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    Default Wingate Affiliates bad - cheting Practice

    Im wonna warning other person to work with this company( Wingate Affiliate - Europalace) Im get cpa deal to 20 testing person and bring them traffic - first month all was good - next month im get him one player - and have in my statistic 150$ cpa ernings but in half month they send me emials - they decided to change my comission to ravenue and - they change me my ernings 150 $ to " -96"$ ravenue. So be cerful - if they give you cpa commision and you bring them few players they can send you emials abaut 20 -25th when month will be finished with informations they decided to change comitte and all your cpa ernings - generated in this month will be change to ravenue . Of corse if they wont they can change comitte cpa to ravenue but this shoud be done for next month no in half month when im alredy generated traffic . Im see they are in predatory group so this practice is probably normal in this place.... ( sorry for my poor english)

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    This group were "well dodgy" when I first looked at working with them about 2 years ago. Also, if I recall correctly, they were related to a rogue RTG casino.
    Then I found out they had NCO - so it was definitely "no thanks - goodnight!"

    However, I thought I'd head recently that they had been taken over by a reputable operator... maybe Fortune Lounge?

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    Also keep in mind that *most* affiliate programs have clauses in their terms to move you from CPA to RevShare anytime they want. When doing CPA, make your own deal... do not abide by the T&C's if you want to keep your CPA agreement safe from this.

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    im know any casino can change deal any moment they wont but example if you get cpa deal for 10 testing person and starts work from 1st January and when you have 2 depositors in this month - you see in your panel ernings example 150 x 2 ( 300$) and sudenly abaut 20 th january casino send you emials we decided change your comission and alll your ernings from this month change to "- 30$" thats is good with terms and conditions? in most affilate programs? im think they can change any moments but changes shoud be done after january finished - get paymets for this month after checked all is clear of corse. and deal ravenue shoud starts from february. If im say wrong then sorry but im thinks thats is normal

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    Quote Originally Posted by FAZIII1 View Post
    im know any casino can change deal any moment they wont but example if you get cpa deal for 10 testing person and starts work from 1st January and when you have 2 depositors in this month - you see in your panel ernings example 150 x 2 ( 300$) and sudenly abaut 20 th january casino send you emials we decided change your comission and alll your ernings from this month change to "- 30$" thats is good with terms and conditions? in most affilate programs? im think they can change any moments but changes shoud be done after january finished - get paymets for this month after checked all is clear of corse. and deal ravenue shoud starts from february. If im say wrong then sorry but im thinks thats is normal
    You are correct. When I see the term that allows change from CPA to Revshare (not the other way around) it is always AFTER the months end and CPA payment has been made.

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    and, by the way, it is a form of protection for the affiliate company against CPA abuse which is rampant in this industry. They move the affiliate to revshare to protect themselves from this abuse.

    The problem is... they can abuse the method

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    So in Wingate affiliates in Europalace my players probably have good sesion and do nice withdrawal and they dont wont pay for this person twice - player and me and dont waiting to finish month and - they change my deeal immediately 150 $ my ernings to - 90 $ and this is wrong . but im still fish in this affiliate world and still learn somtimes can erns somtimes lose thanks for answers.

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    Send an email to me with all the description and any stats printouts you have. Send it to the Wingate Affiliate Manager as well. I will try to help find out what the problem is. That's all i can do.

    CPA is tough... there is so much abuse that it's difficult to even mediate when there is a problem I will try, if necessary though.

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