Crap Commission Percentages

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    AussieDave

    AussieDave 20 years & still going!

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    The audit reports conduct by AGD are a welcome gift. They provide us all with the true, and factual commission percentages, which, most programs these days, are not disclosing.

    While affiliates have mostly always worn some kind of GGR deduction(s), these calculations have been fairly proportioned, and commissions earned, have been ethically fair.

    Sadly, there's a growing trend these days, where, programs are marketing (advertising) over inflated commission %'s, to the point where, I've seen some programs offer 60%.

    Let me say right now: paying an affiliate a bona fide 60% commission, is impossible!

    In addition to this unethical non-disclosure of true commission %'s paid, some programs have upped the ante, and are adding in absurd Admin fees, on top of their additional GGR deductions. BUT worse, these programs are now choosing not disclosing any GGR deductions to their affiliate partners. Not to mention adding a clause to the T&C's, allowing said program to change (retroactively?) the commission structure you have agreed to.


    All in all, it's a recipe where, the programs deduct what they like (because no fees and or charges are disclosed), and the poor affiliate is being scammed, and paid peanuts.

    I see this type of unethical conduct coming mainly from, white labels who, have flooded the market lately.

    Here at AGD, we're seeing that proof, in commission audits.

    The last three (3) audits are paying woefully low commission %'s, even though their corresponding affiliate programs are marketing/advertising high commission percentages.

    Previous to these was Campeon Partners. Again, more woeful results. Even though, this casino affiliate program would like affiliates to believe, it operates with ethical integrity.

    NB - Bold text not added by my hand, no. Bold text added on site by Campeon Partners, who, obviously are using this bold text in an attempt to make a statement about their operational integrity.

    Here are the true commission %'s paid by Campeon Partners, who claim they are trustworthy :rolleyes:


      • 25% = 18.75%
      • 30% = 22.50%
      • 35% = 26.25%
      • 40% = 30.00%
      • 45% = 33.75%
    I'm not bragging, but I've been a casino affiliate for 20+ years. I've seen a whole lot of everything from, a whole lot of people. That amounts to... The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.

    What I'm seeing with a large percentage of these new breed white labels, are affiliate programs with one (1) intention... to rob affiliate partners blind.

    I've said it before, and I'll say it again... I work with affiliate programs who pay me the bona fide commission percentage of which they've promised. 30% I receive 30% paid.

    EG - a player loses $1,000, I get paid $300 = 30% commission.

    Some of the programs I partner, their casinos hold Netherlands Antilles Curaçao gaming licensing. Yet, they can somehow manage to pay me, my true commission percentage.

    Yet, a lot of these new-breed affiliate programs flooding the industry of late, all seem to use the same excuse, when challenged about their heavily reduced commission %'s. That is, because of our licensing etc., etc., etc. Well I call Bullshit on that one!

    If that true, ALL programs with casino(s) Netherlands Antilles Curaçao license (licensee), would be deducting these absurd GGR deductions, along with these scammy Admin Fees. See, the BS runs freely with this mob.

    Seems these new breed of programs will say pretty much anything, to con affiliates into believing these ridiculous GGR fees, and Admin Fee(s) are genuine.

    If your an affiliate (newbie or seasoned) and you want to avoid being treated like a MUG, and subsequently shafted, then avoid working with any program who has to lie about the true commission percentage you will receive.

    In closing, if a program, aff manager, or for that matter anyone else, has no qualms about telling porkie pies, then they can't be trusted. It's that simple ;)
     
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    BetReels

    BetReels Affiliate Program Representative

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    Good post...

    We are looking to launch our new program with 20% flat commission. No Deductions, No Negative Carry-over and no quotas. Is that something that would appeal to affiliate partners?
     
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    preditor

    preditor Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Exactly lik that - I have also been an affiliate for aroundsh 17 years now, and back in the old good days a 1k deposit and lost was 300-350 in revenue with a basic 30-35% deal.

    Nowdays many deals need to be 45% minimum to even get close to same numbers.
     
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    AussieDave

    AussieDave 20 years & still going!

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    I'd take 25% flat but not 20%. 25% would still leave the program/casino et al 75%.
     
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    bonustreak

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    20% is below standard we would list you with low revshare on AGD
     
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    AussieDave

    AussieDave 20 years & still going!

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    @bonustreak - every time I see your avatar, it gives me a chuckle. Don't ask me why, I don't know... but it does :)
     
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    BetReels

    BetReels Affiliate Program Representative

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    We're looking at 25% for all affiliates who register before 31 December. Will update as soon as confirmed / approved.
     
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