Who Should I Promote For Microgaming

[tryme1]

OK, cards on the table time.

I, Mark, am the virtual mirror image of KasinoKing. KK, as he's never shy of saying, struggles to get conversions for Playtech Casinos.

That's not a problem I've ever had. My problem is the mirror image of that: I can't get Microgaming casinos to convert and, honestly, never have been able to.

So, who should I be promoting for Microgaming. I've tried Brightshare (who are now owned by Fortune Lounge, who I don't trust), Casino Rewards, 32Red, Red Flush and countless others.

So - who do you guys do well with in terms of conversion for your Microgaming traffic?

 

[bonustreak]

Right now the only MG I convert anymore with is Go Wild (My Best) Rewards, Referback(slightly) Red Flush & 32Red (slightly)

 

[sasa]

I would also like to know which Microgaming casinos are good to promote. Currently I only promote 32red and it's quite heavy to get some players there. In terms of average players value Playtech is better option for me.

 

[tryme1]

GoWild? I think I'm an affiliate of theirs but never did anything with them. There was some weirdness that put me off but I can't remember what it was (did they get closed down by their government for a while or something?). Might have to give them another go.

 

[bonustreak]

Never closed down that I know of...

 

[Perc]

My list is down to 2 MG programs with good conversions, retention, and player value - Referback and Star Partner.

Star Partner has had some issues in the past, mainly when they changed to the new default commission structure, but they gave existing affiliates a choice and I'm still on the old commission model.

The thing that strikes me the most about SP, is seeing the same old regular players in the stats month after month, even some from back in my first year 2010-2011 are still playing. They are turning out to be one of the programs I trust the most.

Conversions can be a bit tougher with Referback, but their casinos have been around for a long time and they are heavily promoted, like 32Red, so visitors are more likely to already have an account at those casinos. Retention and player value are both very good.

 

[casinobonusguy]

When did Fortune merge with Brightshare?

 

[slotplayer]

When did Brightshare get sold to Fortune Lounge? I missed that news.
Rewards died for me at the start of the year, clicks went to single digits suddenly.

I have no time these days to even bother with it.

 

[LandofOz]

I've started giving Star Partner more exposure. They seem to convert fairly well.

 

[AussieDave]

Referback is the only MGS which does consitently does well for me each month.
I also promote 32Red (they bundle so I only promote one brand - though hard to convert and keep players). Tried GoWild but could never convert with them. Think in 12 months I made $300.

FLG where my best program for years but now they're sh#t. That's what happens when you start getting ripped off and shaved!

I've tried Brightshare (who are now owned by Fortune Lounge, who I don't trust)

While I've always had my suspicions a number of MGS casino groups were owned by the same entities, I must have missed the thread or information which proved Brightshare is now owned by Fortune Lounge (aka Digimedia). Care to givbe me a link to that information? Thanks.

 

[KasinoKing]

I, Mark, am the virtual mirror image of KasinoKing. KK, as he's never shy of saying, struggles to get conversions for Playtech Casinos.

Did I say that?
Well... maybe once or 100 times!
I actually dread checking my Playtech stats at the end of the month, because I know it's going to be mostly $0, $0, $0, etc...

I don't record conversions in a form that I can easily extract data from, only income.
Last year Playtech casinos made up 6% of my income*, while MG based casinos were 31%.
(Note that I have classed some MG based, multi-software, flash casinos as MG, but also some other flash casinos which include MG, I have under NetEnt)
* In the first 4 months of THIS year, Playtech < 1.5% of my total!

In terms of sign-ups - yeah Go Wild are probably my best. But that's because they offer 50 free-spins without deposit. Not sure if they are my best in terms of number of depositors.

In $ terms, my top 3 MG Based last year were:
32Red (I have been lucky in getting some good players there)
Ladbrokes (RIP)
Go Wild.

But now that I've looked at the figures in that way, I can see that those 3 made up 87% of my total MG income - so the others are pretty much a waste of web-space.
(One factor is I am on a better RS% at those 3 than most of the "also ran" MG casinos - but it's still bad).

KK

 

[tryme1]

OK, so consensus seems to be GoWild and - possibly - Star Partner.

As for the Fortune Lounge/Brightshare thing: Just take a look at the ownership info in the footer of AllSlots and AllJackpots Casino.

This taken from AllSlots:

"2014, all rights reserved©. All Slots© and All Slots Casino© are registered trademarks.
Digimedia Ltd, of Villa Seminia 8, Sir Temi Zammit Avenue, Malta,"

Digimedia Ltd are, of course, Fortune Lounge.

 

[jopaa]

OK

"2014, all rights reserved©. All Slots© and All Slots Casino© are registered trademarks.
Digimedia Ltd, of Villa Seminia 8, Sir Temi Zammit Avenue, Malta,"

Digimedia Ltd are, of course, Fortune Lounge.

So that means even Jackpot City Casino and all other Referback casinos are also owned by FL? ... because Digimedia Ltd is in the footer of these casinos too?

 

[tryme1]

It certainly looks that way, doesn't it.

 

[AussieDave]

OK, so consensus seems to be GoWild and - possibly - Star Partner.

As for the Fortune Lounge/Brightshare thing: Just take a look at the ownership info in the footer of AllSlots and AllJackpots Casino.

This taken from AllSlots:

"2014, all rights reserved©. All Slots© and All Slots Casino© are registered trademarks.
Digimedia Ltd, of Villa Seminia 8, Sir Temi Zammit Avenue, Malta,"

Digimedia Ltd are, of course, Fortune Lounge.

Well actually no... Seems we're all been led to believe from day one, that FL/FA, Carmen Media/Referback and Spiral Solutions/Brightshare/Jackpot Factory have all been owned by seperate owners. Obviously this is not the case. Instead, identical owners have been running these casinos and affiliate programs, from day one. And as such the affiliate community and players have been essentially conned (errr lied to).

With things going the way they are lately with all these skeltons falling out of the closet and earnings from FA and Brightshare hit the brick wall, I have to wonder; I can't help but question, if my referred players have been cross marketed to without assigning credit of these players back to me. This situation opens up a BIG can of worms. And, given all of these programs haven't been up front with us about this, make have even less faith, that who know's what's going on behind the scenes in realtion to my referred players over the years.

 

[jopaa]

Red Returns casinos have Digimedia in their footer too... Well, it seems that all major Microgaming groups are "related" some way.

 

[tryme1]

Well, CasinoRewards, 32Red and, I presume, GoWild are different companies. So, not quite 'all' - but certainly 'the majority'.

 

[Guard Dog]

Yes, the are all interlinked (the ones in Bet4You post). They run separately, as far as I am aware, but were swallowed up some time ago. I know they tried to keep it hush, hush... but that never works for long in this industry.

 

[Perc]

"2014, all rights reserved©. All Slots© and All Slots Casino© are registered trademarks.
Digimedia Ltd, of Villa Seminia 8, Sir Temi Zammit Avenue, Malta,"

That's quite a busy address, same registered address as Go North (Star Partner / Vegas Partner Lounge casinos), Go Wild, and many other companies.

https://www.google.com/#q=Villa+Seminia+8,+Sir+Temi+Zammit+Avenue,+Malta

 

[slotplayer]

Yes, the are all interlinked (the ones in Bet4You post). They run separately, as far as I am aware, but were swallowed up some time ago. I know they tried to keep it hush, hush... but that never works for long in this industry.

sounds like you knew but kept it hush, hush also.