Pure Vegas Casino connected to Gold VIP Club (rogue casino)?

[Engineer]

Today I received piece of mail advertising Gold VIP Club Casino, a known rogue casino.

The envelope was sent to a unique name that I created when I set up an account at Pure Vegas Casino a few months ago. (That is how I know specifically that Pure Vegas is involved.)

My questions for Pure Vegas:

1. Was my personal information stolen by Gold VIP Club, or was it sold to Gold VIP Club?

2. If the information was stolen, what do you plan to do about it?

3. If the information was sold, why should I continue sending players to Pure Vegas if you're going to turn around and cross-market a different brand -- especially a rogue outfit?

 

[WCD Admin]

Some wonder why affiliates are negative and non-trusting of affiliate programs. This is a great example. This stuff happens too often.

Affiliates are fish and the programs are sharks. Some are peaceful whale sharks and some are money-hunting man-eaters. Whale sharks should understand why we flinch when they come close to us, after all we have no idea what type of shark you are.

I'd like to see more understanding from programs towards the affiliates mistrust. To often I'm painted as paranoid instead of half way intelligent.

 

[Engineer]

I just discovered that when you click the download link on gold25free.com (the URL listed all over the post card), a download for Grand Prive comes up. The Grand Prive aff ID is 13255.

 

[dominique]

That's just great!!!

 

[Engineer]

Quick update -- this is being investigated by several people right now. It's being taken very seriously.

 

[inspiration]

If you ask me what to promote I guess you better use the wheel of chance to get an answer..........before I give you a bad example.......

WTF is going on in this industry ???

 

[LandofOz]

I just discovered that when you click the download link on gold25free.com (the URL listed all over the post card), a download for Grand Prive comes up. The Grand Prive aff ID is 13255.

http://gold25free.com promotes granprive.com (RTG), not grandprive.com (Microgaming)

http://granprive.com and http://goldvipclubcasino.com are mirror sites

 

[greek39]

What I think you have Engineer is spam from GoldVipClub casino and their marketers. I was receiving the same such as,
granprive.com/smartdownload.asp?affid=14932

Upon download indeed RTG software Gold Vip Club Casino. I contacted the casino last week expressing my displeasure. Not sure who I had on the phone and it made was clear to me the spamming will never stop. The arrogance, laughter, and the unwillingness to take the matter seriously set the stage for what I did next.

I have no affiliations with Gold Vip Casino and yet they spammed 99.9 percent of my inboxes roughly about 8 made it through. The others were cache at a separate location totalling about 25 that I kept on file.

In my fairest opinion Gold VIP Club Casino is run by criminals, they are regular black hat employers and deserve nothing less than what was done. Although there is plenty more to say I shall refrain other than yes it is being worked on.

However, I am unsure if the two brands Pure Vegas and Gold VIP Club are connected?

So how did they get your email? unsure but a fair bit RTG brands are located in Cyprus always raise red flags for me.

greek39

 

[free4gambling]

I think Pure Vegas is related to C-Planet as i receive the same promotions from Pure Vegas as i get from C-Planet casinos, even come on the same time in my mailbox.

 

[PureCommission]

Hi All –

Thanks to Engineer for bringing this to our attention. We value affiliates who push programs to improve. This is an important service, and it brings industry wide improvements. We are disappointed that engineer got mailed, and have been looking into the situation. While our affiliate program is new to GPWA/Affiliate Guard Dog, the ownership and employees behind Pure Commission are old school, online casino marketing veterans. We are building a respected, trusted, and profitable affiliate program, and are growing it day by day. We are proud of Pure Vegas Casino/Pure Commission and went to the London Affiliate Conference in person to present it. We have nothing to hide, and know that a good reputation takes a long time to build, and a greater effort to maintain.

Pure Commission is an independent affiliate program, operating honestly and candidly. Our ownership, licensing and marketing are stand alone, not connected to any other entities. We contract the Rushmore Group for operational services. Opening a new affiliate program in a competitive environment made it crucial for us to do well from day one. The services we pay for provide our affiliates/players with great conversions, top rate processing, and exceptional support.

I assure you that your data was not sold. We would never even consider that. Such actions are morally abhorrent. Sadly, in recent years, there has been a virus in the industry. Individual brand databases, entire casino software player data, and a whole assortment of other private information are on sale by unscrupulous former or current employees. Every brand and casino software operation worldwide has been affected at one point or another – some breaches can be widespread, and others may be small, never aired openly. It appears the incident is extremely limited in scope. We have not had any reports other than engineer’s, including other affiliate player accounts or our own seeded player accounts in the database. Currently, all security procedures are being tightened, and we do not expect anything like this to occur in the future. It is an ongoing effort. We should all do our part by declining to work with anyone peddling information not belonging to them. This is how we conduct our business. Others should follow suit, and then there would be no market for such activity. Greek39 described his frustrations in the Guard Dog post, and he is not alone.

We work hard day after day, closing deals and broadening the reach of Pure Commission. We just signed a beautiful non-US client on a leading European software which we hope to launch soon. We’ll also have another RTG shortly thereafter. We have grand plans for the future and affiliates are the centerpiece of our marketing strategy.

Many thanks to all affiliates and players.

Pure Commission

 

[Engineer]

Thanks for the response, Pure. I know this issue is being investigated by several people right now, which is good. Hopefully the source of the leak will be found soon.

 

[WCD Admin]

I say this is really strange. Not normal for an affiliate program to help a competing program. Software company, sure? Rushmore Group helping Pure Commission without being connected in the board rooms? I doubt it.

Pure Commission: did you find the leak?
Did you expose them so no other affiliate program could get dupped by them? Or is it a secret because you have to protect the identity of the thief?