Casino Rewards Afilliate Problem pleased read how they Calculate Commite ridiculous

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    FAZIII1

    FAZIII1 Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Helo So im have Problem With Casino Rewards . Calculate Comite So 3 month ago IM registered in Casino Rewards affiliate and chose options 35% Wager Model - I dont know why this options names is 35% if wager Model is 1.3%(Slots) But ok. Minumum Withdrawal in Casino Rewards Is 200$ So First month im ern only 5$ becose im have small site .. next Month im add to my site all No deposit Promotions and Exclusive Promotions From Casino Rewards ( Lucky Emperror 10 free Virtual City Casino 10 free - now 20 free after 10 cent deposit, and 1 $ deposit 20 bonus in Quatro Zodiac And Nostalgia. and starts ern first money in my secund Month im ern over 100$ -

    Speek in skype with Casino rewards manager to ask few qestion - she look in my panel and suggest me to try find better player( Depositors players ) So im add Good deposit promotions for all casino ( Casino rewards group ) and promote deposit Promotions more intensive. in 3 month my work im ern 118$ Have good DEPOSIT player who do ME whery Big Wagering and ern me 100$ ( In 1.3% Wager model !) and a lot small wager model ernings. so finnaly after 3 month im have in my accont more then 200 ( 235) - so im can do payout- succes?? No no Succes Becose sudenly 3 January im Look in my Panel and they change me Comite to Ravenu share and Change me My ernings Foor all December Month --- and calculate it using Ravenue share.

    So today is 3 January ( Payments usualy are done 7 January) So 2-3 January they probably look all afilate panels and after check Im ern A lot for one DEPOSITORS. - With mode WAGER 1.3% ! they delated my all money and give me ravenue share calculations for my all december Ernings so they change my 118 $ ( ernigs for 1.3% wager model ) to 9$ ( Calculations Ravenue share) Casino Rewards Affiliates is GOOD group? So why they use This Bad practice and if Person Work all month with Wager Model - Your Affiliate departamed Decided This Model is too good for this person Mayby we change this model? No We change This model and Change ALL MONEY who this person Erned in last 30 days!!! I dont like when affiliate cheting me Mayby Rene - the best affiliate manager in row For few yers .... - Tell Me Whats is THIS? In Casino Rewards Affiliate check All players carefully , If is some Multiaconts - they delated ernings for this person GOOD- thats normal . - But if affiliate person Chose options Wagers model - and after 3 hard month finaly ern over 200 minimum payments They decided wager model is too god for him and change my 118$ (1.3% wager model ernings to 9$ 30% deposit ernings ravenue)

    This is No good --This is bad practice This is Stelings my money who im alredy erned. This practice is Normal In Casino Rewards? Next time if somone ern 200$ they decided change all ernings few days after payments too Some beter Model for them. - GOOD Afiliate Place Never Change comite WITH MONEY who was alredy erned in last 30 days - This is Very long post but im very nervous To much affilaite gamlbing place try Bad practice and Afiiliate person LOSE Money.
     
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    Guard Dog

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    You might want some paragraphs here... It's very hard to read. I don't even really understand it. I'm sure Renee will be along to explain everything. Do you give her permission to explain your details here?
     
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    FAZIII1

    FAZIII1 Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Of corse hard to read ? my English is weak im know My Problem in few sentences is Im work With Comitte Type Wager Model ( this is model who do ernings me 1.3% $ for every 1$ (100%) dolars wagered for my New players) Minimum payments is in rewards 200$ so It took 3 months to cross the 200$ - in december im erned 118-119 for this model 1.3% for my all players. and 30 december im do payments 238$ and waiting to pay day - And Today im look in my panel and see they change my comitte to ravenue - back money to Afiliate panel but only 128$ ! and Change me my all money amount - Money earned in December - and calculate all month December using ravenue share - Delted me Over 100$ -So they decided change me my comitte 2 January - Comite FOR DECEMBER! and calculating ernings again and im Lose over 100$ 30 december do payments 238 - 2 January see in panel Money back - 128 and new Comite Ravene share - afff aconts FAZIII1
     
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    bonustreak

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    Hope you do not mind I separated your post into paragraphs it was very hard to read :) Your English is just fine..
     
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    Renee

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    Hi all

    Just to clarify, the affiliate's account was changed from the Wager Model to Tiered Revshare according to the following term in our T&Cs:

    If you choose the 35% Wager Model commission option and your account is found to only be sending players who have an extremely high bonus to purchase ratio, i.e. where the bonuses are more than 500% of the deposit amount, or only claiming no deposit bonus offers, we reserve the right to automatically switch you to commission option 3 being Tiered Revshare. This change will be counter active and your account will be adjusted to reflect the change.

    The affiliate sent 18 new purchasers in December, 4 of which purchased $1 and received $20/$25 bonus, and 12 of which purchased 10c and received $20 bonus. 2 purchased $20 to receive $100 bonus (same player on 2 different casinos).

    The affiliate has also told me that he knows his players, and has previously sent me account numbers and email addresses of them, and pointed out the player who purchased $20 on 2 different casinos in December.

    The reason we have this term is because the wager model pays commission on bonuses making it very easy to take advantage of the program using the $1 min purchase casinos. Player deposits $1, gets $20 bonus and wagers it, making more money for the affiliate than the deposit. It doesn't take a genius to figure out the rest.

    Since the affiliate has threatened to post my skype conversation here, I thought it was only fair to come in and speak for myself.

    Any questions let me know.
    Cheers

    Edit: I should also mention that I told the affiliate that if he was able to start sending players who were not just depositing on those casinos, continuing to make deposits and not just jumping from one casino to the other taking max bonus for min deposit, I would be happy to change him back to the wager model.
     
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    FAZIII1

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    The affiliate has also told me that he knows his players, and has previously sent me account numbers and email addresses of them, and pointed out the player who purchased $20 on 2 different casinos in December. - NOT TRUE this is funny - im can copy all conversations
     
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    Renee

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    Are we really going to do this?

    [11:15:25 AM] RXXXXX BXXXXXXXX - XXXXX: im anderstand but im bring 2 depositors player 20$ probably in december.

    I'm busy and I don't have time for this.
     
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    FAZIII1

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    1.3% Wager Model Rene nobody dont so stupid to do fraud with 1.3% ravenue share im know im have 2 depositors 20$ in december becose you change me my all ernings for december and commite and im now can see this in my panel . Can see deposit ammont for this december players.. and you still try show im dont know what? only reason to dont pay me my commite? ehhhh
     
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    FAZIII1

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    sorry im cant edit post and sorry for this rubbish with post after post..= No body so stupid to fo fraud with 1.3% Wager model *
     
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    Renee

    Renee Affiliate Program Representative

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    None of our commission models show deposit amounts and revshare does not show individual player accounts/stats. Since you had 18 depositors, it would be impossible to see which players deposited which amounts.

    OK this is my last post about this. Andy if you need any extra info from me, please email me.
     
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    FAZIII1

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    Im promoting promotions with High Bonuses - yes i do this Promotions No deposits and good deposits bonus becose this was good for me and and not wrong with terms and conditions im have in my site all FREEPLAY PROMOTIONS and 1 deposit 20 bonus promotions so if im have baner with all free play im see in my panel deposits to PLP( Player palace casino ) and CSH ( Casino share) see in my panel bonus 100 so im know this players do deposit 20 to get 100 bonus in free play promotions ( Im have all baners free play promotionsi Im cant copy my panel to show this becose i dont have 15 post to show ) Im dont know what you try show pople why you try say thats my fold- You deleted my money back and try show , you are god and this is bad person and do fraud to ern 1.3% for every 1 dolars$ wager my player - funny but yes im fish in this forum and you work in gambling for long time so you must have rations ....... im still say same things this was bad practice delated my money back for decmber - and if i do somthing wrong - im never enter alll situations in biggest affiliate forum becose im know how this work and what affiliate person can do - and what CAN T
     
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    You might want some paragraphs here
     
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    FAZIII1

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    3 more post and im copy rulez show panel - ( I must have over 15 post to do this) For now im contact with other AFFILIATE PERSON to know how look ther caluclate comiite in Rewards - AFFILIATE person - No PLAYER RENE heh - and you know what? this is probably massive actions casino rewads do this trick with alot person - deleted comite back for all month and all ernings- Wait - soon im show this issue other Affiliate person who work with Casino rewards with erning Model ( Wager Model)- all person same situations - This was massive actions - you can Write what do you wont abaut me - but im clear im have proof - and soon others players send same story in this ISSUE - They do same things (delated money -30 day back)with A Lot Person who working with Wager Model
     
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    You can post images as far as I am aware. Just use the attachment feature.
     
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    Your posts are hard to read and I do not completely understand what you're aiming at FAZIII1.

    Although there are issues regarding their cross promotion without giving affiliates proper credit for the referred players thru their spammy email campaigns, I do not recognize your problem as far as commissions are concerned.

    I you have proof post it please without it your posts have no value at all.

    I have no problems with rewardsaffiliates regarding the wagershare model, for me it is the most profitable option.
     
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    FAZIII1

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    Mayby my post are hard to read but .... some day you understand what I mean..... some month when you give him players with small amounts of deposits and Big Wager - and you ern in this Month Good amount they change your comite 2 or 1 days after payments and change all good ernings for last 30 days and calculate all month using Ravshare comision.

    - And answer will be - we can do this this is good with terms and contions we can switch comite in any moments - and we can Switch ALL earnings for last 30 days If we wont? -NO. My post showing clear my problem -Delated Money alredy ernings with last 30 days. And if terms and conditions say we can swift ernings model if see player to intesive promoting High Ratio Bonus So ok

    But terms and conditions dont say nothing abaut we can Delated Money - alredy erned in last 30 days becose player Promotions to intesive High Ratio Bonus Promotions. And Rene know this so now try say im know players but im alredy show all my story in all situations in my previous Post.

    - abaut proof Rene copy piece of our conversation
    when im try copy others piece of conversations showing interesting things or copy my afiliate panel im see "Errors
    The following errors occurred with your submission

    You are only allowed to post URLs to other sites after you have made 15 posts or more"

    : If you choose the 35% Wager Model commission option and your account is found to only be sending players who have an extremely high bonus to purchase ratio, i.e. where the bonuses are more than 500% of the deposit amount, or only claiming no deposit bonus offers, we reserve the right to automatically switch you to commission option 3 being Tiered Revshare. This change will be counter active and your account will be adjusted to reflect the change.



    so this terms say we can change your money alredy erned for last 30 days? im dont think so
     
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    dominique

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    It does say that.

    I have been on the wagershare system for years and I really like it. But I don't promote the things you promote - I like match bonuses and such. It attracts better players. Advertising freebies may get you more volume, but it makes you less money.
     
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    FAZIII1

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    Last Post - for Rene - IM dont wonna no more work with Casino rewards Affiliates becose im cant work in place where Delated money for last 30 days is good with terms and contitons.- So Pleased Close my affiliate Acount and send rest my money from affiliate panel to my Moneybokers.
     
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    Guard Dog

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    That is because you are linking an URL, not attaching an image like vBulletin allows (which was what I mentioned previously)
     
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    FAZIII1

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    IM send Request to Pleased CLOSE MY affiliate acount and pay me rest money from my accont - SO THIS is not possible in casino rewards affiliates? Becose my accont still open???
     

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