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    Lloyd Apter

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    Hello,

    I want to formally apologize for mentioning earlier that JujiClick is associated with the controversial black hat SEO site Verified Casinos.

    JujiClick is not associated with Verified Casinos.

    I can personally attest that JujiClick is a legit and professional company and I apologize for any confusion.

    Regards,

    Lloyd
     
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    AussieDave

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    So what is the hackers name, online nick (GPWA membership nick) and anyone else is this hacker associated to or with?
     
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    Vladi

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    Come no Lloyd I know you're trying to cover your ass here. But if that company approached you and asked if you wanted to work with the crims then quite obviously they are associated in some way and at the very least work together. That is if they aren't one and the same. Judging by the meaningless waffle on their website that says a lot without really saying anything at all, they look very much to me like an agency that dabbles in the dark side, shall we say.
     
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    Vladi

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    Ok so jujiclick is co-founded by Lani Moxham and Jodi Nafte, as detailed publicly on their linkedin profiles. They work/worked? with Affactive who are just about as rogue as they come, and formerly for Rome Casino scammer Josh C, who definitely is.

    Why am I not surprised?

    Anyway we now know that these people know who the hacker is.
     
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    (not including Lloyd - because he came from South Africa) but...more crooked, lying, cheating Israelis :eek: No wonder Clara (affactive) was being evasive (errr bullsh#ting)!
     
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    Lloyd Apter

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    Please keep focus here. The hacker is verifiedcasinos.com - I wrongly implicated JujiClick. I know the people personally there and they are good people and not connected with verifiedcasinos.com. Also, please don't generalize, I know honest and dishonest people from many countries around the world.

    I understand that affiliates are being hacked by sites like this. Do you know how many other big hackers there are like this? Who owns them? How can you get to them? That's what is of interest here.
     
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    Vladi

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    I think it is more correct to state that it isn't affiliates getting hacked by these criminals, it is thousands of webmasters and their sites that have absolutely nothing to do with online gambling or affiliate marketing. This has been going on now for over 6 months and no-one who knows who these people are is willing to step forward and name names or pass them on to authorities. That disgusts me.
     
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    Lloyd Apter

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    I will do what I can to find out who are the hackers. I agree, taking from others is theft.
     
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    Albeit sadly that's true... However if you take a stroll around the forum here, you'll see... programs such as AffEurope, Affactive, EuroPartners etc etc etc, all based in Tel Aviv and every-single-one has been busted lying, cheating and stealing from their affiliate partners.

    It's not Antisemitism IF it's based on a valid reason.

    Given that more and more affiliates seem to be getting shafted by programs based in Tel Aviv these days, then my opinion IS just as valid as calling the hacker a "criminal" because through factual action, that's exactly what he/she/they are, criminal(s).

    Lets not forget the accusations leveled at Brightshare on running a double database, dropping bTags and the lies they told about not being connected to AllSlotsUSA, when in fact, they were. The AllSlotsUSA affiliate program was being run from the Spiral/Brightshare offices in Tel Aviv.

    I've known you Lloyd for 11+ years and over this time you've always been honest and treated affiliates well. I'm sorry if my opinions based on factual information upset you. But I'm merely reiterating what most affiliates feel about working with programs based in Tel Aviv.

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    Changed - Given that more and more affiliates seem to be getting shafted by programs based in Tel Aviv these days, then my opinion IS just as valid as calling this hacker a criminal!

    Added the reference to Brightshare.

    Added Lloyd reference.
     
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    Lloyd Apter

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    Hi Dave,

    Yeah, we have know each other for like you say 11+ years and I'm not offended mate. We are both a bit off the wall anyways.

    Just want to try bring the discussion to focus and that is towards helping find and bring down the hackers that are stealing from other affiliates.

    Everything else is stuff that is opinion/generalization/etc rather than fact, and I don't think it's good for anyone to go that way.

    So, please mate, I promised I will help find these hackers, let's leave all the other unrelated stuff out of it, please :)

    Cheers mate,

    Lloyd
     
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    Someone (some company) must have contacted yourself or AC in relation to verifiedcasinos.com, otherwise you'd wouldn't have posted, asking, "what sort of BH is this?". Surely you guys keep emails, comms records and even log IP addresses.
     
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    Lloyd Apter

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    It's not that simple and I'm not going to be forced into an online witch hunter either. I will get to the bottom of this just give me some time please. Cheers
     
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    Vladi

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    Again, forget about "stealing from other affiliates". I believe if you want people outside this community to take this problem seriously then framing the problem as "a thief stealing from people who advertise casinos" isn't going to win you much sympathy, as I'm sure we all know that casinos are treated with suspicion by many people.

    A case in point- someone tried to report his 7 or 8 months ago and was ridiculed in the Google forums:
    https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/webmasters/30_UC3y9zbQ

    This whole thing is organised crime on an international scale and hacking into thousands of websites for whatever reason is taken very seriously by authorities. We're talking jail time if and when the people responsible are caught. Companies such as jujiclick should think very carefully about what that may mean for them if they continue to profit from this enterprise, whether they are intermediaries or not.
     
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    Lloyd Apter

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    Nothing to add here, thanks for the thoughts and concerns.
     
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    Lloyd, Any progress on finding out who the hacker is?
    Got to agree, that jujiclick site looks like nothing more than a cover site.
     
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    Lloyd Apter

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    Hi Slotplayer, no news sorry

    As you know these hackers know how to hide themselves and because I don't work with them I have no way of knowing who they are. I'm hoping I'll get lucky.
     
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    eventually we'll find out.
     
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    Lloyd Apter

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    yeah, i think so too.
     

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