Old site, new site

[byebyebaby]

Hi,

So I am deleting one of my, non converting sites www.heaven4casinos.com because it just isn't doing anything anymore and can't seem to turn it around.

I am creating a new website, but I would like to use some pages from my old one on the new one?

Can I? Does google see it as duplicate content, even if I remove the original page?

 

[edgarf76]

I would not risk it, write up a fresh copy . My two cents

 

[LandofOz]

I've deleted content from site #1 and added it to site #2 a few times in the past. I've never noticed any harmful effects whatsoever.

 

[PaaskeUK]

i would leave your old site as it will still generate traffic for you once and a while instead of just deleting it? And then create unique content from scratch on the new site.

Oh and just a comment about your other site Heaven4Netent the floating leafes. I would get rid of them as damn anoying hehe. Just a good advice. Its nice having something around Christmas like snow. But I would leave it out. Great sites you have though just my opinion.

 

[RyanWeb]

The way I see it you have two options.. You can keep heaven4casinos.com and add a few links from it pointing to your new site, as you do have some built up authority with that site.

Option 2 is you can move (as many pages as you wish to keep) to your new site, and add a 301 redirect from heaven4casinos.com (all pages except the ones you keep) to your new site index..

Then 301 redirect (the pages you are keeping, and moving over) heaven4casinos.com/examplepage1 to newsite.com/examplepage1 and so on.. That's what I would do (and have done, sometimes with good results).

 

[RyanWeb]

Also FYI Opensiteexplorer says you only have 8 domains linking to your site (almost all forums..).. All with random and pretty generic anchor text... That may play a pretty big role in why your not ranking for much...

 

[AussieDave]

Over the 15 years in this game, I've had a couple of sites which no matter what I did, G just doesn't seem to like them. One such site I wasted over 2 years, it had 100's of quality links point back, hell, it even had a couple of "follow" .gov.au & edu.au links. Nothing made any BIG difference.

If this ever happens to anyone else, all I can say is, start on a fresh site.

As far as recycling content, it's not worth the risk. Unless your aiming for the new-site to be like the old one

Edit:
Took a quick snoop of your code... Ummm there's no H1 tag. I'd also re-word the title and description. And I'd also drop the keyword meta in your seo plugin. I reckon a few changes on this site, with regard to Headings and keyword/phrase densities could see a marked improvement...

It's a nice clean site, seems a pity to throw in the towel just yet, while on page SEO can be vastly improved.

 

[jopaa]

From my previous experience, when a site is "gone" than there is nothing you can do. If big G decide to not rank your website, then you can add any amount of quality backlinks but the website won't rank any higher. As for the content, if the website was not penalized by Google, you can use it for your new website. Just redirect the old page to the new one.

 

[AussieDave]

As for the content, if the website was not penalized by Google, you can use it for your new website. Just redirect the old page to the new one.

But why would you, why risk it?
I mean surely G doesn't dislike just the domain name.

 

[slotplayer]

yes it needs to SEO'd better. title and description meta's are too short and in many instances say the same thing.
site:heaven4casinos.com

 

[jopaa]

But why would you, why risk it?

I don't think is such a big risk. I've done it in the past (moved whole content from one domain to another) and didn't get slapped by G.

 

[slotplayer]

not saying that it is, but if its not ranking due content issues redirecting the same content to a new domain simple moves the problem.

 

[Kadabra]

Took a quick snoop of your code... Ummm there's no H1 tag. I'd also re-word the title and description. And I'd also drop the keyword meta in your seo plugin. I reckon a few changes on this site, with regard to Headings and keyword/phrase densities could see a marked improvement...

Can I order the snooping service as well

 

[AussieDave]

I've done it in the past (moved whole content from one domain to another) and didn't get slapped by G.

I've changed sites to better suited domains before. This is the only time I use the same content. But I also do a complete redirection, not just 301's. I've never been slapped by G for doing this, in fact, if anything, the new site ranked better. However I didn't follow this practice because site-A wasn't ranking.

not saying that it is, but if its not ranking due content issues redirecting the same content to a new domain simple moves the problem.

That's my take on it too.

I still reckon the OP can avoid all this hassle by simply optimising his one-page seo etc.

 

[byebyebaby]

I think I will try to improve some META stuff on the old one and start the new one from scratch....

Do you think a Blog only site would work? No static pages (or hardly any).

 

[AussieDave]

Do you think a Blog only site would work? No static pages (or hardly any).

My advice is... don't try an re-invent the wheel

heaven4casinos is imo a well laid out site.
It's clean, easy to navigate and the colour selection is suited well for a slots site, with bright and inviting slots reviews etc.

As far as your new site... I'd 1'st invest say one month of solid work into heaven4casinos, then see if things turn around. I still believe if you can iron out the on page seo issues, then I think you'll see a marked improvement. This game is a huge learning curve.

 

[Guard Dog]

I with Bet4You on this one. Give it one more shot on that site. If nothing, then I would KEEP the website at least to allow for a link to your new site. That will get you indexed faster.

 

[AussieDave]

If nothing, then I would KEEP the website at least to allow for a link to your new site. That will get you indexed faster.

I'd also consider moving to a new hosting provider. I use Godaddy as a domain registrar only. I wouldn't recommend hosting there though.

Every time I'm visited your site, it hangs for a good 3 - 4 sec before it starts to render the site in the browser. Really, your site needs to at least be showing something other than a blank page within this time frame, otherwise, you risk punters hitting the back button.

I ran a test from London using Chrome (picked that country as it's a good 1/2 way point, between EU and USA) and the results are not great:
http://www.webpagetest.org/result/151113_P0_NK6/

3825 ms First Byte Time, is way too slow, like snail pace. This needs to be around 500ms or less.

Your images compression is off the chart and if compressed could say you 402K in load time.
http://www.webpagetest.org/result/151113_P0_NK6/1/performance_optimization/#compress_images

I'd also guess that you've got a bottle neck with your javascripting in the header. I'd also looking at stripping the version numbers of these scripts, that saves load times too

Albeit some of this is needed to load 1'st up but other bits of it, could be deferred to loading after, by moving it to just above the closing </html> tag. But you need to include the defer instruction within the javascript code tag, otherwise just moving doesn't always optimise the end result.

I'd also look at installing a cache. I used https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-fastest-cache/ and highly recommend it.

While I have the paid version, the free does exactly what you need, speed up your site load times. Unlike some of the other WP cache plugins, WPFC is child's play to setup. And in the free version it offers basic CSS, JS and Html minify options.

Last but not least. Plugins... I run 10 max. And if I could use less I would. Not sure how many you have but a lean site, is a fast site

There's a few basic things I'd suggest looking at before ditching Heaven4Casinos.com

 

[slotplayer]

I saw yesterday that some of the of the pages were noindex, follow. Why is that? Is that some WP thing?

 

[AussieDave]

Is that some WP thing?

No, not generally. Could be the SEO plugin is not configured correctly. Took another quick peek at the code...

<!-- SEO Ultimate (http://www.seodesignsolutions.com/wordpress-seo/) -->
   <meta name="description" content="The latest news from online casinos, new online slot games and casino bonuses" />
   <meta name="keywords" content="online slots,slot games,video slots,casinos,reviews,casino software,bonuses" />

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<meta name="description" content="The latest news from online casinos, new online slot games and casino bonuses" />
<meta name="keywords" content=",halloween,leovegas,stacked wilds,play'n go,expanding wilds,random wilds,realtime gaming,collapsing reels,stacked symbols,stargames,novomatic,go wild casino,microgaming,243 ways,betsafe,re-spin feature,nextgen gaming,netent,netbet,progressive jackpot,sticky wilds,playtech,uptown aces,mega symbols,wild reels,extra wild,vera &amp; john,yggdrasil gaming,unibet,platin casino,merkur" />
<link rel="canonical" href="http://www.heaven4casinos.com/" />

Without sounding like an ass, I'm not surprised the site is not ranking well.

Personal I'd piss-off SEO Ultimate and go for something like AIOSEO (All in one seo). It's very simple to setup. Just make sure if you go this path, that AIOSEO has an import function to transfer what you have in Ultimate (page/post titles and description data etc) and populate it to AIOSEO

FYI meta keywords are no longer used. So give them the boot. Also, you have 2 instance of "meta description tags". And like slotsplayer said... you've got too much of the same meta data repeated. If you need to add twitter, facebook and social media for your property="og: ", then write up unique descriptions for each one. Otherwise G may see these as keyword stuffing.

Edit:
One last thing... Your navigation... Didn't notice it yesterday but the base links, granted images can look nicer but these really should be text links, not images

lol that should keep you going for a few weeks