how does rival track flash players ?

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    inspiration

    inspiration Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    With regular download you see your id=affid or d=affid but if players want to play flash how will it track our affid?

    :confused:
     
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    inspiration

    inspiration Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    50+ views and nobody chimes in ?

    Is there someone who knows this or should I ask an affiliate manager (if I can get a hold of one these days) ?
     
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    Bonus Paradise

    Bonus Paradise Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Sloto seems to be fine
    Clicked on my link, XXXXhttp://www.slotocash.com/?id=621025
    see my Aff ID in my browser and if I mouse over the Instant Play I see my Aff ID too,

    At BlackDiamond, Box24 and Superior I cannot see the Aff ID then on the Instant Play, but may be that it is still tracked because of cookies?
     
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    slotplayer

    slotplayer Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    heck, I tested this when Inspiration posted and forgot to post.

    The only flash links I use are BlackDiamond and Box24, both write the cookie fine.

    For those that don't know, its easy to check a cookie, use fire fox, not IE.

    with FF version 3.6.8 Click Tools > Options > Privacy Tab > Remove Individual Cookie.

    You'll see all the cookies written. Scroll down to the appropiate one and click the plus sign to expand it or while highlighted delete it.

    Once expanded you'll see the affid id along with a bunch of other data fields.
    Highlight any of the fields and look at the bottom left, you'll see the info.

    I check to see if the cookie is there first and if so take a quick peek at it and then delete it. Then I click my casino link and go back and see if it was written.

    Note: It's a little different in earlier FF versions. I don't have one installed but I think it was labled View Cookies.
     
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    Bonus Paradise

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    What with the normal links? Means someone clicks on the normal link from you and then there on the casino homepage he decided to sign up for flash/instant play, does this track fine?
     
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    slotplayer

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    we're going to have to ask the AM if it tracks all the way through. If they read the cookie then I'd say yes.

    the other way is to first make a test campaign and actually signup for the flash and then look at the stats and see if there is a join under that campaign.
     
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    inspiration

    inspiration Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    I clicked on Davinci Gold flash

    Got this cookie info as referrer id :

    http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davincisgold.com%2F%3Fid%3D286731

    If I use the regular link i get this :

    http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davincisgold.com%2F%3Fid%3D286731

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    For Panatasia this is :

    regular link (my code)

    only this :17099

    for flash :

    http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pantasia.com%2F%3Fid%3D17099


    Is this ok or not ?

    ???
     
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    Engineer

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    It looks like the ID is there in both cases -- seems OK to me.
     
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    slotplayer

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    what site are they on? They look ok.

    I tried DV and Pantasia on your xwww.rivalgamingcasinobonus.com clicking the links on the right and they write the cookie correctly.

    Your affiliate link to DV xhttp://www.davincisgold.com/?id=286731 appears inthe location bar

    You don't see a field named dvg_referrer_banner_id with the following in it?

    This is what I saw.

    Name: dvg_referrer_banner_id
    Content: 286731 (this is your aff id)
    Host: xhttp://www.davincisgold.com
    Path: /
    Send For: Any type of connection
    Expires: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:02:05 PM (cookie last 29 days)

    Links to a Rival landing page whether a Rival home page or a Flash page should all write the cookie when clicked. Once the cookie is written it can only be overwritten or deleted. So if you move within the DV site, ie promotions, flash, cashier as long as they don't deliberately overwrite the cookie or delete it and check for and read it when someone signs up we should get credit.

    The last referrer gets the player.
    A quick test reveals DV overwrite cookies to, that is, I clicked on my DV link on my site, checked the cookie for my affid, then clicked on DV on your site and saw your affid.

    The direct download links are different, they appear not to to write a cookie.
    I'm not sure how they work. Maybe the ID is embedded in the installer file.
    They seem to track ok but now I'm going to double check it.
     
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    Rhondagrace

    Rhondagrace gotaslotonmymind

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    They Don't I had 2 testers signup through the Flash mode at one rival and I didnt get credit for these 2 players :mad:
     
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    Rhondagrace

    Rhondagrace gotaslotonmymind

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    oh, and I said something to the AM and gave them the account names, and they quickly added them to my account...:confused:now what makes them think I still want to promote them! :eek:
     
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    inspiration

    inspiration Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Is this their way of shaving us blind ?

    I am about to dump ALL rivals !

    :mad:

    @Rhonda could you please PM me the casinos that did this so I can do some testing myself ?
     
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    Bonus Paradise

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    This is scandalous! I think we all should know the name of this 2 Rivals.

    Oh and , we all should check on more casinos if the flash works.
    More and more players like to sign up using the flash/instant play button.
    There may be much more casinos not tracking our flash players.
     
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    Rhondagrace

    Rhondagrace gotaslotonmymind

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    Sending Pm Now : )
     
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    Rhondagrace

    Rhondagrace gotaslotonmymind

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    It's Always Vegas Casino, which is owned and operated, by Bonne Chance NV
     
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    Bonus Paradise

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    Thank you Rhonda, good to know that
     

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