CasinoLuck affiliate program, enough is enough

[Mikew]

I am wondering if anyone is having the same issue with this brand.
Been working with them for about 2 years and almost every months stats show as minus.
At best, I make about 150€ and only reached 4 digits once last year, about 3000€ from a single player who deposited big and fast but he went silent ever since.

I decided to reduce their exposure since I don't make any bucks with them but wanted to give them another chance this month right after the launch of their new brand wildslots. But guess what? Same scenario.

47 new registrations, 26 new depositors, all UK traffic. revshare is 35%: commission: -43.
Account reports doesn't even show any commission of +20 from a single player. All I see is -0,91, -0,21 -0,43 and more of these.
Don't even get me started on casinoluck or nextcasino because I am also on minus there as well.
What are the odds of being in minus on three different brands from the same program or just to be in minus every month??

I think I would have better chances to make money if I deposit in one of their brands and gamble a bit. Their slots RTP might just be 300%.
Will completely take them down from my sites in the next coming days, and never bother again. Enough is enough

 

[DaftDog]

I agree, more and more of these establishments appear to be more of a charity service than a casino. A player will win big and never return again and new winning players sign up every month. How the hell do these places make money? I don't begrudge a player winning but some of these places must struggle to pay their employees let alone their affiliates.

 

[FreePoker]

I don't think I'd believe those stats, if the depositors are actually playing. Have you asked the casino to confirm?

 

[LandofOz]

I've only just recently listed them. This doesn't sound very encouraging.

 

[onlinecasinoscloud1]

I already removed them, I had enough of them ! for several months in a row one of my user (every month same user) win and took everything that I earn, continuously from month to month I had zero or negative balance.

 

[CaseyM]

I don't have this issue with them. I haven't sent them many players but the ones I have sent, they have managed to retain and they mostly lose.

 

[AussieDave]

Granted Players win. However, if they're winning month-in, month-out, every month, then something is definitely not Kosher with your stats.

As far as Whales goes; least from my exeperience, if they like a casino, then they'll keep depositing, and if they win, they'll deposit that ALL back within a month or two (depending on the win value).

Low depositing players are similar. They win, they'll keep depositing. And, more often than not, lose it back to the casino.

The only players who seem to win-n-run, are advantage (bonus) players. But I'm happy to see them go - hopefully lost in the process

I don't and never have promoted Casino Luck. However from your account of things, I'd be kicking these casinos to the curb!

How the hell do these places make money? I don't begrudge a player winning but some of these places must struggle to pay their employees let alone their affiliates.

It's no secret I'm a HR. I've had some brillant sessions. But... I don't win every month. Have gone a full 6 months without a damn withdrawal. So I'm just as mystified when I see confirmed slot-players, in my stats (at BP), playing every day and winning, somtimes 3 months straight.

This month alone at BP ($14K in deposits), less $250 has all been wiped out by these players who seem to always win... So beats the sh#t out of me how these casinos survive, if these are legit players and not ghosts.

 

[Kadabra]

This month alone at BP ($14K in deposits), less $250 has all been wiped out by these players who seem to always win... So beats the sh#t out of me how these casinos survive, if these are legit players and not ghosts.

In BP there are a lot of winners as well.

 

[KasinoKing]

FYI I just looked back at my last 3 year's stats with Luck (2013-2015) - and it was exactly 50/50!
i.e. 18 negative months and 18 positive.
However, this year has been better - only 2 negative months.
All VERY small figures mind you (best month = +€36) - but nothing untoward.

Historically done a lot better with their sister "Next Casino", though this year my players have won more than they lost there...

KK

 

[Mikew]

I don't have this issue with them. I haven't sent them many players but the ones I have sent, they have managed to retain and they mostly lose.

Retain small or average players, yes this is something they can do, because I can still in my stats players who registered from beginning of 2015 even of this year can keep on deposits every month or every 2 months.
However the result are just the same for me, being in minus most of the time.

As for me right now, this partnership is not worth it. Would rather focus on brands with much clearer commission structure and where I can make some bucks with cause that's some of the reason why I am in this business.

 

[Frank]

I have found they convert well, sign up to deposit, deposit value is pretty high but earnings are peanuts, around 6-8% real earnings of losses "based on 40% comms" so i just now send my players elsewhere

 

[jopaa]

Casino Luck from the beginning of 2016 till now: 713 clicks - 25 new accounts - 3 nd - €489 commissions

And other NetEnt casinos that I list are even worse than Casino Luck.

 

[AussieDave]

other NetEnt casinos that I list are even worse than Casino Luck.

The only NetEnt casino I do ok with is GDay, run by FullCreamAffiliates. The rest, no matter what I do, no matter who I promote, the results are always the same. A BIG fat $0 or Admin fees pillage so much, that I'm left with about 8% commission.

Hence, I only promote GDay these days.

Edit: Just some food for thought...
I started back playing at Video Slots. So after climbing 15 levels in 1 session, and the fact I was somewhere in the hole for about $30K in 5 months. Thought I'd contact Alexander the owner and ask if he could give me a bespoke VIP deal. My point to ALL this is though... He claimed because they have multiple game suppliers etc., I should be happy with that.

Anyway, our commission/player value at these NetEnt casinos, seems to be governed a lot by Admin fees. which I'm guess is mostly royalty fees paid to game providers. That would seem the most plausable reason my commissions of 25%, are really only around a true 8%.

Microgaming casinos; least a single casino pays around 20 - 23% in royalty fees. Hence why you'll find a lot of MGS casinos having sister sites. Groups in that class pay around 15%. I'm not sure what these NetEnt style casino pay with multiple game platforms, but I'm sure it's well above those aformentioned fees, in total.

As always, it's the affiliates getting hammered for it!

 

[Rick Perry]

hmm, don't know what to think about it. Their affiliate manager contacts me every month trying to sign up a contract. These numbers are ridiculous, I don't know what to think about it :-(

I'll probably try it and let you know..

 

[Biti]

They work with Income Access, that's almost a synonym for deducting insane fees.