Refilliates accounts inaccessible

[celena]

Versailles Casino is open.

 

[Redbush54]

Just received a robo call from Rockbet for a free $100 chip along with telling me that I have been sent an email with a bonus match with no playthrough. Unfortunately they don't have my correct email. Definitely are shutting the casinos down.

 

[vegasdog78]

reffiliates.com is for sale if someone is interested

 

[inspiration]

When I search for the previous owner Duwayne Cowney
he owns or owned these domains :
spinprive.com
mobireels.com

when you visit the link to the UKGC

it is listed under Nektan Limited

https://secure.gamblingcommission.g...egister/PRAccountDetails.aspx?accountNo=39107

all sorts of domains, white labels and several "seperate" affiliate programs..........go figure how big this crime is..........

 

[casinonewbie]

When I search for the previous owner Duwayne Cowney
he owns or owned these domains :
spinprive.com
mobireels.com

when you visit the link to the UKGC

it is listed under Nektan Limited

https://secure.gamblingcommission.g...egister/PRAccountDetails.aspx?accountNo=39107

all sorts of domains, white labels and several "seperate" affiliate programs..........go figure how big this crime is..........

So any connection to this guy and Bet Reels, who is taking bets on this one ?

 

[AussieDave]

go figure how big this crime is..........

I've pretty much said that, as soon as this load of bollocks was served, to AGD members.
BUT I'll reiterate... Clearly been a BIG con, from the get go. Unfortunately AGD members and others are the poor bastards out of pocket.

Just on the principle of that, and by direct association, BetReels should be rogued, here at AGD.

At the very least, BetReels should lose their certification here at AGD.

So any connection to this guy and Bet Reels, who is taking bets on this one ?

Duwayne and Dieter were partners in Refiliates. So more than likely, these 2 scallywags are in cahoots at BetReels now!

 

[casinonewbie]

Duwayne and Dieter were partners in Refiliates. So more than likely, these 2 scallywags are in cahoots at BetReels now!

ok so lets cash out of Refiliates (with the money of affiliates & players) & start up a new shop, these scum bags could not lie straight in bed......

 

[AussieDave]

ok so lets cash out of Refiliates (with the money of affiliates & players) & start up a new shop

That pretty much seems to be the case.

But they had to manufacture a story, one which played them as the victims too. So... back in June 2016, Dieter claimed they were staying on board for another 2 months after the sale, to make sure it was smooth handover. When people swallowed that, and others gave Dieter high 5's for being a top-bloke, for doing the right thing, the RUSE was finally put into motion.

No one could ever pay me enough, to justify selling people out...

Anyway, shit catches up with everyone eventually. I supposed Dieter will have to get used to looking over his shoulder, now

 

[celena]

ok so lets cash out of Refiliates (with the money of affiliates & players) & start up a new shop, these scum bags could not lie straight in bed......

Hello,

I do not think Duwayne working with Dieter.

I'd ask him something by Skype, for Reffiliates, he was no longer with them.
My message is of March 2016.

 

[AussieDave]

I'd ask him something by Skype, for Reffiliates, he was no longer with them.
My message is of March 2016.

I met Duwayne in person, back in 2009, and he seemed like a decent guy. Maybe Dieter shafted him, too!

 

[Tropica / Cash o' lot]

Hi everyone,

Thought I would post one last time to try and clarify matters once more.

I would like to start by kindly requesting that folks please stop posting if you don't have accurate or constructive information. Some posters here have no basis or merit for their posts and are simply exasperating an already disappointing end to the Refilliates brand - thank you.

Here are the facts:

1. We have no relation to, or investment in, any brand/s other than Betreels. We set up Betreels so that we could build a licensed, regulated gaming business.
2. Under pressure from regulatory bodies, we were forced to sell Refilliates when we launched Betreels and regrettably, the new owners closed the affiliate program soon after taking ownership.
3. We have always treated everyone fairly and have bent over backwards to look after our partners. We had no idea that the new owners would close the affiliate program. As mentioned before, we would never have sold to them if we knew this was going to happen.
4. Duwayne left Refilliates in 2015 to start his own brands.

From day 1, we always looked after players and affiliates (even if they had issues at other Rival casinos). Several times, over the past 3 years, we paid affiliates out of our own pockets when processors refused to settle our transactions. We did not change Affiliate terms in 7 years of operating, despite suffering significant losses due to fraud and processor theft / fines. My point is that we tried to do everything by the book to make sure you remained a partner and got paid. Why would we go through all this just to throw it away in the end?

We don't expect any understanding or sympathy from the folks making malicious, factually incorrect posts here and expect there will be more "trolling" after this post, but at least now, you have the true facts and those without a personal agenda can see that this was something we had no control over. It's like selling your car in good faith and the next month the new owner gets caught drunk driving - you could not have foreseen that or prevented it.

Together, we built a reputable business which we were all very proud of. No-one is more sorry that this happened to you, than me and the team who spent years working 24/7 on our relationships with you and the players.

Now that you have all the facts and hopefully, a better understanding of how we work, you can decide for yourself how you wish to proceed.

Sincerely yours,
Dieter

 

[AussieDave]

Thing is though Dieter, that database of players you sold as part of the Refiliates deal, I dare say 90% of those players were referred by affiliates. As it stand now, you've been paid. Yet your loyal affiliates haven't, and wont ever be again.

Some people have thrown up a comparision to a program who closes shop. But that's a moot point, because you've opened Betreels. Money from the sale of refiliates is in your pocket. Given how this industry operates, and has been proven to operate, it would not surprise me if you've got your own copy of that database, of players, from refiliates, and are using these at BetReels.

BetReels and its affiliate program is blacklisted at DOCH. I know of other affiliates who have done the same.

Business is business. You clearly looked after your own ass, while not caring about your loyal affiliates. Who, reiterating, are out-in-the-cold with zip!

 

[Tropica / Cash o' lot]

AussieDave - For what it is worth, we have not been paid. We received a deposit to commence the sale and have not received the balance. And, Refilliate's base was 94% US and France - 2 of the countries Betreels can't take players from, so yet again, a moot point.

Most readers here know that you have had a grudge against me and the brands ever since you lost a public debate regarding the removal of winnings for breach of terms. You chose to make it personal and have been out to attack our and Rival's reputation ever since. Everything you have posted here (and on other threads) is factually incorrect, malicious and/or without merit. You are simply using the forum to further your agenda. You have been kicked off other sites for incessant trolling and causing dissent. You add no value and quite honestly, serve no purpose.

This will be my final comment here. Readers have all the information they need to make an informed decision. Therefore, I have asked Andy to close the Refilliates account.

Good luck to you,
Dieter

 

[inspiration]

Your partner operated commissionwarehouse.com to promote players palace the microgaming white label which was sold a few years ago to Rewards Affiliates.

With that money and a lot of it was gained by affiliates Duwayne opened Tropica Casino as he wanted to run his own casino, he told me that in those days.

As all was good under the Sun more brand were added but once affiliates had to go through to the loop of different logons for each casino and more restrictions came from a regulatory point of view things went downhill : the bottom line shrunk and it was again time to sell for a profit and invest in a new brand(s). Your business decisions hurt our profits once again.

I predict this cycle of buying and selling brands is profitable for the owners.

But affiliates at betreels will not have life time commissions once again, max for a few years until they sell again.

 

[vegasdog78]

I am glad this is your FINAL comment here "Dieter".

Because you are indeed powerless. You say stop saying inaccurate things but How do we know that you don't make up stories ??? You can say whatever you want the thing is you do not give real proofs as well.

The true facts are :
- You totally messed up your sale. Everybody knows that the company who took over has a bad reputation. Too risky and not ethical but business is business right? And you now considered yourself as a poor victim. Ho poor dieter :-( or whoever he really is.
- You said "Don't worry we will be staying 2 months after the sale to make sure everything is all right". blablabla Hmm yeah we saw that and it was a completely disaster.
- Your communication was terrible. No notice nothing.

Miscommunication and unethical that's it. We don't wanna hear from you or Betreels any more.

 

[james007]

And, Refilliate's base was 94% US and France - 2 of the countries Betreels can't take players from

Sorry for my English...
In any case, for me, the company that bought all your casinos and file French players, especially the ones I had for 5 years, fell into a beautiful trap. Why ?

For I have today informed all my French players per message not to play on Tropica, Sahara, in short, all former Reffiliates casinos. They are blacklisted. One hour after sending this newsletter (Reffiliates casinos in Black List), I received 53 messages of thanks. Just one hour ... I guess tomorrow I'll get at least 350 to 400.

This will make nearly 450 French players less for the buyer of Reffiliates. I do not like crooks and you are one dear Sir, as the Company and its BestPartners crook, a john!

Do not take the affiliates for idiots ... For 14 years I make the affiliation of gambling, I have never seen such crooks. You and John beat all records scam. You sleep at night ?

And finally, I will even send next week the same newsletter, just to be sure my French players have many closed their account Hum...

 

[Redbush54]

You need to tell your players to avoid these brands......they are all connected:

• Tropica

• Casholot

• Ricardo's

• Sahara Sands

• Gibson

• Slot Powers

• BetCave

• Casino Lust

• Vegas Amped

• GoFish

• Dendera

• Fiz

• SupremePlay

• Tradition

• Vegas Days

• EuroFortune

• Play2Win

• RockBet

 

[james007]

For what it is worth, we have not been paid. We received a deposit to commence the sale and have not received the balance.

Lol, it would be funny that BestPay Partners does not pay you all !

I would even say that this would be my wish. A crook who steals another crook !

 

[celena]

Sorry for my English...
In any case, for me, the company that bought all your casinos and file French players, especially the ones I had for 5 years, fell into a beautiful trap. Why ?

For I have today informed all my French players per message not to play on Tropica, Sahara, in short, all former Reffiliates casinos. They are blacklisted. One hour after sending this newsletter (Reffiliates casinos in Black List), I received 53 messages of thanks. Just one hour ... I guess tomorrow I'll get at least 350 to 400.

This will make nearly 450 French players less for the buyer of Reffiliates. I do not like crooks and you are one dear Sir, as the Company and its BestPartners crook, a john!

Do not take the affiliates for idiots ... For 14 years I make the affiliation of gambling, I have never seen such crooks. You and John beat all records scam. You sleep at night ?

And finally, I will even send next week the same newsletter, just to be sure my French players have many closed their account Hum...

Hello James,
C'est cela le pire, la societe qui vient apres, prends tout nos joueurs et ferme les affiliations.
Et ne paie pas les affilies. Avec John aux commande c'est la catastrophe!

In english :
This is the worst, the company that comes after, take all our players and close affiliations. And do not pay affiliates.
With John it's a disaster.

 

[Carlos Daniel]

Warning: 6 Partners is one of the worst affiliate programs my score on a scale from one to 10 is 0. Some cool widgets here like a 'demo trade box' that allows your visitors to place a demo trade in real time right on your site, and includes tracking.