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I hope its them so we can get our last payment that was promised and said it was sent by John Olsen......now he's stopped replying to emails.
 

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This casino could very well belong to the Casino Coins group. I remember getting an email from Nick Yap about liberty slots a long time ago (before the website even opened). He asked me if I would be interested in promoting this new casino which will be opening soon, and I didn't reply back. Thank god I didn't reply back, and thank god i'm not a complete fool too. Looks like I would have been conned into promoting a dodgy online casino.

Here is the email:

"I just wanted to give you the heads up that I'm starting with a new US program coming up this week.


It's a former operator who ended up getting a license from people who split from VT. The software will basically be the same as VT, but under a different name, similar to when OddsOn got sold to VT. Let's set up a chat this week and I can fill you in on the details.


The brand name will be LibertySlots.com


Cheers,

Nick"
 

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This casino could very well belong to the Casino Coins group. I remember getting an email from Nick Yap about liberty slots a long time ago (before the website even opened). He asked me if I would be interested in promoting this new casino which will be opening soon, and I didn't reply back. Thank god I didn't reply back, and thank god i'm not a complete fool too. Looks like I would have been conned into promoting a dodgy online casino.

Here is the email:

"I just wanted to give you the heads up that I'm starting with a new US program coming up this week.


It's a former operator who ended up getting a license from people who split from VT. The software will basically be the same as VT, but under a different name, similar to when OddsOn got sold to VT. Let's set up a chat this week and I can fill you in on the details.


The brand name will be LibertySlots.com


Cheers,

Nick"

"Good Guys" like Nick always manage to bounce back fast, that's why I was not as worried as some others were about him being out of a job.

Where's JJJ Affiliate? :p

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Hmmmmm Any chance this is another scenario where a MG brand is once again stealing our US players to promote under the radar of MG of course... remember when many were opening RTG brands trying stay alive and cross marketing our players.... hmmm shocked Nick is involved in this damn mess!!
 

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I don't know what will happen but I do know that I will be supporting Nick with whatever his future is. Not many worked close with him but I did and over the yrs he has made coins more of an honestly ran program, in the past it is true there were issues but he works with transparency and really stood up for affiliates.

I can remember several times when Nick was at industry events just as himself, not a sponsor nor there to do business he never pushed his company on anyone even at conferences if you wanted to talk biz then cool he would let you approach him. I like his style of affiliate managing and hope I can work with him again in the near future.

I know some are pissed off but I don't think it is fair to judge anyone at this point other then the damn US Gov.

Just curious Streak, after the coal raking I took from a few of you guys back in May for the statements I made regarding Nick and Casino Coins, if you still feel this way now as you stated above then?

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To be blunt it really is none of your business how I feel about Nick I will handle this in my own way. I consider Nick a friend so I will talk to him personally and find out what is going on, if this is true he will still be my friend! I do not disown friends for bad decisions they make, it isn't like I am a perfect angel none of us are.
 

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To be blunt it really is none of your business how I feel about Nick I will handle this in my own way. I consider Nick a friend so I will talk to him personally and find out what is going on, if this is true he will still be my friend! I do not disown friends for bad decisions they make, it isn't like I am a perfect angel none of us are.

If I may be blunt as well...I beg to differ here!

You are a moderator here at AGD and more importantly than that, you are a member of the certification team.

AGD's tagline stamp is stated as "Protecting Affiliates Interests"

How can you possible do this when you are clearly letting your 'conference so-called friendships' cloud your better judgements here?

Now, is it really none of mine or anyone else's business?

I've got to say that I'm really disappointed in your response above, I would have thought you would have chosen a more professional response. You seem to be letting your personal friendships with some of these affiliate managers over-ride your duty to affiliate members here.

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Please Rob I can choose my friends as I please, I know how to keep things separate from business. BTW just talked to Nick he is not working with this company in fact he is not even in this business at the moment!! He considered working with the NEW owners of VT but they do not have an affiliate program as you can see so he does not have a job with them. He was not the owner, he has no control if player databases were sold, they gave him( new owners) an offer then decided to open without an aff program. Also he has a baby about to be born any day this is the least of his concern so to set the record straight Nick Yap does not work for these clowns. I actually hope he changes his mind and does contact them to convince these people they are going about this all wrong, he could make them see the light!! Nick is a stand up guy and I stand by him!

I am not getting in a pissing match with you Rob, I can sleep at night knowing I am doing something each day to help fellow affiliates in this industry, maybe tend to your own backyard before you start calling people out. Your always disappointed in me that is nothing new..
 
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Please Rob I can choose my friends as I please, I know how to keep things separate from business. BTW just talked to Nick he is not working with this company in fact he is not even in this business at the moment!! He considered working with the NEW owners of VT but they do not have an affiliate program as you can see so he does not have a job with them. He was not the owner, he has no control if player databases were sold, they gave him( new owners) an offer then decided to open without an aff program. Also he has a baby about to be born any day this is the least of his concern so to set the record straight Nick Yap does not work for these clowns. I actually hope he changes his mind and does contact them to convince these people they are going about this all wrong, he could make them see the light!! Nick is a stand up guy and I stand by him!

I am not getting in a pissing match with you Rob, I can sleep at night knowing I am doing something each day to help fellow affiliates in this industry, maybe tend to your own backyard before you start calling people out. Your always disappointed in me that is nothing new..

Not true, let me clarify further...as I previously stated, I'm disappointed in your response...not you personally, this is not personal and never was or intended to be. Don't know why you would choose to take it that way.

Believe what Nick says if you like, there are others amongst us that have proof otherwise tho.
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What proof?
 

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I would like to see that proof :)

Anyway - Bonustreak's friendship with Nick can be whatever it is and it doesn't affect the forum. We all know as part of the collective certification team that it takes all of us to certify a place. That was done on purpose to keep any biases from clouding judgement.

There is my official statement ;)
 

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You guys have already seen some of the proof posted in this very thread and still yet, you refuse to believe it. Why should any of the rest of us waste anymore time with this...seriously?

I wish I had actually stuck to my previous statement about bowing out and watching the monkeys play.


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What the heck are you talking about? This is completely different than saying Casino Coins has something to do with this new casino... Blaming it on Nick is what I (and I think Dom) are asking proof of.

So - do you have proof that he is involved?


You guys have already seen some of the proof posted in this very thread and still yet, you refuse to believe it. Why should any of the rest of us waste anymore time with this...seriously?

I wish I had actually stuck to my previous statement about bowing out and watching the monkeys play.
 

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What the heck are you talking about? This is completely different than saying Casino Coins has something to do with this new casino... Blaming it on Nick is what I (and I think Dom) are asking proof of.

So - do you have proof that he is involved?

I reckon you must have totally missed this post below, I noticed you never commented on it....Seriously Andy, you need to be bitten in the ass again or what?


This casino could very well belong to the Casino Coins group. I remember getting an email from Nick Yap about liberty slots a long time ago (before the website even opened). He asked me if I would be interested in promoting this new casino which will be opening soon, and I didn't reply back. Thank god I didn't reply back, and thank god i'm not a complete fool too. Looks like I would have been conned into promoting a dodgy online casino.

Here is the email:

"I just wanted to give you the heads up that I'm starting with a new US program coming up this week.


It's a former operator who ended up getting a license from people who split from VT. The software will basically be the same as VT, but under a different name, similar to when OddsOn got sold to VT. Let's set up a chat this week and I can fill you in on the details.


The brand name will be LibertySlots.com


Cheers,

Nick"

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I reckon you must have totally missed this post below, I noticed you never commented on it....Seriously Andy, you need to be bitten in the ass again or what?

Not sure what that means.

I did not see that and it sounds like that is a past event... it also sounds like, , reading Bonustreak's post, that Nick had considered working for the new group that owns VT - but decided against it.

So - seems like an impasse. He was maybe considering it.. and then gave up on the idea? Or just doesn't want anyone to know. How do we determine the truth, I wonder?
 

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Not sure what that means.

I did not see that and it sounds like that is a past event... it also sounds like, , reading Bonustreak's post, that Nick had considered working for the new group that owns VT - but decided against it.

So - seems like an impasse. He was maybe considering it.. and then gave up on the idea? Or just doesn't want anyone to know. How do we determine the truth, I wonder?

Do you really believe that there is a "New Group" that owns VT?

Or is it just another shell company that plays the re-branding game....

Believe what you will my friend. :)

/Derail/ No one makes mention about Intertops and all of their shell associations either...so there ya go. Well actually, CM did make mention of that one a couple weeks back. ;) /Derail/

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Sounds to me like he was considering working with them and they were considering having an affiliate program - and the whole thing fell through.

Last thing I heard is that he took a job with an affiliate program that was not in this industry.

But that's a guessing game and I am not a big friend of guessing - which is why I asked for proof. I'll try to contact him myself and find out.

Intertops - what's the scoop there?
 

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While I'm not trying to dig old wounds; I am curious IF indeed Nick was of the character described.... why didn't he tell us well ahead of time what was apparently known by others - that there was a new company, and VT was not "dying" or "going out of business" . . . especially if he was offered a job with them. I mean assuming he was peoples friend and not just an affiliate manager.

I also don't think its as cut-n-dry as it looks at first - like why just throw away all those good brands? -- BCP didn't...
 

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Im here man dont worry :)

Ill eat my hat if you like

"Good Guys" like Nick always manage to bounce back fast, that's why I was not as worried as some others were about him being out of a job.

Where's JJJ Affiliate? :p

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