BetFashionTV - Rogue Casino

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    casinonewbie

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    I am getting that feeling that many Aspire Global white labels could be a little smelly :)
     
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    Biti

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    @Webzcas I don't know what happened in your case. I agree I sounded a bit without nuance. Of course situations do exist where people get a penalty, but I also think that Google can judge some situations correctly. Otherwise it would be very, very easy to to let websites drop down.

    @casinonewbie Why should a serious entrepreneur start with a white label and start with the same casino as 50 others are having already? I think in 95% of the cases it's lack of money or wanting to hide their identity.
     
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    Geri1

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    On behalf of Fashion TV Gaming Group

    We would like to make it clear that we never initiated or activated any negative SEO against anyone!

    We never been, or are involved in such wrong, unprofessional acts to resolve issues.

    To attack the most powerful, reputable gaming trusted sits/institutions that protects players and affiliates is very wrong and unheard.

    It is very sad for us that our brand was connected to such but that’s surely not the case.

    Gentlemen, this is not our way nor it is our business culture!



    Fashion TV Gaming Group
     
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    ThePOGG

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    I'm passing no further comment on the above - I would encourage the members here to reach their own conclusions regarding what has gone on here based on all of the information that has been made available via various sources.

    An identical post has been submitted to our service, but as this post was made to a complaint thread unrelated to the issue of the Blackhat link attack it has not been approved. It's also worth noting that the comment was made to a complaint thread that remains unresolved wherein a FashionTV Gaming Group run operator refused to pay a player despite their regulator ruling at the time that they had to.....

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    ThePOGG

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    I'd fully agree with and support the above post. In actual fact, this attack resulted in a fairly significant increase in traffic for us. We have a very clean link profile. Actually as some posters have commented it could be a little too clear. That's nothing to do with anything more than having attracted some very strong and credible links over the years and having cleaned up when we have been attacked in this fashion.

    Despite the increase in traffic we still disavowed all involved links and allowed our traffic to return to normal. These links may have helped us now, but they are unquestionably 'bad' links. If we'd left them in place, the next time some hostile entity decided to point a load of bad links at us it might be enough to swing our profile into dangerous waters. By disavowing these links we keep our link profile clean enough to be able to withstand some level of attack and give us time to react.

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    Biti

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    Who did it then? The Leprechauns?

    What a jokers at BetFashion.
     
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    AussieDave

    AussieDave 18 years & still going!

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    That statement is a moot point because...no one would ever admit to initiating a neg SEO attack.

    However, given the publicity this matter has generated from respected sites within the industry (people who don't make up stuff), not withstanding the toxic-links now pull 404 errors (these seemed to have been yanked less than 24 hours previous to your post here), it would seem a fair assumption indeed, that BetFashion and or FashionTV Group et al, played a part in these toxic links and negative SEO. To deny otherwise is to refute hard cold facts at hand.

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    Is this mess salvageable?
    First thing would be to honor ALL player winning payments (in full). Going to forward, continue to pay legit winners. Build up a decent reputation. Maybe BetFashionTV maybe able to dig themselves out of this self imposed hole they'd dug themselves into.
     
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    casinonewbie

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    Possibly Israeli Leprechauns ;)
     
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    casinonewbie

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    The first two sentences at CM on this sort of nail the whole deal about these rogues.......

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    Betfashiontv.com is a brand owned by Fashion TV Gaming Group, a company incorporated under the laws of Curacao – woo woo"

    "The games on their website are powered and operated by Aspire Global International LTD., a Malta based company that really doesn’t do much but enable these sort of rogue operations to exist"

    https://www.casinomeister.com/casino-reviews/betfashiontv/
     
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    Biti

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    I am curious what Aspire Global will do. Resolve issues isn't possible anymore, because they did what they did and they can't turn it back anymore.

    I guess they will do nothing in the end.
     
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    casinonewbie

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    I guess your right, Aspire seem appear to be one big facade helping rogue casinos ripoff players & affiliates. Oh but they seem to have great pool parties if that helps to pay your bills https://www.facebook.com/aspireglobalmalta/
     
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    ThePOGG

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    I think we're going a little OTT hard on Aspire Global at this stage. They have to be allowed the opportunity to take action before conclusions should be drawn.

    Aspire will unquestionably have contracts in place. Those contracts are likely to define exactly what actions can be taken in this type of situation and what order those actions have to be taken in. You might be sick of that employee that always comes in late, but if you just sack them without following procedure and issuing verbal and written warnings chances are you're going to end yourself up with a costly lawsuit.

    As to what could be done by the operator - the members here are unquestionable right, nothing can change the BlackHat issue However there are still player complaints against the FashionTV Gaming Group that are unresolved totalling tens (possibly hundreds) of thousands in unpaid player funds. I would suggest that if this group wanted to address issues that could have been resolved that would have been the place to start. There will be no point where we would ever work with this operator after everything that's happened recently, but it would have been a big positive to get the players sorted out. I have heard from a source I trust that the owner claims to be looking into getting access to the previous player database to address this, but we've got three complaints of this nature and no-ones asked us to try contacting the players despite a couple of offers.

    Returning to Aspire, what I can say is that I was on the phone with a member of their senior management team early this morning. I do not know what action they intend to take, but I am happy to see a platform provider take an active role in a situation like this one. I can also say that over the last 18 months I've personally worked with their team on a number of player complaints. They are cooperative and willing to listen and have paid out large balances at my request. As we're no longer a UKGC appointed ADR we have no authority to insist on such payments. I'd actually suggest that Aspire represent one of the more reputation focused platform providers at the present time.

    I'd suggest that everyone allows them the time and room to move through their processes before we all jump to the conclusion that nothing meaningful will happen.....

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    ThePOGG

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    My current understanding is that Bet FashionTV as an operation has been suspended from receiving any further registration until such time as player complaints related to the FashionTV Gaming Group's previous operation have been addressed and resolved. I would say that's very strong action for a platform provider to take.

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    Webzcas

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    Excellent news. Please keep us posted.
     

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