Affactive shaving practice and arrogant managers

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    Erik

    Erik Member

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    Hello guys and girls,

    I recently started working with Affactive and immediately encountered problems with my stats and players.
    I started promoting them last month and send out about 5k maillers to my dutch clients and long time subscribers of my newsletters.
    A few of those clients i know personally because we hold poker and bingo nights in a clubhouse of mine.
    Now last month i brought at least 23 new players of wich 23 downloads and 8 new depositors.
    In the backend of Affactive my balance up to now ( 15-5-2014 ) was 8 depositing players.
    Now suddenly Affactive removed 7 players and marked them as declined.
    They left only 2 ftd's for last month and for this month 1 also .
    This month i had 2 new depositors but they removed 1 of them again and left 1 ftd.

    Sinds i confronted the affiliate manager( Erici.affactive )about this ,he suddenly seem to be offline in skype ( but hes not,so he blocked me !!)
    I removed them directly from my sites and of course stopt mailing the players.
    Now i talked with live support and they said "" Erici left to a beter place!! ""
    ( the exact words of live support !)
    A wile later i got the skype contact of a new affiliate manager called Tim O 'reilly (timor.affactive) and here is where it gets even more bizar!!
    This Tim told me the following.
    "" your taking too much of my time and of erici his time.
    from now on you get 45 % of the net gaming,the 8 players of last month will be checked and if its oaky you will get CPA from them ,if not you wont get anything from them.
    Up til today i have not reciefed any dime of them and they closed my affiliate account !

    links to the topics about this are here

    http://www.affiliateguarddog.com/community/threads/april-payments.7512/

    http://www.affiliateguarddog.com/co...e-bs-answers-time-for-action.7550/#post-48977
     
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    clara.affactive

    clara.affactive Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Erik

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    wow you can read extrem fasto_O
     
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    tryme1

    tryme1 Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    In all honesty, you don't come across very well in that chat, Erik. Also, in relation to whether they are shaving or not - at no point did Tim say you had 14 depositors rather than the 8 you see in the backend.

    He did say '14 deposits' which isn't the same. Mind you, you are both Skyping in your second (or even third) language, so I can see where the confusion arises.
     
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    Erik

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    Maybe i don't come across very well because i was very very angry on how it went down with the first affiliate manager Erici and the lies they told.

    About that 14 depositors you are right,that was my bad
     
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    AussieDave

    AussieDave 17 years & still going!

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    Erik, posting a private Skype chat probably hasn't done you any favours with Affactive, especially when your accusing them of shaving players, with no supporting evidence (proof). In addition, as tryme1 explained, those chats are damn hard to read or understand because both Tim and yourself are speaking in jumbled up English.

    Personally, I think the best solution for all (Affactive & Erik) is... If this affiliate is owed money, then pay what is owed to his Neteller account. Then assign an affiliate manager who speaks his native language.
     
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    Erik

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    Before i posted this Erici had me blocked on skype for over a week ! i did not know that and neither i knew the reason of why he blocked me.
    Maybe because i asked about the investigation of the stats and players.
    When i asked live support on the Affactive website if Erici could contact me ,then they answered.
    Erici is working at a beter place now !
    After that i got the new manager Tim.
    i placed the chat here so you can see that im not lying or twisting words.
    i know my english isn't that great and especialy when im pissed off i writte to fast or dont take the time to correct it,but stil the matter of the fact is that i had 8 new depositors that deposit ,14 deposits and never got a cent of affactive .
    in the backend you see i got paid ,but i never got anyting.
    i placed a screenshot here http://www.affiliateguarddog.com/community/threads/april-payments.7512/#post-48763

    you said that i dont have any proof, bet4you.
    but i have and i wil get more of it.
    My plan now is to start mailing to the same players email list again and reward them with a 50 buks ( spent how you want cash bonus) if they provide me with details of their deposits and so on and so on,and maybe ask them to make a small personal review of WinPalace.
    I hate people that lie and steel and then when you ask them a legit question on skype they say ,dont waste my time:mad:
     
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    Vladi

    Vladi Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Classy.

    Confirmation that despite repeated denials and an avalanche of never ending spam for their brands, Affactive loves affiliates to spam.
     
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    Erik

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    it looks like Affactive and the steeling and shaving is allowed.
    have not yet heard anyting from the commision and affactive is playing dead!
    Thank you al for your support !
    Wonder when they steel of you guys what happens then? wil it get the atention that it deserves?
    Ohh well we wil see in a few months when they shaved others !
    Today i wil start posting myself about affactive and their shady casinos and owners.
    Roman Spitsikov (a fake name that owns the groups
     
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    clara.affactive

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    This issue is already closed in all the other threads you created. You got our answer and is final.

    I requested this already on previous posts, please stop spamming.
     
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    Erik

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    Stop spamming ?
    First off al this board section is called '' Affiliate and program issues "
    Clara, Please provide me with PROOF that I am/my Players are FRAUD. Thats it! When you do that i will not insist on the matter. PLEASE PROVIDE PROOF!
    You can choose to email me if you do not want to disclose such information on forums !
    Looking forward for your email.
    Until that does not come, you make me believe that something is totally smelly about your business! Plane and simple
    Shalom and best regards,
    Erik
     
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    clara.affactive

    clara.affactive Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Hi,


    this issue was already discussed on your previous threads and already closed.

    Best regards,
     
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    clara.affactive

    clara.affactive Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Hi Erik,


    you just keep disqualifying yourself in front of all the community.

    Your lack of professionalism is patent and I believe there's not much to add to this. Insulting and threatening affiliate managers wont get you anywhere, but closer to a ban.
     
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    Erik

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    Your professionalism is close to 0 zero dear Clara!
    All Affiliates and those interested will see who you are.
    You are always avoiding answering the question !
    You do understand that i ask for what is my right to know, correct?
    I want proof....send me the proof and you shall be left alone.
    Stop all this nonsense talk and email me the proof.
    How you came up to the conclusion that i am a fraud and send me shots and parterres etc.
    Please do so - in this way you will do yourself a favor and Affiliates will see how 'correct' and 'professional' you are.
    Until then everyone can judge by themselves. You are the fraud in this story
     
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    clara.affactive

    clara.affactive Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    Hi Erik,

    you sent incentivized traffic which by our Terms and Conditions is unsuitable for a CPA deal, more posts, insulting, threatening, coming to visit us in our booth at the Amsterdam wont change the fact that you violated our terms and conditions and you voided your own commissions...

    I understand you are not an experienced affiliate because of the way you work, but this is not a good practice, is not accepted by Affactive or any other company.

    Now please, save both of us some time and stop spamming. I answered all your posts with the same reply and you wont receive any other answer from us: YOUR COMMISSIONS ARE VOIDED due to the fact that you sent incentivized traffic.

    So if you want me to repeat again and again, no problem.
     
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    Redbush54

    Redbush54 Affiliate Guard Dog Member

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    After your unprofessional post here, I wouldn't pay you a dime nor allow you to have an acct. I ask Guard Dog to close this thread and have a discussion with you regarding your language.
     
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    bonustreak

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    Erik you have been sent a warning if your post continue to be rude and your use of inappropriate behavior continues I am sure a banning will come next. This thread is being closed you need to take your issue up in private with Affective...
     
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    Guard Dog

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    I have sent Erik a warning as well and, yes, this thread is closed! I'm not closing more, Erik. TAKE THIS OFFLINE.
     
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