Battle of Slots - calculations and transparency

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    estranged

    estranged New Member

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    Hi,

    Could you please elaborate on how battle of slots are operated and how any revenue, profit, expenses, marketing, and promotions related to this business model affects an affialte with customers in their revenue share plan?

    I think this topic needs more discussion as this is not operated in the traditional casino format and more of a poker room tournament and song format being played.

    I am sure you have invested a lot for it to be where it is now, but who are funding these promotions for example free tickets awarded, covering for your guaranteed prize pool, money invested in technology, operating expenses etc...

    I feel like a lot of affiliate earning are being directly compromised for your vision of growing this product without even knowing and a lot of it has to do with why you have been trying to hide the details of it. This basically started as you are trying to hide the stats from affiliates.

    I also remembered that when it first began I was awarded like crazy for every battle I enter I would receive a 5 euro free entry ticket to the next event.

    This comes directly out of our profit with nothing to gain for.

    Since you guys are acting as an operator in this scenario revenue gained by this model should not be charged with any fees from operators but how are we so sure if nothing is transparent during this period?

    -> Could you please give us an example of an affiliate earning if he has just one customer and the customer deposits and play only on your battle of slots product.

    -> Are we profiting on casino earnings of tournament fees that players participate and how do we know?

    -> Are these even calculated into our earnings or are day just like your live casino product where we do not receive any commission on player loses.

    -> If we are not making anything on this and this god for your live casino product as well why should we pay for bank fees and operating expenses for funds deposited and used on these products and how do we know and how are you able to allow us to be comfortable not thinking we are paying for something that does nothing to our advantage at all?

    Also battle of slots alone can be split into 3 categories the multiplayer field battles, sit and go battles, and free roll mutiplayer field and sit and go battles.

    In terms or profit and loss, only your sit and go format would be profitable whenever a customer participates. The free roll battles that you run all day 24/7 plus the expenses you spend on growing this product is hard to go by without thinking where these money comes from as it's hard not to recognize the ridiculously frequent and amount of free tickets awarded gets by without any thought of how fair it is for affiliates.
     
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    AussieDave

    AussieDave 17 years & still going!

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    I'm bumping this...12 working days, a reminder sent, but still no reply.

    Please, lets have no comment from the peanut gallery.

    These are questions only the VS rep can, and should answer.
     
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    This is getting so ridiculous. I want a job being their casino rep too, don't need to do much besides being real good at avoiding questions in regard to their integrety!

    Admin.... wouldn't it be appropriate to start considering them on the rogue list? TYhese are serious questions that needs to be answered requestedby their business partners and yet they are either hiding because they have no answer to covcer up what has been done or they simply just don't care about their reputation leaving questions like these unanswered won't help and they know it too.
     
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    I don't want their job. You will earn just a fraction of what you're making as affiliate.

    But for sure it's more relaxed indeed, getting paid to chat at GPWA-forum about burgers, politics and welcome threads. They're simply not a serious affiliate program. They simply put their marketing budget in retention instead of an affiliate program. They should be clear about that, but they aren't. They pay a few guys to act like they're a serious affiliate programs.

    This is thread #35885 about Videoslots affiliate program. Time you make up the bill. I don't understand why people keep on working with this kind of programs. A bit naïve to think that you can change the way they're in the game completely. You can't.
     
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    Ali Atam

    Ali Atam Affiliate Program Representative

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    Hi,

    Battle of Slots is not part of the affiliate commission.

    For your information, we make a loss every month on this product but it really extends the life time of the customers and it is one of the key reasons why we have a longer retention compared to other brands.

    Also, as we have now released the deposit and withdrawal report together with the breakdown report that was released earlier, we are at a complete transparency for our affiliates where exact costs can be found in your accounts.

    Regards,
     
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    What do you mean when you say that it is not a part of the affiliate commission? Is that stated somewhere in your T&C? If no, why not?
     
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    In IgamingBusiness there's an interview with CEO Alexander Stevendahl. He states that the effect of Battle of Slots on average spend, LTV, etc isn't measured.
     
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    Ali Atam

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    Yes it is stated in our T&C's. 4.3 Calculation and Payment.

    Regards,
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    Why have you chosen not to include Battle of Slots in the affiliate plan?
     
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