Experiences with Dunder?

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    Biti

    Biti Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Anyone here working with them?

    I am working with them a few months now. Conversion is awesome, also deposits seem to go up every month.

    But the net revenue is every month somewhere between 10-20% of the deposited money. That's far lower than what I see at other programs.

    I am curious if others are having the same problem.
     
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    preditor

    preditor Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    I think most of the MT Secure Limited - casinos has a really high conversion but i have stoped working on rev share based deals with any of their brand since i really never earn anything. Dunder is amazing - but i deal with the same issue that you do.

    I think they have very high costs and other fees. Perhaps we cud do a review of the actual earnings here?
     
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    They work on the IGC plattform, same as thrills, superlenny etc. they have 24% fee on net rev in your commission. Not sure if Dunder has the same


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    Biti

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    Yes, must say I have the same issue with some other casinos from this platform. Most of them do convert, but either revenue is a low % of the deposits or retention is almost not existing.

    Some of the affiliate managers aren't even able to answer a question about how the NGR exactly is calculated.

    At one brand for example: there's € 140 deposits, no new depositors, but € 50 bonus costs. That's 35-36 procent. Another month with some new players, it's around 70%. Aff. manager isn't responsive anymore. This was not Dunder, but another one. A brand that I dropped of course after they failed to respond.
     
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    Frank Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    When it comes to UK/EU programs I run it as a carousal now, when i see players depositing large sums.. losing,, but comms shrinking i have set my site up in a way that I can eliminate them off 2000 pages and add another in two clicks. this method seems to be the most profitable for me.
     
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    Biti

    Biti Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Yes. I have a few trustable partners with a good product. They pay on time, got nice deals with them and I see the effects of a growing player base.

    But that's 1%, perhaps. All the rest I see it doesn't convert or it converts but doesn't bring structural and decent revenue. Good conversion is even killing the revenue of good players if retention is not ok, as costs are that high, that you're losing on a FTD that deposits just once or twice.

    Making deals with a RS component, but also CPA or fixed seems to be the way for many brands. For example for every white label.
     
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    Eddie G

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    Dunder is IMO great with retention and players keep redepositing. Have not looked into this with too much detail, as I do very little volumes with them. The players that do deposit seem to stick around much longer than at other sites though.
     
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    Dunder has 25% admin fee on net rev. Average i'd say.
     

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