considering selling Gambling.org - what do you think its worth?

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    big fish

    big fish Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    I am considering selling one of my top domains:

    Gambling.org

    I am curious as to what you all think this name is worth. I have my ideas but would like to hear from the community on this matter...

    Thanks!
     
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    xecutable

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    Well it's a 21 year old domain, it's neat, a single word. However such a generic word can't be really branded, and the common user has evolved a lot from the 2000s, to simply pop "gambling" in google to meet his searching needs. I'd say you can perhaps get 6 digits for it from the right company. For the common affiliate, highly doubt it's worth the investment, after Google's devaluations on exact domain matches etc.

    Obviously you've ran the site, and you know it's conversion/traffic potential. I'm just guesstimating around here.
     
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    TheGooner

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    Assuming that we are just talking about the name.

    Does a domain name matter much these days?
    Certainly far less than in the past - and the value of this domain has certainly peaked.

    PRO :
    It has the simplicity to be memorable and for the site to appear to a real long term established portal or news site ...
    :cool:

    CON :
    But many might point to the fact that it lacks brand-ability to standout.
    eg/ The best Search engines are not at searchengine.org ... they are google.com, bing.com and duckduckgo.com (WTF?)
    :confused:

    COMPARISION :
    When I look at the basic operation posted up at competitor location gambling.com, it's a real surprise - a standard affiliate push site.
    And gambling.net is much the same, while gambling.biz is just a Sedo generated parking placeholder.

    So after viewing the other sites on gambling.anything I don't really see a brandable operation or a high profile business using them.

    SUMMARY :
    In the past it would have been a valuable property - but exactly what advantage will this site give you now for the money betting terms?
    Especially as the specific money phrases don't usually include the word gambling ?

    I'd guess a quick sale would net somewhere between $5,000-$10,000 just simply because it looks good. An auction may double that.
    If you can find someone who falls in love the with name then you might get 10x more ... but it could take months / years to find them.

    This domain would have been worth much more 5-10 years ago, and will be worth significantly less in the future.
    The trend for mobile users (who don't see domain names), and many, many more generic tlds has killed the idea of related high value domains.

    If you're not using it well. Sell it* (see proviso below)

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    PROVISO QUESTION :
    Do you get vast amounts of traffic to this site just because it is named what it is?
    Are you getting 5k+ visits a day? If so then keep the domain and utilise it.
    :D
     
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    big fish

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    thanks for your thoughtful analysis gooner. however its way off. i have already declined much higher offers than your highest assumption. i think that you never liked me much for some reason, not sure why, but it still comes across in this post.
     
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    big fish

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    thanks
    thanks for your reply and guestimating still
     
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    big fish

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    i don't sell links, not sure where you got that idea from
     
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    Biti

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    .com is bought by KAX Media for a few million if I'm right. But that was in another time.

    I think it's useful for some organization or gambling news website. But who's going to pay a lot for it. I would put it up for sale for $ 25.000 and see what's happening.
     
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    TheGooner

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    I have no idea who you are Mr Fish - and looking at the message posts numbers on this board - just 19 in 6 years - it's unlikely that I've been offended or pissed off by your posts in the past.
    So you'll just have to believe when I say that there is no grudge.
    :cool:

    Sorry that I didn't agree with your valuation - but I've never been a domain hoarder - and hopefully my post explained why I thought that way even if you think it's completely wrong.
    As an analogy - I guess that someone that doesn't understand crypto wouldn't value BTC highly either ...


    But a look at known gambling domain name sales shows a lot of 4-figure deals.
    http://gamblingdomains.com/gambling-domain-sales-history-2017/

    So perhaps the low value I ascribed is because I simply don't understand demand in the name markets as we head to name overload
    o_O

    Can you could explain why you and others (who have offered higher value - 6 figures?) value it so highly?
    - Does it bring great traffic volumes?
    - Is Gambling a special money keyword in this industry?

    I am aware of these sort of prices ... in the 1990s and 2000 ... but apart from ebet.com (WTF?) there is nothing in the last five years. These days are gone.
    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/most-expensive-gambling-domains-all-time-pierluigi-buccioli
     
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    Shay

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    This is surely spot on.

    If you were looking for a quick buyer "today" - $5-$10K as an asking price would surely have the domain gone "today". If you were patiently waiting for a sale, I could see it go for $100K and not be shocked.

    I also think that there were more $100K domain buyers in the market of yesteryear than there is "today" or "tomorrow" and this is reflected in my own bit of "domaining". I'm willing to spend lest on what I once viewed as "premium" or "almost premium" domain names. Likewise, in the rare instances where we unload domains, we're not getting nearly as much out of the higher end names. In part the .everythingyoucanimagine extensions watered down the value of domain names in part.
     
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    A domain is only worth as much as a buyer is willing to pay for it. I've sold a domain that I purchased for $8 and didn't think much of for a nice 5 figure sum, while I can't get anywhere near the same price for domains that I purchased for a lot of money many years ago. It's crazy, but I do agree with most people that premium domain names are not valued quite as much today as they were many years ago.
     
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    My opinion is that nowadays a domain valued at 100k? Anyone with business sense and know how on how to rank a site will take one for $20 and spend the other 99,980 building a site for a huge ROI...
     
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    Zuga

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    domains alone these days are not worth as much as in the past. What used to be a premium domain back in a day today is just that , a domain. Without much going on the site itself, with no traffic and earnings to show for i highly doubt you would get more than 4 - low 5 figures tops...

    But then again a domain is worth as much as ppl are willing to pay for it. Either way good luck to you :)

    just my 2 cents.
     
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    I have these domains

    www.newonlinecasino.com Brandable
    www.online-casinos.eu European Market
    www.onlinecasinospiele.com Brandable German / Deutsche Online Casinos

    which I considered selling but the response I got was not much encouraging as I was leaning towards 4 - low 5 figures.

    I guess Gambling.org is a nice domain but the dot org is depreciating its value.

    IMO a quick sale 10-$15K should be possible but anything between 20-$100K you need a domain marketeer and a long waiting period.
     
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    big fish

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    i'm definitely not looking for a quick sale, hence the word "considering" in the post title. only thinking about it. no way would i ever sell it for 5 figures either. i agree that the domain mania of years past is not as strong as it was but there is still a market for domains as i've sold several high value domains this year, and even purchased a couple as well. its just not domainers buying domains on speculation but end users with a business plan in place that are making high value purchases these days
     
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    AussieDave

    AussieDave 17 years & still going!

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    @big fish - just so you know who I am (I sold you gamblerslodge.com, back in 2002 or there a bouts). With regards to TheGooner, don't take anything he says personally. His posting style can be very analytical in instances like this. Known him for literally years. I honestly can't recall him holding a grudge, or ill will towards anyone.
     
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    Webzcas

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    @big fish I would just list it at Sedo with a minimum you are prepared to accept. In the meantime if you have time to work on the site, do so. Or you could consider leasing it out to another affiliate to work with it. That way the domain provides you with a revenue stream with the caveat if the lease does not get renewed you have a larger site and domain to sell or move on with.
     
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    big fish

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    thanks dave! i'm already working on it. just launched online.gambling.org as an online gambling guide in addition to the main domain. i really prefer not to sell it, just getting an idea of what people think. given some of the replies here i won't sell it but instead build it out as one of my main sites
     
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