Betsson Group Affiliates

[Guard Dog]

Hello AGD community,

Today we present you the real revenue share audit report for Betsson Group Affiliates.

We have a 35% revenue share deal with them. They have 16 brands: Betsafe, Betsafe.dk, Betsafe Baltics, Betsson, Betsson.es, Casino.dk, CasinoEuro, Casino Winner, Mr Smith Casino, NordicBet, NorgesAutomaten, Oranje Casino, RaceBets, StarCasino, Suomiarvat, SverigeAutomaten.

We have chosen to play at Betsson casino and deposited EUR 10, without the welcome bonus (due to country restrictions).

We started playing some slot games:

In the end, we lost all the funds and checked the stats report:

For the deposit of EUR 10, the Net Gaming Revenue (Casino Net Rev) was EUR 6.49. Our earnings are 35% of the NGR amount, which is EUR 2.27, as shown in the stats above.

So to summarize, the Effective Net Gaming Revenue (the amount of money deposited and lost) is 6.49/10 =64.90%.

Finally, multiply the advertised revenue share rate with the Effective NGR to see your real revenue share rate, e.g.:

• 25% = 16.23 %
• 30% = 19.47 %
• 35% = 22.72 %
• 40% = 25.96 %
• 45% = 29.21 %

 

[betizen]

Ouch! Was thinking about including Betsson, theyas have presence in Latam but those numbers are quite discouraging. Thanks for the audit, helpful indeed. It would be great to have the same audit for Vera&John as it is a Betsson competitor in many markets.

 

[Engineer]

Not great results, and this group also has predatory terms and conditions, so be careful of that.

In addition, Betsson is now contacting affiliates and asking them to remove the words "Play" and "Play Now" as a call to action because it "entices players to play" -- those were their exact words.

Um.... yes, yes it does -- that's the whole goddamn point, isn't it?

Meanwhile, their own Mr Smith brand still has "Play Now" buttons on the sliding images at the top of the homepage (images 3 and 4).

 

[Biti]

Insane fees including predatory terms and proven rogue behavior. One to be careful with.

 

[danniee]

I've always avoided Betsson. Wasn't there something about them in the past where one of their AM stole money from affiliates and got caught?

 

[LandofOz]

How do they possibly justify those fees or expect serious affiliates to actually work with them?

 

[AussieDave]

The higher your Revshare %, usually equates to the affiliate's ability to delivering more NDP's. But Betsson Group, clearly shaft affiliates the further up the % scale they climb. If that ain't a kick in the nuts!

In addition, Betsson is now contacting affiliates and asking them to remove the words "Play" and "Play Now" as a call to action because it "entices players to play" -- those were their exact words.

Um.... yes, yes it does -- that's the whole goddamn point, isn't it?

Meanwhile, their own Mr Smith brand still has "Play Now" buttons on the sliding images at the top of the homepage (images 3 and 4).

Scum like this, almost always have one (1) rule for affiliates, and another for themselves. And more than likely this removal-ploy, is just that, a means to wipe accounts out. They're greedy bastards. No rephrase, their crooks!

 

[casinoduende]

Hi, everybody!
I found this thread about Betsson affiliate program, as I got an unpleasant surprise.
It's definitely the truth as discussed above. The final affiliate commission percentage does not exceed 16%. My example: 1 Deposit €600 → Admin fee €210 → Revshare €98
Unfortunately it is a very dishonest and opaque affiliate program. Too bad I didn't read the reviews before so I wouldn't waste my time with them.

 

[Marchyo]

I got already 500+ clicks but there is 0 nrc and 0 ndc. Not happy after all this you guys wrote.

 

[gm2891]

I got already 500+ clicks but there is 0 nrc and 0 ndc. Not happy after all this you guys wrote.

One of the Betsson brands, Betsafe used to be my favourite casino to play at when they were operating in the UK, a top-notch gambling platform for any kind of player IMO. And this is the main reason that I decided to list them, I simply wanted them to be on my site and I didn't care what they pay to affiliates. I had a couple of big players from the UK anyway, but they all gone when Betsson left the UK.


For the last 3 months, I've sent some players to them mainly from the Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Luxemburg even Malta lol.. but there were only a few FTD's and the rest haven't played at all.


Actually 1 out of 10 made a deposit, which is not what's happening with the other casinos that I promote. As in some of them, conversions are roughly 1-3, or in other words, 3 visits 1 deposit.


My mistake that I haven't made a fake casino account with Betsafe to see what marketing methods they use to keep players in the house. With other casinos, I've done it and monitoring it all the time.

I think it's is very important to understand what right and what's wrong with a casino you promote, and I asked them what may be a possible reason that players don't deposit in your casino .etc

They of course replied, almost straight away, as usual, but the answer was out of the subject...

 

[Marchyo]

One of the Betsson brands, Betsafe used to be my favourite casino to play at when they were operating in the UK, a top-notch gambling platform for any kind of player IMO. And this is the main reason that I decided to list them, I simply wanted them to be on my site and I didn't care what they pay to affiliates. I had a couple of big players from the UK anyway, but they all gone when Betsson left the UK.


For the last 3 months, I've sent some players to them mainly from the Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Luxemburg even Malta lol.. but there were only a few FTD's and the rest haven't played at all.


Actually 1 out of 10 made a deposit, which is not what's happening with the other casinos that I promote. As in some of them, conversions are roughly 1-3, or in other words, 3 visits 1 deposit.


My mistake that I haven't made a fake casino account with Betsafe to see what marketing methods they use to keep players in the house. With other casinos, I've done it and monitoring it all the time.

I think it's is very important to understand what right and what's wrong with a casino you promote, and I asked them what may be a possible reason that players don't deposit in your casino .etc

They of course replied, almost straight away, as usual, but the answer was out of the subject...

So maybe they are just hiding new registered customers, because I'm just second month in this affiliate thing.
And every second day there's maintenance with their Betsson group affiliate page, it's showing that they are reloading data, because they got lost somewhere. It's litlle suspicious because of 400 clicks there is 0 nrc and 0 ndc.

 

[Marchyo]

Also there is problems with their direct links, sometimes they just don't open.

 

[gm2891]

So maybe they are just hiding new registered customers, because I'm just second month in this affiliate thing.
And every second day there's maintenance with their Betsson group affiliate page, it's showing that they are reloading data, because they got lost somewhere. It's litlle suspicious because of 400 clicks there is 0 nrc and 0 ndc.

I have different thoughts in my mind too, but we will never find out the truth. We can only assume,
but the assumptions are not facts.

I guess there are close to 1.5 million active players from around the world across all Betsson brands.
Their stats for affiliates become exceptionally bad for the last 3 months.
Seeing constant lags, delays confusing figures makes me think that my player's deposits are simply somewhere missing.

There are no free spins or big free bonuses advertised on my site, so my visitors don't find me on Google through these type of keywords and their intention is different, therefore for my visitors would be no point to go through these long
Betsson registration forms to just log in and wander around the site without making a deposit.

I understand that for some players, Betsson and Betsafe may be too complicated to use as they combine a crazy amount of gambling products on the same site, and may seem confusing for most. But not for everyone ffs...

Another funny thing I just noticed that by clicking through my Betsafe link from the UK, on the registration form they say that UK players can't register here and offer to go to Rizk Casino instead.

The question arises; does a potential player still gets attached to my aff tag or not...
I gotta speak to them to find out...phsss

Regarding your 400 clicks, looks like there is something that's not right!

From this amount of clicks, I guess, at least 1 visitor who is not even a player at all would start wondering and get registered...LOL.

But keep in mind that many clicks and no registrations also maybe something to do with keywords your visitors use when they look for something and land on your page. Your site title plays a big role, in this case. If it looks very attractive in SERP but you kinda don't provide on your page what your title and description promises, you will often have clicks but no registrations.

I've seen on the GPWA forum some boys saying they only have a couple of registrations from 100 clicks. There is obviously something wrong with the page metadata, on-site content and casinos they promote.

 

[Marchyo]

I have different thoughts in my mind too, but we will never find out the truth. We can only assume,
but the assumptions are not facts.

I guess there are close to 1.5 million active players from around the world across all Betsson brands.
Their stats for affiliates become exceptionally bad for the last 3 months.
Seeing constant lags, delays confusing figures makes me think that my player's deposits are simply somewhere missing.

There are no free spins or big free bonuses advertised on my site, so my visitors don't find me on Google through these type of keywords and their intention is different, therefore for my visitors would be no point to go through these long
Betsson registration forms to just log in and wander around the site without making a deposit.

I understand that for some players, Betsson and Betsafe may be too complicated to use as they combine a crazy amount of gambling products on the same site, and may seem confusing for most. But not for everyone ffs...

Another funny thing I just noticed that by clicking through my Betsafe link from the UK, on the registration form they say that UK players can't register here and offer to go to Rizk Casino instead.

The question arises; does a potential player still gets attached to my aff tag or not...
I gotta speak to them to find out...phsss

Regarding your 400 clicks, looks like there is something that's not right!

From this amount of clicks, I guess, at least 1 visitor who is not even a player at all would start wondering and get registered...LOL.

But keep in mind that many clicks and no registrations also maybe something to do with keywords your visitors use when they look for something and land on your page. Your site title plays a big role, in this case. If it looks very attractive in SERP but you kinda don't provide on your page what your title and description promises, you will often have clicks but no registrations.

I've seen on the GPWA forum some boys saying they only have a couple of registrations from 100 clicks. There is obviously something wrong with the page metadata, on-site content and casinos they promote.

Now really I'm not sure if they are ripping me off.

 

[gm2891]

Now really I'm not sure if they are ripping me off.

Leve the casino up for another month and see what happens then. If the result is the same, replace them with a different casino.
With the right approach, this amount of clicks can easily make you good money.

I don't think Betsson rips anyone off intentionally, their stats are a joke and that's what makes everyone think that some things go missing. In any other case, they are very responsive to emails and sound professional, unlike some others (i won't name) that send me emojis and smileys LOL

 

[Marchyo]

Leve the casino up for another month and see what happens then. If the result is the same, replace them with a different casino.
With the right approach, this amount of clicks can easily make you good money.

I don't think Betsson rips anyone off intentionally, their stats are a joke and that's what makes everyone think that some things go missing. In any other case, they are very responsive to emails and sound professional, unlike some others (i won't name) that send me emojis and smileys LOL

just now emailed them about this situation. i already send . and im now trying to get in contact with lvbet affiliates , read good reviews here , will try coorporate with them )

 

[gm2891]

just now emailed them about this situation. i already send . and im now trying to get in contact with lvbet affiliates , read good reviews here , will try coorporate with them )

Good luck with that! But I have a feeling that LVBet Casino is shit in terms of conventions, and players won't come back after the 1st deposit or at least will not be playing there for long, especially small ones that deposit 20 and cashout if win 40.
There is a 5 EUR fee for 2nd, 3rd and so on withdrawals in the same week, which isn't player-friendly at all.

 

[Marchyo]

Good luck with that! But I have a feeling that LVBet Casino is shit in terms of conventions, and players won't come back after the 1st deposit or at least will not be playing there for long, especially small ones that deposit 20 and cashout if win 40.
There is a 5 EUR fee for 2nd, 3rd and so on withdrawals in the same week, which isn't player-friendly at all.

oough okey , thats how they can pay 50% to affiliates. as i read here in other threads people are having good results.
btw betsons and Betsafes links dont open today, they just dont respond.

 

[gm2891]

oough okey , thats how they can pay 50% to affiliates. as i read here in other threads people are having good results.
btw betsons and Betsafes links dont open today, they just dont respond.

My ones work and I have new regs, but again no deps
Maybe it's something to do with your browser settings that links don't work?

Yeah, you can make a few $ with LVbet if you already have a ton of traffic and will be able to keep sending them new players in the following months or have players that constantly lose a lot...

 

[Marchyo]

My ones work and I have new regs, but again no deps
Maybe it's something to do with your browser settings that links don't work?

Yeah, you can make a few $ with LVbet if you already have a ton of traffic and will be able to keep sending them new players in the following months or have players that constantly lose a lot...

I'm really new in this thing. Second month. And now after I understand that I don't understand nothing. Is there any proof that casinos show fake info to affiliates?