Buffalo Partners / Betway – Change of agreed rev share on 170 depositing players and more

Discussion in 'Affiliate and Program Issues' started by Joonas, Jan 19, 2018.

  1.  
    Joonas

    Joonas New Member

    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    6
    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2017
    Hey

    Buffalo Partners / Betway changed our agreed and confirmed revenue share of 35% to 25% without mutual agreement, prior communication or notice. In November and December, we delivered a total of 170 depositing players – all of which this change will affect.

    My advice is to only work with them when you have a clear and signed contract.

    Let's work together and only promote sustainable and reliable operators.

    Joonas
    Good Game Ltd
     
  2.  
    Biti

    Biti Active Member

    Messages:
    432
    Likes Received:
    235
    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2015
    My advice is to not work with them. They're rogue for years and for things way worse than 'just' changing a deal.
     
    Shay likes this.
  3.  
    Alexisss

    Alexisss New Member

    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    9
    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2017
    The lunch served up by Buffalo at the affiliate conferences is courtesy of the affiliate shavings - avoid them like the plague
     
    Shay likes this.
  4.  
    Rick Perry

    Rick Perry AGD Member Ltd

    Messages:
    61
    Likes Received:
    10
    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2015
    I also dislike them (Buffalo), their affiliate system sucks. I am wondering why BetWay agreed to go under Buffalo..
     
  5.  
    KasinoKing

    KasinoKing Player turned affiliate.

    Messages:
    2,675
    Likes Received:
    896
    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2009
    BetWay has always been owed by the same people as Buffalo (the old Wager Share Group).

    They pretended to spilt away from WS in October 2013 for political reasons (new gambling regulations IIRC), but anyone who believed they were truly independent must have rocks in their head!

    KK
     
    Alexisss and Shay like this.
  6.  
    Joonas

    Joonas New Member

    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    6
    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2017
    UPDATE: After posting this comment on Affiliate Guard Dog, Buffalo Partners agreed to honour the agreed 35% revenue share.
     
    Zuga likes this.
  7.  
    Biti

    Biti Active Member

    Messages:
    432
    Likes Received:
    235
    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2015
    Thus now this criminals are a "sustainable and reliable operator" again?
     
    Roulette Zeitung and Alexisss like this.
  8.  
    AussieDave

    AussieDave 17 years & still going!

    Messages:
    2,997
    Likes Received:
    1,534
    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2013
    Well, we all know the answer to that question, right!

    Thing is though, the OP obviously has a decent amount of depositing players here, and I highly doubt he's going to drop BP. Just like other affiliates who have decent player bases (here and elsewhere). I was in the same boat too. While I was 99.999% sure I was getting shafted, I was still making decent coin. To drop BP, meant I'd lose x%, which was still a fair chunk.

    BP pay, and although they are very questionable, being paid and maintaining one's livelihood, unfortunately takes precedence. Which BP (and others know), otherwise they wouldn't enforce quotas, nor reduce commission %'s if quotas are not met ;) Sadly it's a wicked circle, where most of the time affiliates are behind the 8-ball, and are held to ransom per se.
     
    Zuga and BetOnlineUK like this.
  9.  
    Roulette Zeitung

    Roulette Zeitung Affiliate Guard Dog Member

    Messages:
    134
    Likes Received:
    82
    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2012
    Due to the Paradise Papers it turned out, that Betway is connected with a real Italian Mafia Crime Family, with murderers, which are chased by the UK justice department.

    As a result, Buffalo/Betway is under criminal investigation also by the Belgium government.

    It is a proven fact, that Buffalo is part of a worldwide operating criminal organisation, which hacked hundreds of thousands of websites, the reason, why their sponsorship was terminated at GPWA.

    Also Aussie Dave reported about that hacking wave in the public: "Literally 1000's of innocent sites have been hacked and it continues, even though the casino affiliate program AM, claims the account has been disabled."

    Source: https://plus.google.com/+DaveMikkelsen

    He also stated some years ago on GPWA, that "Affiliates who promotes rogue casinos not only casts a bad light onto their own web site(s) and reputation but also affects the reputations of all casino affiliates" and announced that his new website "has been establish to taken active stand again any casino affiliate that promotes rogue casinos."

    Source: http://www.gpwa.org/forum/warning-all-rogue-affiliates-you-will-blacklisted-188200.html

    That means, hurting the business of affiliates with public blacklisting which is the wrong way. I would never ever promote Buffalo, because it's a proven fact, that they are criminals, but that does not mean, that the webmasters of such programs are also criminals or less worth than others.

    Leopold
     
  10.  
    Biti

    Biti Active Member

    Messages:
    432
    Likes Received:
    235
    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2015
    I think he will continue promote BP, perhaps even harder than before. "Let's work together" and "Just work with sustainable and reliable operators" you usually hear when people have a problem with a certain program A bit like another user last week. We hear of them just when they don't get paid by one of the dodgy programs they're promoting.

    It's not about questionable, not paying on time or shaving here. BP is actively involved in criminal activities for years. Activities that are not only illegal, but are costing us all income.
     
  11.  
    CL-Ed

    CL-Ed Affiliate Guard Dog Member

    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    79
    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2017
    Wow. Link please?
     
  12.  
    Roulette Zeitung

    Roulette Zeitung Affiliate Guard Dog Member

    Messages:
    134
    Likes Received:
    82
    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2012
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2018
    CL-Ed likes this.
  13.  
    Freespins74

    Freespins74 New Member

    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    1
    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2017
    Im not defending BP but its sensational journalism , so they use a lawyer who was involved in an investigation with the mafia, it hardly ties Betway to murders !
     
  14.  
    Roulette Zeitung

    Roulette Zeitung Affiliate Guard Dog Member

    Messages:
    134
    Likes Received:
    82
    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2012
    Of course, and because it is "sensational journalism" only, the Belgium government has nothing better to do than to investigate this matter. And the Paradise Papers with that evidencer of course are only a Fata Morgana and does only exist in dreams.

    Wake up!

    This "lawyer" is nothing else than the strawman for Mafia financing, quasi a Consigliere. And if you would know anything about the Mafia, that you would know, that no one can be a full member of any Mafia Crime Family until he kills someone and that the killing of people was, is and will be a key element of any Crime Family.

    Shall I remember you, how the Mafia only some months ago, probably colluding with Government and part of the Police killed a - you would call her a "sensational journalist" - how they killed a women, Mrs. Daphne Caruana, who was to close at the truth with respect to the connection of Malta, gambling industry and Mafia?

    But of course, this is also only "sensational journalism" and that women is in reality still alive and a fake corpse was planted by conspirators.

    One should be very careful to downplay all this crimes. For those, who still have not heard the bells: Many governments are fed up with the crime in this industry, and the new wave of regulations and restrictions is a result also of this, also of downplaying, and it's only the beginning.

    Leopold
     
  15.  
    Freespins74

    Freespins74 New Member

    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    1
    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2017
    point taken and it was sad about Daphne Caruana
     
    Roulette Zeitung likes this.

Share This Page