Fake 7Red Affiliate Manager - BEWARE

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    zoorana

    zoorana AGD Member Ltd

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    Hello all,

    I found out today that i've been scammed by a guy pretending to be an affiliate manager from 7Red Affiliates. He goes by the name of Davy Wahrheit.

    He contacted me via my site wanting to recruit me sometime in mid December 2011. I checked their website and upon seeing that the program is certified at AGD, i gladly agreed to register. It was rather strange however as unlike the usual registration, where i'd have to fill in the details myself, Davy requested that i gave him the username and password that i want and that he'd register for me so i could get the deal he offered.

    Earlier today, i couldn't log in to my account. I sent an email to support only to be given a new password. I thought it was strange that the password (that i was asked to choose) was changed. What was the point of letting me choose in the first place? Besides, it has only been a couple of months since i joined. So i asked the affiliate manager who had given me the new password, Rudy, if i could ask why i wasn't notified. He claimed the password was changed with notification but they didn't have my contact details and he went further asking who i was contacted by when i joined.

    I replied with the story above and a minute later Rudy responded that that was a fraud. Some guys had pretended to be them and that was why they had to block some accounts.

    I haven't been in this industry for long there're still plenty to learn but pretending to be an affiliate manager like this is not only not tolerated it is also extremely despicable. Thankfully (weird i'm saying thankfully) there were no revenues made for that two months.

    Normally, i'd only do a check on the affiliate program. I never never thought of doing a check on affiliate managers. Do you?

    And not forgetting, i want to say thanks to Rudy again for all his help and super fast replies today. I'd like to point out that Rudy was extremely kind and helpful i am happy for him and his program that they managed to catch these buggers on time.

    Well, thank you for listening i just want to share this with you all and hope that you aren't a victim of this.

    Goodnight.
     
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    Guard Dog

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    Forget it.. I think that I am confused...

    The person who contacted me was Rudy and was giving me a separate 7Red account (not really sure why), but seems on the up and up. Did create a new account for me. Not 100% sure why.
     
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    bonustreak

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    CaseyM

    CaseyM Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    I never let people sign up for for me as I don't want them using me as their sub affiliate without my knowledge
     
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    zoorana

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    Sorry for the confusion. I was so tired last night i didn't read twice what i wrote. I could have explained it better perhaps..

    If it was Rudy, you should be fine. He's the real affiliate manager. It's Davy the fake manager that you've got to worry about. Going around pretending to be an AM and recruiting affiliates so he could get what you make is downright despicable.

    Fake AM Davy Wahrheit's email is davy@7redaffiliates.fr

    Rudy said that all the 'suspicious accounts' have been locked. If you could still log in to yours, then you're not a victim. I'm thinking that these recruitment spree didn't go that far back. If you signed up recently, meaning not more than two to three months, then you should check your account.
     
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    theshortstack

    theshortstack Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    What's the deal with this?! I'm now getting Rudy getting in touch with me telling me that he needs to set me up with access to 7Red's VIP program ... and this can only done manually?

    How many affiliate programs have 7Red got?!
     
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    Guard Dog

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    I don't understand it either, to be honest. Rudy set me up (even though I already had an account). Then Rudy contacted me again to set me up again. It's all very weird, IMO.
     
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    theshortstack

    theshortstack Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    To be honest, it really puts me off Red7. There are just so many grey areas about the program. I thought the other issues in the thread had been answered (if not totally resolved) and now a week after signing up to the program, I'm being asked to provide sign up details to another network that only Rudy can sign me up to.

    I just don't like all this cloak and dagger stuff - it doesn't really instill confidence!
     
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    zoorana

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    I have no idea how many affiliate programs they've got. I'm confused myself. But it seems that if it's Rudy that's handling your account, you should be alright. I think. I hope.

    One thing for sure, i don't understand why they want to do all these extra works setting up your account for you to get the promised commission. 7 Red really needs a new program. Or just simply stop with all these double signups. With the current one they've got, it clearly annoys webmasters and attracts people like Davy Wahrheit.
     
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    7Red

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    Hi,

    Rudy is our affiliate manager and any email received from 7red.com is legit.

    The fake one used a different domain so just watch out from such cases.

    This was the first time someone tried to impersonate as an affiliate manager. We have a lot of affiliates who recruit sub affiliates but they do it in a legit way and not trying to pretend being an affiliate manager.

    We will do our best to avoid such cases in the future.

    Best Regards,
    Michael Gold
    Marketing Director
    7Red.com
     
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    theshortstack

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    Thanks for the response Michael - can you just confirm why there are two different affiliate networks for 7Red? And why the one I'm being asked to sign up now isn't the one which is linked to from 7Red.com?


     
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    7Red

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    Our official program is Cherry Affiliates (Cherry Affiliates - Gambling affiliate program with high commission for 7red, Playcherry, Danmarksautomaten, Norgesautomaten and Sverigeautomaten). Our old program still exists as we didn't want to force affiliates change their tracking codes.

    Sometimes we offer affiliates to move to the old program because it has some features that suit their needs such as creating sub affiliates, working on CPA models or synchronizing stats through XML.

    Best Regards,
    Michael.
     
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    FAZIII1

    FAZIII1 Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Helo im need contac with 7 red affiliate manager - im wona promotiing this brand but i dont know i must use chery affiliates or others affiliates panel - now you have 2 affiliate Panel for ONE brands 7 red. so im dont know whos panel is good now . - please contact with me in my skype FAZIII1 rudy or somone from 7 red affiliates.....
     
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    DoggyStyle

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    Wire Transfer only + minimum €400 !!

    I don't want to start a new thread.

    I just logged in at CherryAffiliates and this message popped up.

    Following payment methods are available now:

    Wire Transfer (7Red and Norgesspill payments)
    PlayCherry Player Account (for PlayCherry payments)
    Eurolotto Player Account (for Eurolotto payments)

    Minimum amount: €400.00 !!!


    No more Moneybookers (Skrill) and Neteller AND a minimum of €400 to get paid! That's some real BS!
     
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    PaaskeUK

    PaaskeUK Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Hi

    I am very confused as well. Who is this then???

    Roy Sasson

    Affiliate Manager

    Skype

    Roy.777Affiliates

    roy@777affiliates.com

    this states 777 afiliates but is also 7red casino???

    hope someone can help urgent.
     
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    PaaskeUK

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    I have that guy chasing me to get urgent promoting up. But at same time also get emails from 7red Affiliates with this login??

    CHERRY Affiliates
     
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    tryme1

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    OK, I'm confused now too.

    I signed up fairly recently at CherryAffiliates.com only to find that 7Red Casino wasn't listed as one of their properties. I then signed up at 777Affiliates, where they most definitely do have 7Red and Roy Sasson is my AM there. Some clarification needed here!
     
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    theshortstack

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    And just to make the waters even murkier, I'm fairly sure there were two separate stands at LAC for Cherry Affiliates and 7Red ... although I'm happy to be corrected if I'm wrong.

    I think the over-riding feeling here is just to stay away from both of them. There are other casinos running the same software if you really like their games that appear to be much more transparent.
     
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    aajoakim

    aajoakim Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    7Red movied earlier this year from cherryaffiliates to 777affiliates. Cherryaffiliates does no longer promote the 7red brand.
     
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    7Red

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    Cherry Affiliates does not promote 7Red anymore. Cherry Affiliates still exists, just not promoting our brands.

    777Affiliates do.
     
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