Grand Prive VIP Lounge/ Big Dollar VIP Lounge Begging For Affiliates!!!

[bonustreak]

Can you believe this email my partner got today? These clowns are serious! We have to come together and black list these places asap and if I was in NY trust me I would take them up on this meeting. I would love nothing more then to meet these scumbags face to face. Please please let them come to Missouri. Again if you have a blacklisted page please send me your link via a pm so we can make the players aware to stay away!!

Hi ,

My name is Kia and I’d like to take this opportunity to introduce myself and our first-class casinos.Going forward I will be your dedicated VIP Manager, available to you to ensure that your gaming experience is a smooth, exciting and enjoyable one.

I represent two amazing brands – the Grand Privé Group of Casinos and the bold Big Dollar Casino.You had registered an account on either one of them or both in the past. So much has happened since you last played with us and I’m here to fill you in and assist in any way possible.

The Grand Prive Group comprises five strong, attractive and distinct brands, each with their own personalities to spice up your game time. The brands include Casino GrandBay, RoadHouse Reels, Bella Vegas, Jupiter Club and Lake Palace.

Big Dollar Casino encapsulates everything you love about the gaming lifestyle – it’s big, bold, loud, and in your face!

In order to give you a better picture of our brands, I will be traveling to New York especially to visit you. I would like to set up an appointment to take you to lunch to discuss our amazing new casino software, our engaging games and fantastic player rewards programs and ultimately let you in on what’s in it for you!Players from all States are welcome at our casinos and will enjoy an extraordinary gaming experience.

I will be giving you a call to introduce myself and set up a time that is convenient for you but as I may be working with outdated contact information please can you send me your current contact details?

Remember for immediate service feel free to contact our Elite Player Service Centre on 1800 253 5048 or contact them via "Live Chat" on the website for any assistance you need. They are available for your gaming pleasure 24/7. Alternatively you can email me directly atkiadelfava@grandprive{DOT}com or the VIP dept at vip@winhotline.{DOT}com or and we will be sure to assist you.

Looking forward to adding value to your gaming experience!
Kind regards
Kia Del Fava
VP CUSTOMER SERVICES
Grand Prive VIP Lounge / Big Dollar VIP Lounge
Email: kiadelfava@grandprive{DOT}com
Tollfree: 1 800 253 5048
USA Mobile: 1 408 300 4272 (Operational when in USA)
betgrandprive{DOT}com /betbigdollar{DOT}com

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[WCD Admin]

- Takes bets from U.S. players?
- Traveling to New York?
- Am I the only one who thinks this is stupid?

 

[TheGamblingGuru]

When did you move to New York Streak? ;D

Anyway, how did you get that they are begging for affiliates outta that email, it seems to be more focused on the VIP manager being a "VIP Player Rep" to me, but I could have missed it even though I read over it twice..

Actually after reading it a third time it sounds more like they are working on their High Roller/Past Whale Players to get them to return to their (New) brands by furthering their retention efforts by actually meeting with some of their past whales.
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[Eugene]

I really can't understand why it is not beneficial to work fairly and don't cheat anybody

 

[bonustreak]

I am not in NY my business partner is as stated darling. I guess this could be to a player as well but I also know they are starting up the affiliate program heavy so I just assumed they were digging for affiliates as well but either way they are getting blacklisted by us.

 

[FabulousCity]

Re: Kia Del Fava

I met with Kia yesterday. She flew to New York and had dinner with me. She is very much so real. I used to be an affiliate but I am a VIP player with many online and land based casinos. I was on a list and she contacted me. I, too, thought it was a scam and was very leary. However, she called me and we had a nice chat. When she actually met me at my favorite land based casino, I was shocked at how wonderful she was. She was genuine and really cared about me as a player. I also reamed her about the affiliate shaft as well. She wholeheartedly feels badly for what happened, however, it was not her fault and they HAD to close the program. They are implementing another one but it hasn't launched yet. She said all the affiliates were paid so if you weren't, you should contact her. Many of the old affiliates are asking to be put on the new program and she said she understands why you guys are upset. You made a lot of money with Grand Prive. I know they are blacklisted by many but their old managers made a decision to switch software providers because Microgaming gave them no flexibility. They actually designed many of the games in the Microgaming suite but got no credit for it because that was the contract made with them. The new software will allow them to be flexible. She gave me a $300 chip, spent over $250 on dinner and drinks and was absolutely charming. Before you diss her, you should give her a chance. I was an affiliate with Grand Prive, and you should realize that times change and things happen. So I lost my players....it's not the end of the world. If I'm a good affiliate I'll just get more.

 

[WCD Admin]

Just because someone spent $500 on you and was nice is no reason for an entire industry to forgive the company they work for after they robbed people blind... If someone robbed your house and then took me to dinner does that make it okay?

I hope you enjoyed the dinner that was paid for by GP affiliates who got screwed. This is your first post. Why did you come here? How did you know about this thread? Your post doesn't help GP. It looks staged.

I met with Kia yesterday. She flew to New York and had dinner with me. She is very much so real. I used to be an affiliate but I am a VIP player with many online and land based casinos. I was on a list and she contacted me. I, too, thought it was a scam and was very leary. However, she called me and we had a nice chat. When she actually met me at my favorite land based casino, I was shocked at how wonderful she was. She was genuine and really cared about me as a player. I also reamed her about the affiliate shaft as well. She wholeheartedly feels badly for what happened, however, it was not her fault and they HAD to close the program. They are implementing another one but it hasn't launched yet. She said all the affiliates were paid so if you weren't, you should contact her. Many of the old affiliates are asking to be put on the new program and she said she understands why you guys are upset. You made a lot of money with Grand Prive. I know they are blacklisted by many but their old managers made a decision to switch software providers because Microgaming gave them no flexibility. They actually designed many of the games in the Microgaming suite but got no credit for it because that was the contract made with them. The new software will allow them to be flexible. She gave me a $300 chip, spent over $250 on dinner and drinks and was absolutely charming. Before you diss her, you should give her a chance. I was an affiliate with Grand Prive, and you should realize that times change and things happen. So I lost my players....it's not the end of the world. If I'm a good affiliate I'll just get more.

 

[FabulousCity]

Just because someone spent $500 on you and was nice is no reason for an entire industry to forgive the company they work for after they robbed people blind... If someone robbed your house and then took me to dinner does that make it okay?

I hope you enjoyed the dinner that was paid for by GP affiliates who got screwed. This is your first post. Why did you come here? How did you know about this thread? Your post doesn't help GP. It looks staged.

I found it because I searched for Kia's name. I knew that her group was blacklisted and I wanted to let everyone know that she isn't a fake and that she really IS flying to meet players to treat them like they deserved. Why are you saying you were robbed? Did you not get the payments? I understand your player was not yours for life but they closed that affiliate program and have to start new. I was someone's player too, AND an affiliate but I think affiliates can be greedy at times. When I was one, I was greedy and I hated being a part of the affiliate world because of that. I take it you made a lot of money with Grand Prive over the years right?

 

[FabulousCity]

Oh, and I'm sorry that you all feel Grand Prive ripped you off. Even if they did, to me as a player, I could care less. I'm there to play, not to make anyone else money from my play. I have nothing against affiliates and their jobs but again, I'm a VIP player, and that is why Kia came to see me....not to approach me to be an affiliate. She doesn't deal with the affiliates. She only has the VIP players and has a lot of casino experience. I have casino hosts all over the world, and she will be mine at Grand Prive. I do very well on their software. Good Luck to all of you with your programs. I just wanted to tell everyone that Kia was real and that she treated me right. What her company did may have been wrong, but that's not her fault. My company does shit that I don't agree with either, but I'm still working for them.

 

[inspiration]

Looks like you Fabulous City want to get new Grand Prive online and are just a promo tool or partner of theirs. Real VIP players do not hang out on forums like these!

Their software has not been tested and the casinos are rogue. If you say I play there then you must be either a partner or a total newbie.

I just name it like I see it !

 

[Daera]

Looks like you Fabulous City want to get new Grand Prive online and are just a promo tool or partner of theirs. Real VIP players do not hang out on forums like these!

Their software has not been tested and the casinos are rogue. If you say I play there then you must be either a partner or a total newbie.

I just name it like I see it !

That's what I see too!

VIP players couldn't be bothered with searching for one of their "many" casinos hosts in Google, then studying why Rogue Grand Prive is blacklisted, registering at affiliate forums (but not an affiliate), and posting that they have a REAL VIP host. How silly is that?

Did anyone doubt they have a REAL VIP host? No.

Kia works for a company of thieves. Hopefully she can find a more respectable job soon.

 

[KasinoKing]

She wholeheartedly feels badly for what happened, however, it was not her fault and they HAD to close the program.

Yeah, I bet she cries herself to sleep every night..!
Maybe it's true they HAD to close the program, but they didn't HAVE to screw all their affiliates!
We were promised commission for the LIFETIME of the PLAYER, not the lifetime of the AFFY PROGRAM!

They are implementing another one but it hasn't launched yet. She said all the affiliates were paid so if you weren't, you should contact her.

After GP program closed I don't think ANY affiliates were paid the lifetime income they were promised - so Kia could be quite busy!

If GP had even one ounce of integrity they would create a new affy account for all those they stole from, re-link the players they took, and back-date the affiliates' income to Dec 2008...

Anyone holding their breath?

Just as a FYI, I couldn't care less about GP personally; my earnings with them were totally insignificant ($721 over 3-years), but what they did to affiliates was totally unacceptable and must NEVER be forgiven.

KK

 

[GamTrak]

After GP program closed I don't think ANY affiliates were paid the lifetime income they were promised - so Kia could be quite busy!

After the 'fake' eCOGRA audit where Grand Prive made a settlement deal with me which IMO was like 10% of what I feel I should have been paid I NEVER got the settlement payment. I'm thinking it was because I told them to keep it and put it where the sun don't shine, but the point is they never sent my final payment after the audit.

I would not give FabulousCity the time of day because it's obvious that they are IMO NOT legit nor worthy of a response after making a statement like that. In my 10 years as a player forum owner, I've never seen a player take on a role like this imposter has. Like Lori said, it just don't happen like that and we all know it.

 

[FabulousCity]

Looks like you Fabulous City want to get new Grand Prive online and are just a promo tool or partner of theirs. Real VIP players do not hang out on forums like these!

Their software has not been tested and the casinos are rogue. If you say I play there then you must be either a partner or a total newbie.

I just name it like I see it !

Nope, not a promo tool. I played this software before at other casinos and did very well. I won over $6,000 on the game with the cowboy. I can't remember the name. They sent me a free chip to come back and try it and I was shocked that was Grand Prive. I tried it and really didn't like the software at first. They then added some fun games and it's getting better. I came HERE because this is where Kia Del Fava came up when you googled online when I first got her email. I read the post here and was leary but talked to her anyway. I told her when I saw her about this forum and told her I was going to post that she is not a scam and very real. Whether you believe me or not, I really don't care. I just wanted to post that she was a very sweet, genuine person. I don't even care if anyone plays there or not. I had a blast, my money $300 lasted for about 12 hours of non-stop play until I got crazy betting very high. I played at Inetbet too and my money went super fast. When I won the $6,000 at that other casino with the similar software, they paid me within 48 hours. I don't know how you can say it's shady software. I won. I got paid. Period. Many casinos take over a week or more to pay you. Why would I want to even play there? I've been around the casino business since the inception of online casinos and I've played every software brand out there. I'm not an idiot. I know the rouges and the good guys. I've been scammed by affiliate programs as well that wouldn't pay when I brought them players. That is life as they are in another country and really don't have to do a thing..pay players, OR affiliates. I know there are scammer affiliates too and there are MANY greedy ones. I've seen them and it's sickening. They put links on a site and they make thousands a month, just wanting more and more. They should be fortunate they even have a stream of income as the economy is so bad, everyone is struggling. In my real job, I actually sell SM Local and SEO advertising. I'm Google and Yahoo certified ( Yahoo and Bing now since they merged). I know how keywords work and how cheap it is to market online. Whether you think I'm a scammer, advocate whatever, is really none of my concern. I just hate when someone badmouths another person without having the facts. Say all you want about the brand, don't promote them, don't play there. I could care less. I had a very nice time with Kia and I'm glad I went out on a limb and met her. No casino EVER has flown to meet me when I was a VIP. I was with Jackpot Factory, Lassetters, 32Red, you name it. NONE OF THEM FLEW OUT TO SEE ME. This is what I call customer service. I don't give a rats ass what anyone else says or thinks. I won't post here anymore as I'm not an affiliate anymore and really have no purpose other then to clear someone's name. Have a great day~~

 

[FabulousCity]

I understand you were to get income for the lifetime of your player but affiliate programs come and go and open and close. If you didn't get what you should have when it closed, you should call them. That's none of my concern. I really could care less about the affiliates anymore. I'm done with that stressful greedy part of my life. I made good money back in the 90's but I really don't miss it. These casinos are overseas and it was hard enough getting them to pay me as a player let alone an affiliate. Like I said, you can do as you wish, rogue them or whatever. All I wanted to say was that I met Kia, she flew from South Africa to see me and nobody has ever done that.

 

[arkyt]

I represent two amazing brands?? LMAO!

FabulousCity you are a shill!

 

[FabulousCity]

I represent two amazing brands?? LMAO!

FabulousCity you are a shill!

I'm not a shill. I knew Lou and the Captain (RIP) and was an active affiliate a long time ago...
I know the game, how it works and I'm not an advocate of any group. i'm just stating the facts.

 

[Pokerkeep]

I won't post here anymore as I'm not an affiliate anymore and really have no purpose other then to clear someone's name. Have a great day~~

Thanks, have a great life.

 

[FabulousCity]

Thanks, have a great life.

Thank you, I will! Just for the record, I never withdrew my affiliate money. It always went back into the casino. I couldn't see myself spending money that others lost. I felt greedy doing so. The affiliate world is filled with it.....

 

[JustCruizin]

This is my first post here, but I've been an affiliate in this business for many years & still am. Kia was trying to get to me as a player also, but I didn't return her calls because I wasn't interested in being schmoozed.

I've played this software extensively & love it. I don't know who you all get to "test" it, but it's legit, trust me. I've been around long enough to know.

As far as Grand Prive, get over it already. In the real world, businesses go under all the time without paying their debts. Some of them regroup & restart, and usually their vendors will go with them again. Gambling affiliates are not exempt from the same business risks that real world businesses face, and if real world businesses were as nasty & vengeful as gambling affiliates are, there'd be a lot of libel lawsuits going on in the courts.

I can't wait for any of the BetOnSoft casinos to get their affiliate programs going, and please, by all means, continue to boycott them because that'll mean more biz for me!! ;D