Also why are you quoting a EU law when your casino is registered in the US, which is quite ballsy if you ask me for you to come here and flat out state your the owner of a casino and live in the USA.

This casino is a white lable and your nothing more then a master affiliate and the owners are actually Playtech.

 

[dominique]

I better quit posting here and wait for admin to get back.

The entire thread and every post you made is spam and either all of your links and bold print needs to be deleted, or the thread needs to be archived, and you need to be banned.

Good night.

 

[Guard Dog]

Bundas ~

Let's get to the truth here....

The research I was to do on my isolation PC was to determine that you ARE a legitimate casino. My only thought was to make sure you were honest when you said it was a true casino and not a spam operation.

So - I was working FOR you, not AGAINST you. I know you wish to attack me at every turn, but I have always been a fair person. If Gainer Casino is a credible casino, I would post that information.

You are acting like you are new to this industry and I don't quite comprehend that. If you have been around for awhile, you would know that most operations which start off by placing links in forums have been spammers trying to pass of a fake casino as a real one.

I will give you examples:

BetCity
HiRoller
SlotzCity

These casinos were not real, but had real websites and forwarded traffic to casinos like: Amber Coast, 21 Magic, and Vegas Red.


What I was attempting to do was track down YOUR casino to be sure it was a legitimate casino. There is nothing wrong with due diligence And, for that matter, everything I have said in my posts (#2 or #7 or #whatever) is perfectly legal.

BTW - I will NOT ban you. You can say whatever you wish. I will, however, remove all bold print and links the next time you lace your post with them.



Let's get past all the bullshit here and find the truth... that's all I care about. If I have to pay a team of internet detectives to find out that information (because I don't have time), then I will do that.


Is this acceptable to you?

 

[dominique]

Wow! One post from you without spam! Simply delightful.

 

[Guard Dog]

Is this the liberty of saying the opinion of the forum members in the USA?

You, the gambling director and the administrtors can say anything, but the simple forum members are edited out if their opinion is conflicting with the preceding's standpoints?

May be that the place of this forum is in Cuba? May be I got lost?

Please, help me forum members, I would like to go back to the USA, to the country of liberty!

That's enough Bundas... act professional, please.


Nobody has edited any of your posts but YOU. We have NEVER altered a single post here at AGD. Anyone can say whatever they wish.

Spam is not allowed, though, as it is not allowed on most reputable forums.

 

[sam]

Dear Members,

Before making a conversation here, let me introduce myself. I am Sam from India, responsible for SEO process of Gainer Casino.

Dear community members, first of all let me ask apology from my side. It is an usual SEO process to be a part of good community forums and contribute to them in a positive manner. In turn take back a backlink from the signature.

But what has happened is one of our inexperienced member, mariajames has posted contents that could spoil the integrity of this forum. Please apologize him, he is just learning and this is a mistake because he is a fresher and learning. This would be a good learning curve to him.

Other than this mistake (Posting in this forum in a ineffective way) Gainer casino has nothing to do with spamming. As Admin said Gainer Casino is a real website and the website is growing.

We have never sent any spam mails to any one in the world. The only mistake we did is posting in an effective manner in the forum in view to get a backlink.(I have already asked for an apology)

Guys, I would like to put a fullstop to this issue. Gainer casino is a growing and real casino website. The owner is an ethical and responsible person.

Admin, just one thing is bothering me. Since you have declared that Gainer Casino is a real website, would you mind removing this thread. I would be very much thankful to you. As I said we are a growing Casino website, this thread could be a dark mark in our growth.

Any real casino owner will feel bad when his website is called as spam. Admin, I hope you know the kind of pain it brings to a person when his website is called a spam when it is not.

Requesting you to remove this thread. I would be contributing to this forum in an effective manner

Regards
Sam

 

[Guard Dog]

Welcome Sam. First - Thank you for the apology, it is appreciated.

We do not remove posts here. Sorry that it has hurt your SEO. Obviously the words 'gainer casino' in Google are now hit heavy with this post.

I have told Bundas that I will do research, he agreed to this, and this is what I will do. I have plenty of contacts in the industry and will make sure that this gets resolved. Removing/deleting posts is not the way to do that.

Sorry about this, but this thread would likely have been forgotten quickly had it not been escalated.

I can certainly delete the links by Bundas if that is HIS wish, but I will not modify any portion of his posts without his consent. If that is what you wish (and if he is an employee of yours), then you can certainly ask him to remove all content from his own posts.

The matter is still open with ME/AGD and we will find out the information mentioned in an earlier portion of the thread.

Thank you.

 

[sam]

Admin,

You may do research about the website and come up with your view. I regret to hear from you that you would not be removing the post. Its ok. I should be accepting it for now.

But once you find valid information about our website, I hope you would be doing it to safeguard an honest affiliate, who is also a member of your website.

I hope you understood our concern and would be thankul if you would delete the thread(not just the posts) in near future.

Thanks Admin.

Sam

 

[bonustreak]

Where I come from this type of SEO is called blackhat and I believe fully your new employee was doing his job... any hoot glad it has all been settled.

 

[Vladi]

This thread should be framed in gold and titled "how to destroy your credibility before you even start".

Ironic that all of bundas' Gainer Casino spamming in this thread has just pushed it to the top in google and people who read it will get the truth about its "owner". Good job!

btw your "About Us" page still names you as "Blue Duck Casino" (even more bizarre) and also says "This web site is a portal of Windows Casino". The T&Cs all refer to windowscasino.com and your Privacy Policy again mentions windows casino. Seems you don't even know who you are.

 

[wagerjunction]

Hello guys,
Stelios here, the affiliate manager of Wagerjunction.com

What we have here is an affiliate, probably a new one to the business judging by his emails to me and the threads here.

Gainer is not a white label casino or a new casino. It's just an affiliate registered in our affiliate program who is using a casino look-alike template.

If his visitors download the software, they will download / play / belong to Windows Casino (one of our program partners).

As I said the affiliate looks like new to the business and we have tried to guide him in every possible way. He seems confused to me and he thinks Gainer is an actual casino.

I also wasn't aware of his SEO practises, we will issue a warning to him and take it from there.

I apologise for not replying to this thread earlier, this just came into my attention.

Regards
Stelios

 

[Engineer]

Thanks for the info, Stelios.

It looks like Guard Dog's original statement (post #2 in this thread) was spot on.