benefit from gamblin addiction

[DoggyStyle]

I'm just reading threads of gambling addicts at casinomeister. sad.
this makes me wonder: have someone of you a player who's seriously addicted to online gambling?
I mean, if you realize someone loses hugh amounts of money every month (or every week or even every day!), what would you do? contact your affiliate program and ask them about him? maybe try to get him banned/his account permanently closed?
Or would you think "he can afford to lose that kind of money, probably he wins at other online casinos...."

I am curious: what would you do? honestly, I don't know how I would act.

 

[slotplayer]

I'm just reading threads of gambling addicts at casinomeister. sad.
this makes me wonder: have someone of you a player who's seriously addicted to online gambling?
I mean, if you realize someone loses hugh amounts of money every month (or every week or even every day!), what would you do? contact your affiliate program and ask them about him? maybe try to get him banned/his account permanently closed?
Or would you think "he can afford to lose that kind of money, probably he wins at other online casinos...."

I am curious: what would you do? honestly, I don't know how I would act.

Absolutely, I have big player at a Rival and asked the AM look in to him, he was using one card and had a high paying job so it looked ok. He's calmed down on the big spending now as well.

 

[Aussie-Dave]

Hi DoggyStyle,
I'm so much not going to ask where you got the idea for that nic.

What's one persons gold mine is another's loose change.

You'll also find the ratio of Whales ($30K + a month) & Large depositors ($10K + a month) quiet small in relationship to lower betting players found at CM these days.

When I used to post winning screen caps at CM, my bets on BIG wins (bonus slots) would regularly be anything from $22.50.
On a couple of screen caps I hit it big on $125 bets.

I've had CM members tell me I'm insane or tell me only Millionaires can gamble like that.
Then again they probably earn in a year what I was gambling in one month.

Which again reinforces the fact it's all relative to your income.

Have I enquired about any of my players that are betting large or more so taking large loses each month, yes.
I believe as a responsible affiliate it's your duty to at least ask.


Cheers



Dave

 

[jimmiet]

Hello?

I'm just reading threads of gambling addicts at casinomeister. sad.
this makes me wonder: have someone of you a player who's seriously addicted to online gambling?
I mean, if you realize someone loses hugh amounts of money every month (or every week or even every day!), what would you do? contact your affiliate program and ask them about him? maybe try to get him banned/his account permanently closed?
Or would you think "he can afford to lose that kind of money, probably he wins at other online casinos...."

I am curious: what would you do? honestly, I don't know how I would act.

I am sorry to report, there are three additions in the world; Sex, Drugs/Alcohol & Gambling. If you having second thoughts about this business you need to quit and join the Salvation Army. (just kidding!)

The reason we are here is because people love to gamble. It is recorded as early as the Egyptians. I cannot control or monitor every customer and their habits. Yes it is sad but the world is run by greed and corruption. That is why we had the last worldwide economic collapse. Make hay when the sun is shining or stay in the barn.

 

[Bonus Paradise]

Gambling addiction is a sickness, and we affiliates are not the ones who can help to cure such persons, what we can do is post stuff about it, announce where they can get help and so on.

If a person is gambling addicted, and you as affiliate would have the chance to get in touch with that player personally, maybe you could advice a few things.
If you as affiliate go and try to get that player locked from the casino (which I think is impossible) that player will just go and play at another casino.

Gambling addiction is something that more persons have that you can imagine.
Does not depend on how much money the play away, there are also players who play only 300$ a month and this is already to much for them.

I do know some persons with gambling addiction, and they do not know it themselves! Or at least they do not admit it to themselves, and this is where the problem is.

As a human and affilate I want to say, that I feel many times sorry for many players, members on my forum. Having a heavy heart seeing them loose, knowing they dont know now how to pay the bills, sometimes I did help out with money and that money went right away again to a casino.

So, what shoud we do as affiliates is really hard to tell

Interesting discussion... looking forward what others have to say

Cheers
Marina

 

[lots0]

What a loaded question...

Why not ask a Bartender if he/she benefits from alcoholics?

I guess what I am saying is... If you are bothered enough to ask questions like that maybe you should find another business to be in.

Responsible people, in any business, act responsibly toward anyone that has an illness... No matter what the illness.

 

[dominique]

I am sorry to report, there are three additions in the world; Sex, Drugs/Alcohol & Gambling.

Actually there are countless addictions, they come in all shapes.
Sex/drugs/ alcohol are three, the three most common. Gambling isn't near as common.

But people are addicted to all kinds of stuff, sugar, carbohydrates, chocolate, caffeine, tobacco, danger (as in extreme sports etc, adrenalin stuff), jogging and other endurance sports (creates endorphines in the brain), a lot of compulsive disorders could be categorized as addictions as well. There is no end to addictions, if it exists, someone is addicted to it.

 

[Vladi]

I don't believe in curtailing the freedoms of adults to do what they want for entertainment in their spare time just because a small minority of people are self-destructive or lack self discipline. If we take that line, then lets start by banning all alcohol because a few people are alcoholics, or cars because there are bad drivers that kill people. As long as people are generally not harming anyone else then how about giving people a bit of personal responsibility instead of nannying them? The interesting thing is I don't think this way about everything - eg I can't understand the USA's "right to bear arms" thing with guns.

So what do I do specifically:

- Don't lie to players and/or treat them like idiots. Don't try to tell them they can't lose, or try to sell them some BS roulette system, or try to trick them with ads that look like instant messenger messages, or buy spam lists etc.
- Provide easy to find information about how to seek help if they might have a gambling problem.
- Tell them the real odds of the games they are playing.
- Offer help if asked.
- Refer players to responsible operators who have clear exclusion policies that they actually enforce.
- Try to help to make the industry a better place by warning players and other affiliates of rogue casinos and scammers.
- Don't advertise in inappropriate places.

Make no assumptions. As Dave said, a player losing $10k a month could be a multi-millionaire or they could be stealing from their boss. In the vast majority of cases they will sit somewhere in between these two extremes, and you will have no way of knowing exactly where.

However if you know that you have done all that you can to provide the information that they need and referred them to a responsible operator then you will be able to sleep at night. Because in the end, adults are responsible for making their own decisions.

 

[Eugene]

Yep, sometimes gambling is addiction.
Yep, sometimes alcohol is addiction.

How can you help alcoholic as shopman?

 

[dominique]

You can help by adding a page to your site that addresses addiction and tells people where to go for help.

 

[lunaraurora]

I am sorry to report, there are three additions in the world; Sex, Drugs/Alcohol & Gambling.

You missed one important addiction ..INTERNET

 

[Vladi]

Yep, sometimes gambling is addiction.
Yep, sometimes alcohol is addiction.

How can you help alcoholic as shopman?

You are not the shopman or the barman. A better analogy would be you are someone who reviews bars and tells people where the good ones are.