All 400 Affiliates Brands redirecting to RedFlush Casino

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    GFPC

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    Does anyone else know about this. I just checked

    This is Vegas, Cocoa Casino, Paradise 8 and Davincis Gold.

    All of them except Davincis Gold are redirecting.

    Should not of the affiliates be warned of this?

    Or do people already know about this.

    For me clicking on my affiliate links for this is vegas go here - Exclusive Canadian Promotion: Sign-Up Now and get a 150% Match Bonus PLUS 50 FREE Spins on The Lord of the Rings%

    Same as the others......

    I am not an affiliate of RedReturns!! What happens now?
     
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    celena

    celena Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    For my part, I am redirected to casinos than 400 affiliates.
     
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    michael26a

    michael26a Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    I just checked all of my 400affiliates casinos (which are getting removed slowly from my sites), and none of them are redirecting to Redflush casino.
     
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    CaseyM

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    GFPC

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    vd752

    vd752 Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    they don't accept Canadians, so they redired Canadian traffic to Red Flush :(
     
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    Guard Dog

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    Casino Coins casinos are a good choice, IMO. Affiliate Edge used to be as well, but I don't know much of their conversions at the moment since I moved away from them sometime back when conversions dropped off for me.

    So - they are redirecting for Canadians only? And, when did they mention to us that they were ciphoning off our traffic whenever they feel like it???? :mad:
     
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    inspiration

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    Redreturns made a special page for them

    xxhttp://www.redflushcasino.eu/promotions/canadian-exclusive/cocoa-casino/

    Thanks redreturns you seem to fuck up big time lately !!
     
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    Guard Dog

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    I'm not sure what I think of this... on the one hand, Red Returns is just doing business. On the other hand, they likely knew that Cocoa/400 was screwing over their affiliates and had an obligation to tell us about it.

    ugh... I think it will get much worse before it's over.:eek:
     
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    vd752

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    Just removed them... I use geo targeting and this redirect doesn't affect me, but will remove all programs that play games with the traffic...
     
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    GFPC

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    So i guess i found this by chance. The only site in the 400 group that does not redirect is Davincis from what i can tell. I will test it some more.

    But for sure this is complete trash. They should of alerted us by saying we longer accept CAD traffic. This would allow us to at least give our readers proper information.

    Not only that - but if they did this we could of added a link - which would be used for CAD players and send them where we want to.

    Forcing our traffic to another bullshit outfit is not the answer.

    For all intense purposes Red Returns is just screwing affiliates as well. IN other cases where redirected traffic was happening the casinos at least informed affiliates and allowed us to make commissions on them.

    This thing with these two groups is total BS - both are patting each other on the back helping each other at the cost of affiliates.

    This is wrong.

    I call for both to be considered Predatory if not Rogue in my books. This was a sneaky trick against affiliates.

    As soon as I have the time to do it -- I am listing both these groups on my,

    Bewinners Predatory Affiliate Program - Bwin - Belosers.com site - any program from now on who cheats affiliates will be considered a BELOSER to us.

    That belosers site will get lots of brands on there soon enough.
     
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    Guard Dog

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    I do agree with some of that GPFC. I am thinking of building some type of area at AGD for this type of shit. While there terms aren't predatory, their actions are. We need to define that somehow. Possibly a cross-promotional rogue or something.

    As far as DVG... That casino is the only one in the 400Group not owned by the same people. Maybe that is why the change isn't there. Problem is.... DVG was the only one I DIDN'T trust before this.
     
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    TheGamblingGuru

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    LMAO! Just another typical day in this crooked azz business..eh :rolleyes:

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    GFPC

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    Oh i see... I didn't know that. That does make sense though. The fact that only three of them are redirecting.

    Actually I agree with you - what a great idea! A section maybe called

    "Cross Promoting Predatory Programs" - something like that.

    This cross promotion thing is something that i feel we are going to have to understand will only continue more. Many brands are merging together and selling each others databases as well...

    Essentially this seems to be a reoccurring issue that will simply not go away and we are going to be faced with this again and again.

    You may be right to add it in its own field.

    Lets face it - if Rewards Affiliates is doing this with 22 casinos - and other brands are doing it - the ball has been set in motion for all to do it.

    It is going to get worse. What i do not like is the SNEAKY way they did this.

    Overnight! Without a peep!

    At least Rewards had the balls to come out and say we are doing it.

    It looks like many affiliates will have lots of work to do! :)
     
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    GFPC

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    Just wanted to add proof here with screen shots in case they come back and make some crazy excuse of errors. These screen shots show the intent. Also will be published on the belosers site...

    They graduate to be considered along the same lines of Bewinners.
    Time to list all the belosers on the site who cheat/steal/scam.

    Here are the screen shots for any Canadians who click on my affiliate links.
     

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    GFPC

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    Here is something even nicer!! Affiliate links! It would seem 400affiliates are now affiliates working against us.

    When you click the download links from the redirect you have btags.

    This is Vegas affiliate link

    http://www.redflushcasino.eu/play-n...lush.exe&btag1=Aff_0429_893_50_Free_TIV&ul=en

    btag1=Aff_0429_893_50_Free_TIV&ul=en

    Paradise8 Affiliate link

    http://www.redflushcasino.eu/play-n...sh.exe&btag1=Aff_0429_893_50_Free_Para8&ul=en

    btag1=Aff_0429_893_50_Free_Para8&ul=en

    Cocoa Casino Affiliate link

    http://www.redflushcasino.eu/play-n...h.exe& btag1=Aff_0429_893_50_Free_Cocoa&ul=en

    btag1=Aff_0429_893_50_Free_Cocoa&ul=en

    So what we have now it appears from eyeballing things is 400affiliates are using Affiliate traffic to make commissions from Red Returns with their casino redflush on a microgaming platform.

    This is something Planet 23 did a long time ago on a full scale.

    So how does everyone feel sending their Canadian players to 400 and allowing them to make rev of your players and commissions.

    And better yet how do people feel about Red Returns allowing this to happen - nice of them isn't it.
     
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    The 400 Group will be Rogue on Monday. Sorry, Easter calls today or it would be completed immediately.
     
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    inspiration

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    This is not a "simple" redirect as redreturns has the logo and special offer given to the 400 affiliates.

    I think redreturns is slowly becoming a rogue outfit too, watch out!

    400affiliates and Redreturns are friends


    If anyone has a code for the htaccess to redirect canadian traffic to another url just PM me, thanks !!
     
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    TheGamblingGuru

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    Maybe Jason saw this coming and sold out eh?

    I'm convinced now that all of these Rival Casinos are no more than affiliates with a few dollars that bought the license from Rival to promote their casinos, anyone's welcome to prove me wrong though. That includes the non-white labels too!

    Anyway, why waste your time and words on this over at the GPWA, you guys really think Corfman will give a shit as long as the programs keep paying him sponsorship money...really? :rolleyes:

    I don't, he has proven that many many times before.

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    GFPC

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    I agree i really think Red Returns plays a significant role in this.

    By allowing this "Conflict of Interest" to happen they are in a sense also stealing affiliate revenue and sharing it with 400Affiliates.

    What they have done is CUT out the affiliate and pay 400Affiliates knowing that affiliates will lose revenue.

    It was done certainly with intent and knowing affiliates would lose out.

    It will be interesting to see if they claim Affiliates will get commission from this now that i brought up this issue.

    Dont be to surprised if they claim they were going to email affiliates and those btags are affiliate tags for players LOL..

    So as a backup to prove this is not the case I have cleared my cache and i have done a search for This is Vegas on google.

    All sites who promote these brands - all affiliate links are the same. Same BTAG on all sites across the board.

    All Canadian traffic coming to these three casinos - you are sending them your commissions of which Red Returns is paying them to do so.

    Both are Rogue in my opinion.

    Anyone in Canada please check any site promoting these three Casinos and list the btag as backup.
     

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